8800gts 320 what to go to

Xarick

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I would like to upgrade my 8800gts 320. Right now I game at 1440x900 but would like to move to HD resolutions. I thought I would get a 5850, but at $300 they seem way overpriced. So I am wondering what I should do?
 

PingviN

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$300 is far from overpriced. You not being able to afford it is another thing .
 

Qbah

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HD resolutions? 1280x720 is 720p - that's a "HD resolution". The other is 1920x1080 - 1080p. So your 1400x900 is right between the two "HD resolutions". If you want to play at 1920x1080, a HD5850 will do the job nicely. And 300$ is far from overpriced. The card debtued at 269$ and AMD raised MSRP to 300$ so that's the official price. Considering that the card is faster than a GTX285 that goes for $300+ too, I'd say the price is comparable to the competition. Of course everyone would want the cards to be cheaper - you can blame no competition and supply issues and of course AMD for wanting to make money
 

Xarick

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would a 5770 be better than a 4890?
also amds msrp is 279 not 300
it was 260. After getting this 8800gts 320 for 325 I will never again spend 300 on a vid card.
 

kalrith

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I'm personally holding out for a 5850 to come into my price range (or for me to save up more money). If I didn't want to spend that much, I'd go with a 4890, 5770, or gtx260.
 

happy medium

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Considering the 4890 was going for 170$ for months and is only 15% slower then the 5850, I'd say it's overpriced also.

For the extra features (direct x 11) and performance you get from a 5850 compared to a 4890 it should be about 220$.

The 4890 is also overpriced now @ 190$.
 

kalrith

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AFAIK the 5770 doesn't keep up with the 4890 right now. Some expect driver updates to remedy that problem, but there's no way of knowing that for sure. If you don't need the newer features of the 5770, then the 4890 is probably the better buy.
 

SRoode

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Keep in mind that the 5770s appear to be monster overclockers. I see most of them clocked to 900 to 1000 GHz +. Even both of my 5850s hit 900 MHz easily. Keep that in mind when comparing performance.
 

blanketyblank

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4850 is a nice card and a good upgrade from an 8800 gts 320. I know firsthand since I've gone from an 8800 gts 320 to a 512 to a 4850 and now a 5770. 4850 will work well up to 1080p, and I wouldn't have upgraded myself yet except I had a $100 promo to spend and gpu was the cheapest component I could upgrade.
I game at 1920 x 1080 on a plasma tv and although the new card is faster I can't really see much difference while playing games. A lot of the games I play like dirt 2 seem to cap the frame rates so the main benefit I get from the newer card is lower power consumption and directx 11 support once more games start using that.
 

lifeblood

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No need to upgrade, the way things are going Nvidia will do it for you. I'm sure they are going to rebadge the 8800 and call it a 3xx something. Then "poof", you have a free upgrade to a 300 series!

I'm sorry, did I think that out loud?
 

blanketyblank

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No need to upgrade, the way things are going Nvidia will do it for you. I'm sure they are going to rebadge the 8800 and call it a 3xx something. Then "poof", you have a free upgrade to a 300 series!

I'm sorry, did I think that out loud?

that would probably be true if it was an 8800 gts 512, 9800, 250. However the 320 is an older more expensive to produce core so I doubt it will be making a debut in the new line.
 

Xarick

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Okay.. so lets say then 4890 or 5770.
$200 is my budget so which should I go with. Both can be had for roughly the same price. is dx11 plus better AA worth the loss of performance at 1600x1050?
 

ibex333

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I would suggest that you go with a used 4890. That is what I did.

My reasoning is that there is too little games with support for DX11 atm, and NONE that require DX11. This will almost certainly remain so for at least another year, and even if there will be a somewhat significant amount of DX11 games, most of them will very likely still support DX10.

The reason why I am saying all this, is that in all the time that DX10 was available, I saw only a handful games that truly took advantage of the new tech, the rest, only talk about supporting it, but in reality, when DX9 and 10 modes are compared side by side they look virtually identical. This will very likely be the case with DX11 and when/if this changes mid range DX11 cards will cost around $150. So for $300 I will have an awesome card now, and another very capable one in a year. ; )

I didn't feel like spending $300 for a 5850, so I went with a much cheaper option that will easily rip through any DX10 game, and play them on max settings.
 

blanketyblank

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Between the two I'd go with the 5770 especially at that resolution. Either card will get you full fps at 1680 x 1050, but the 5770 will be much quieter, use a lot less power, and have dx11 support. I'm very impressed with the temps and sound on mine. I don't even hear imine in games unlike my 4850 which becomes audible under load.
If you ever really need the extra power in the future you can slap in another and crossfire for performance above a 5870. I'm not sure, but I believe 5770 crossfire can beat 4890 crossfire since it scales better.

Finally in terms of pricing I think the 5770 is slightly cheaper without rebates to worry about. 4890 is about 180 with 20 rebate. 5770 you can get for about 160 with 10 instant atleast the once I got was for this.
 
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AzN

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Keep in mind that the 5770s appear to be monster overclockers. I see most of them clocked to 900 to 1000 GHz +. Even both of my 5850s hit 900 MHz easily. Keep that in mind when comparing performance.

So does other cards out there.

Just look at my sig. My GTX260 also overclocks great. Stock GTX260 is 575.1350.999... My card outperform GTX275 or GTX280 for sure. 4890 also overclock to 900 to 1 ghz range with better memory overclocking as it's 256 bit is multiplied by 2x compared to 5770 with 128bit.
 

AzN

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Okay.. so lets say then 4890 or 5770.
$200 is my budget so which should I go with. Both can be had for roughly the same price. is dx11 plus better AA worth the loss of performance at 1600x1050?

If you aren't going to upgrade your monitor I think 4850 or gts250 is plenty and isn't too far off from 5770.

4890 is the faster card regardless of dx11 and better AA. Not that 5770 is fast enough to do SSAA other than 3+ year old games.
 

Ben90

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So does other cards out there.

Just look at my sig. My GTX260 also overclocks great. Stock GTX260 is 575.1350.999... My card outperform GTX275 or GTX280 for sure. 4890 also overclock to 900 to 1 ghz range with better memory overclocking as it's 256 bit is multiplied by 2x compared to 5770 with 128bit.
Missed the old days, my 7800gtx managed a 40% overclock
*edit*
on air
*editagain*
on its stock cooling
 

Rifter

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would a 5770 be better than a 4890?
card.

No, 4890 is faster in almost all benchs i have seen, only thing 5770 has going for it is DX 11, but by the time a true DX 11 Only game comes out a 5770 wont play it well anyways.
 

SRoode

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In the end, the 4890 and 5770 are very close to each other in performance and price. Depending on the OC you get with the card you choose, they will be within a frame or two per second of each other. Pricewise, the 5770 is a little bit cheaper and does have DX11 support. Also, if power consumption is an issue for you, the 5770 draws a lot less power than the 4890, so consider that in the cost of the card as well (operational cost).

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.p...k=view&id=383&Itemid=47&limit=1&limitstart=15
 

v8envy

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From that very same review: "The 5770 offers roughly the same performance as an HD4870"

That's reasonable. But how can it offer nearly the same performance as a part with the *same* number of highly similar shaders at the *same* clocks, but with the other part having more memory bandwidth (the 4890)? The rational answer is: "it can't, except at low resolutions or with no FSAA."

I will agree that it's comprable to a 4870, costs more, is more available and uses less power though. If you think a 4870 and 4890 are comparable then by all means, the 5770 is just as good as well.
 
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