8800GT goes to 11 hours on ATI tool until error WITHOUT overclock...

GeneralOreo

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The card is factory overclcoked, but not by much. 625/900/1566. It shouldn't matter, as even the highest factory overclocked should work like regular ones.

I had RTHDRIBL running at the same time as ATI tool, it reached 14.5 hours and was running for 3.5 w/o errors when I turned it off so that's only 11 hours of stability.

Is this normal? I ran Prime95 for more than 12 hours on an overclocked Q6600 w/o a problem. I want to start playing games on this card without worrying.
 

TroubleM

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Are you using any kind of Fan Control? Because if you're not, you might fry your card eventually.
 

ArchAngel777

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Wow... Are games so important that a single crash would cause ruin to your life? I'd drop this silly 12-24 hour testing crap for graphics card and lets your games determine if you are stable or not... As others have said, you could burn out your card, especially if the fan isn't spinning up. Just had a friend who lost his card because he was doing silly stuff like that... Then I told him about the fan issue and it was too late. The card started artifacting everywhere, even in 2D. I suppose he could have just received a bad card but.... Anyway, his was a gigabyte. It looks like you purchased the BFG. Same reference card, though.
 

GeneralOreo

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Uh, I don't know about the 8800GT 'fan bug' mentioned here...

And I'm using a DuOrb on the card.

Finally, no this isn't a joke thread. I'm new to PC gaming so I could be missing something here but from little I read overnight stress testing was recommended for determining the overclock stability.

I'm not sure why it would hurt the card, I don't plan to have 11 hour gaming sessions (thought I'll be getting into World of Warcraft soon so who knows... ) but I've heard about people leaving their processors doing work for hours, why is a GPU different?

Out of curiosity I'm going to do underclock it to reference and do this again. After that I'm done though and I'm not interested in overclocking after seeing how little of a performance boost it gives.
 

yacoub

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you're new to PC gaming but you built a rig and put a DuOrb on your GPU? that's pretty good work! =)
 

customcoms

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My card does the same thing (fails ATITool artifact scanner after several hours) basically with fan set at 74% and temperatures never breaking 75 under ATITool. In essence, I don't trust ATITool on these cards, since my temperatures are more than reasonable and it still fails. You are just giving me even more reason to doubt ATITool, since you are at lower clocks with significantly improved cooling and still failing in <12 hours. Also, overclocking the shaders and memory on these cards can significantly boost performance, up to the point of exceeding 8800Ultra performance levels. And to be quite open, why would you buy significant aftermarket cooling for a card and NOT overclock it? The noise levels are going to be the same either way (significantly more quite than stock cooling), so I'd be ramping up the clock speeds and not worrying about failing some stress test that pushes your card harder than Crysis.
 

GeneralOreo

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Originally posted by: yacoub
you're new to PC gaming but you built a rig and put a DuOrb on your GPU? that's pretty good work! =)

Well I don't know if 'new' was the right world, heh. I did build a PC two years ago and played a lot of Battlefield 2 but I barely had any idea what I was doing, I almost got a motherboard with a different socket than the CPU I wanted and bought an AGP video card for a PCI-E slot... among many other mistakes/problems. I don't think I did it for games, I don't remember really, I think I had this virus or something on my old gateway and I lost the restore CD and just wanted a new PC so I built one instead of purchasing a complete model.

Since then I haven't looked up any news or info on PC gaming and was just content playing the hell out of BF2 and got bored then quit. It's only now that I did the real research before building a PC, and didn't make any mistakes with this and did research on overclocking and such. And I'll definitely play more than 1 game, I have like a dozen games on my list to try.

And it's not really hard just following guides/manuals and put things together really.

I think this long post was a product of my OCD-based perceived guilt of the word 'new' that led your post which I thought made my inaccurate statement more like a lie or something. Yeah, I need help, lol.
 

bfdd

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You don't need to stress test your fuckin video card for hours on end. I usually run 30 minutes to make sure a overclock is stable. No errors in 30 minutes woot good! CPU is different, I'm not constantly stressing my video card and not every game I play puts constant 100% stress on my video card so no worries.
 

GeneralOreo

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30 minutes?

This is what I get for sticking to synthetic benchmarks/stress applications and not playing games. I wanted to get the overclocking over with before playing. Anyway, after doing some tests it turned out I didn't really get that much of a performance jump on my system so I'm thinking it's not worth the hassle.

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777Anyway, his was a gigabyte. It looks like you purchased the BFG. Same reference card, though.

Yeah it's a BFG.
 

Syntax Error

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A 24 hour stress test would be better suited to a CPU overclock than a video card...as long as the temps are within acceptable levels and the games run stably, then you're good.
 

Pacfanweb

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11 hours?

Reminds me of a buddy who bought a bunch of parts and had me assemble the comp for him and get it all configured. This was back in the original UT days. Got it running, all the latest tweaks, patches, etc. at the time. He took it home.
Asked him the next week at work if it did okay. He gave me that "meh" look and said "It was okay, but there's a problem with it. It locked up after I played UT for 18 hours straight". I just laughed and told him that was the "get off your ass and get a life" feature of UT.
 

GeneralOreo

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I've had it with testing.

I was planning to see how long ati tool + rthdribl would go until the former gives out an error. Then I thought I should do the same when I get a new card. And I should lower back my CPU overclock and test the world in conflict in-game benchmark, then do the same for GPU and then up them again and test and test and test. These easy tools are an OCD-cursed gamer's worst nightmare. I have to know what all the combinations give out Or had, I don't care anymore. It still feels uneasy but not as bad as it would be if I kept testing and testing. Dammit I want to play games. I'M OFFICIALLY FREE NOW.

Edit: you know I really want to see what difference overclocking makes one more time with the world in conflict in-game benchmark, I'll do that with the max overclocks I'm comfortable with then I'm really done heh.
 

taltamir

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well... if you want 100% stability you should be running at the speed nvidia told you to... those factory oced cards should not crash under realistic gaming conditions... 11 hours at max usage isn't it... either underclock it, or accept that in a year of gaming you would probably crash once or twice due to the factory OC... And even then it wouldn't be a hard crash anymore... new drivers from both AMD and nVidia will restart the video card only if it crashes, and rehook with most new games (meannig the game will continue after it restarts).
 

GeneralOreo

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^So would it be more stable to buy a card with reference clocks next time or is it OK to get the factory-overclocked ones?


I'm not interested in overclocking really, not anymore, but if it's done by the factory and safe then really there's no harm in a bit of extra performance. I just did my last overclocking benchmark. There was barely any change for World in Conflict except when the CPU was overclocked, Q6600 @ 3.25GHz, the minimum FPS went up about 5/6 fps, average didn't change by much though. Not bad really, this is the first time I actually saw an overclock on my system show an improvement in a benchmark. It's really not worth the hassle though.

 

njdevilsfan87

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I run ATI Tool for like 10 minutes tops to see if it's stable. So far I've never had a stability issue due to a graphics card messing up in what I have and currently think is stable.
 

zeroburrito

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my 6800 was so dirty it has been running at 125+c in games. this has been going on for MONTHS. it would shut off my pc when it reached 135c(threshold). i had to have a fan shooting in my case, if i forgot to turn it on it would crash within minutes(in non mmo type games, mmo's don't stress it enough). lately it started to throttle in games without crashing. cant play cod 4 at 22 fps, pretty much half of what i get when it isn't throttling. so i finally got down there to clean it out. never crashes anymore and runs at 75 instead of 125+. gpus can take an INCREDIBLE amount of heat. its the memory that has problems.

don't ask me why i didn't just clean out the card.
 
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