8800GTS 512 In Stock 12/7 at eWiz

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: regpfj
G92 Asus 8800GTS 512 for $355.07 + shipping

G92 Evga 8800GTS 512 for $380.07 + shipping

shipping appears to be $13.82 UPS Ground to me in KC. YMMV, I suppose.

I wanted to pull the trigger, but couldn't quite bring myself to do it.

edit:
Tweaktown has a couple different previews/benchmarks of the GTS 512 comparing it to lots of other stuff.

Thanks for posting this, I took the liberty of copying it into the video forum and I made sure you got the credit
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: tjaisv
Originally posted by: bamacre
So is this card only slightly faster than the 512MB 8800 GT?

Other way around. 8800GT is faster than the 8800GTS 640MB. anandtech review

No, you are incorrect because we are not even talking about the G80 GTS... We are talking about G92 GTS.

G80GTS = 96 shaders @ 500Mhz/1188Mhz (stock) - 320 bit bus width

G92GTS = 128 shaders @ 650Mh/1650Mhz (stock) - 256 bit bus width



 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: tjaisv
Originally posted by: bamacre
So is this card only slightly faster than the 512MB 8800 GT?

Other way around. 8800GT is faster than the 8800GTS 640MB. anandtech review

No, you are incorrect because we are not even talking about the G80 GTS... We are talking about G92 GTS.

G80GTS = 96 shaders @ 500Mhz/1188Mhz (stock) - 320 bit bus width

G92GTS = 128 shaders @ 650Mh/1650Mhz (stock) - 256 bit bus width

omg consumer confusion
 

trevor0323

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Seems like a lot of scratch for probably only a marginal improvement over the 8800GT
 

ArchAngel777

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A lot of people do not want an 8800GT because it is a single slot solution. Many people out there (myself included) want a dual slot cooling solution. That is why many will opt for a 8800GTS over an 8800GT. The price/performance may be slightly inferior, but that 8800GTS should have very little problem keeping up with the now-discontinued 8800ULTRA.
 

xenolith

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
A lot of people do not want an 8800GT because it is a single slot solution. Many people out there (myself included) want a dual slot cooling solution. That is why many will opt for a 8800GTS over an 8800GT. The price/performance may be slightly inferior, but that 8800GTS should have very little problem keeping up with the now-discontinued 8800ULTRA.

Speak for yourself. With the new rev 8800GT cooler (bigger, more quiet fan) I'll take the single slot over the dual slot cooler any day, call me crazy.

Still, 8800GT price/performance FTW.
 

xenolith

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: tjaisv
Originally posted by: bamacre
So is this card only slightly faster than the 512MB 8800 GT?

Other way around. 8800GT is faster than the 8800GTS 640MB. anandtech review

No, you are incorrect because we are not even talking about the G80 GTS... We are talking about G92 GTS.

G80GTS = 96 shaders @ 500Mhz/1188Mhz (stock) - 320 bit bus width

G92GTS = 128 shaders @ 650Mh/1650Mhz (stock) - 256 bit bus width

omg consumer confusion

Not really. Just remember:

8800GTS 320MB/640MB = old G80

8800GTS 512MB/1GB = new G92
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
A lot of people do not want an 8800GT because it is a single slot solution. Many people out there (myself included) want a dual slot cooling solution. That is why many will opt for a 8800GTS over an 8800GT. The price/performance may be slightly inferior, but that 8800GTS should have very little problem keeping up with the now-discontinued 8800ULTRA.

Speak for yourself. With the new rev 8800GT cooler (bigger, more quiet fan) I'll take the single slot over the dual slot cooler any day, call me crazy.

Still, 8800GT price/performance FTW.

Thanks, but I thought I was... I am glad you enjoy blowing hot air into your case! So, yeah, I would call you crazy if you don't know the different between dual slot cooler and a single slot cooler and the reasons people prefer one over the other...
 

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777


Thanks, but I thought I was... I am glad you enjoy blowing hot air into your case! So, yeah, I would call you crazy if you don't know the different between dual slot cooler and a single slot cooler and the reasons people prefer one over the other...

Now wait a minute, professor. If that Tweaktown article is going to be indicative of the whole run of cards, it doesn't look like it makes much of a difference...less than 3 degrees at stock speeds.

http://www.tweaktown.com/artic...sound_tests/index.html
 

ashishmishra

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Originally posted by: eyk03

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777


Thanks, but I thought I was... I am glad you enjoy blowing hot air into your case! So, yeah, I would call you crazy if you don't know the different between dual slot cooler and a single slot cooler and the reasons people prefer one over the other...

Now wait a minute, professor. If that Tweaktown article is going to be indicative of the whole run of cards, it doesn't look like it makes much of a difference...less than 3 degrees at stock speeds.

http://www.tweaktown.com/artic...sound_tests/index.html

We don't know what the fan settings were on the GTS, but I'm willing to bet that at higher fan speeds, the GTS will be cooler, quieter, more overclockable than the GT, that plus the 128 shaders make it worth enough for me at $355.
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: eyk03

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777


Thanks, but I thought I was... I am glad you enjoy blowing hot air into your case! So, yeah, I would call you crazy if you don't know the different between dual slot cooler and a single slot cooler and the reasons people prefer one over the other...

Now wait a minute, professor. If that Tweaktown article is going to be indicative of the whole run of cards, it doesn't look like it makes much of a difference...less than 3 degrees at stock speeds.

http://www.tweaktown.com/artic...sound_tests/index.html

Did you mean to quote me?

I am totally lost if so...

Here, lets get back to the facts.

Dual slot coolers have large fans and exhaust the hot air outside of your computer case. Generally speaking, the larger the fan, the less RPM it needs to maintain CFM. This means that the noise level of a dual slot cooler is lower than that if a single slot. The only disadvantage to a dual slot cooler that I can see is that it takes up 'two' slots. I don't see this as an issue for most people, but no doubt, there are people who need single slot cooling soltutions and some people just don't care. Nothing wrong with that... So lets rehash here..

1) Dual Slot coolers are not louder than single slot coolers when dissapating the same ammount of heat.

2) Dual Slot coolers eject the hot air outside of your computer case. This can be a serious issue if you are air cooling as the heat inside the case will perpetually get hotter and hotter unless you have great case air flow. The hotter the air inside the case, the hotter everything else becomes that is cooled with air.

When dealing with a single slot cooler that dumps the air inside the case, it doesn't matter how good of a cooler you have in regards to raising case temperature because the heat output is the same on the card regardless. In other words, if this new revised single slot cooler runs 3c cooler on the chip itself, that does not mean that your case temperature will drop 3c, it will in fact remain the same temperature because the video card itself is still generated a certain wattage of heat.

Hope this clears the confusion here. I am open to hearing why others may feel single slot is superior to a dual slot, of course, already assuming that we agree in the space savings of the single slot cooler.
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: ashishmishra
Originally posted by: eyk03

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777


Thanks, but I thought I was... I am glad you enjoy blowing hot air into your case! So, yeah, I would call you crazy if you don't know the different between dual slot cooler and a single slot cooler and the reasons people prefer one over the other...

Now wait a minute, professor. If that Tweaktown article is going to be indicative of the whole run of cards, it doesn't look like it makes much of a difference...less than 3 degrees at stock speeds.

http://www.tweaktown.com/artic...sound_tests/index.html

We don't know what the fan settings were on the GTS, but I'm willing to bet that at higher fan speeds, the GTS will be cooler, quieter, more overclockable than the GT, that plus the 128 shaders make it worth enough for me at $355.


Yep, the GTS can maintain lower noise levels while dissapating MORE heat. Keep in mind the GTS is generating more heat due its higher power requirement. It has more shaders, higher stock core clock and a higher stock memory clock. This generates more heat, on top of not knowing the speed and RPM's were of both coolers. In order to make it apples and apples, or as close as it can be, you really would need to underclock the GTS (or overclock the GT) to the same levels, set the fans on 100% and then test for 1-2 hours of ATI tool. I garentee you will see a large temperature difference.

Again, even if that were not the case (it is the case, but lets pretend it isn't) you are stilling dumping the heat into your computer case with a single slot cooler. If that doesn't bother you, then great, but if you have a QC overclocked on air, you may want to think twice, else you may need to lower your overclock to compensate for the increase ambient temps (case air that is used by the CPU heatsink to dissapate the CPU's heat).
 

xenolith

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
A lot of people do not want an 8800GT because it is a single slot solution. Many people out there (myself included) want a dual slot cooling solution. That is why many will opt for a 8800GTS over an 8800GT. The price/performance may be slightly inferior, but that 8800GTS should have very little problem keeping up with the now-discontinued 8800ULTRA.

Speak for yourself. With the new rev 8800GT cooler (bigger, more quiet fan) I'll take the single slot over the dual slot cooler any day, call me crazy.

Still, 8800GT price/performance FTW.

Thanks, but I thought I was... I am glad you enjoy blowing hot air into your case! So, yeah, I would call you crazy if you don't know the different between dual slot cooler and a single slot cooler and the reasons people prefer one over the other...

Then do you always express yourself as "a lot of people" and "many people?"

If your case temps are that close to the edge of thermal distress, that a dual slot video card cooler is going to make that much of a difference to overall system stability, you probably have a serious enclosure ventilation problem that needs some attention.
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: xenolith
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
A lot of people do not want an 8800GT because it is a single slot solution. Many people out there (myself included) want a dual slot cooling solution. That is why many will opt for a 8800GTS over an 8800GT. The price/performance may be slightly inferior, but that 8800GTS should have very little problem keeping up with the now-discontinued 8800ULTRA.

Speak for yourself. With the new rev 8800GT cooler (bigger, more quiet fan) I'll take the single slot over the dual slot cooler any day, call me crazy.

Still, 8800GT price/performance FTW.

Thanks, but I thought I was... I am glad you enjoy blowing hot air into your case! So, yeah, I would call you crazy if you don't know the different between dual slot cooler and a single slot cooler and the reasons people prefer one over the other...

Then do you always express yourself as "a lot of people" and "many people?"

If your case temps are that close to the edge of thermal distress, that a dual slot video card cooler is going to make that much of a difference to overall system stability, you probably have a serious enclosure ventilation problem that needs some attention.

Thanks for purposely leaving out 'myself included'. I underlined that one for you so you don't miss it. If you are still finding yourself wanting to discuss word or phrase usage, then please bring it to PMs so we do not have to bring pointless banter into a thread talking about the G92 and it being on sale. OK?

As for single slot solutions... Come back when you can tout the advantages it has. Remember, I already agree on the space savings. So what advantage does a single slot cooler have over a dual slot?

Edited for clarification

 

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Is anybody else having trouble opening ewiz? I'm getting a download file prompt telling me it is an "application/octet-stream"
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: Wedge1
Is anybody else having trouble opening ewiz? I'm getting a download file prompt telling me it is an "application/octet-stream"

I check on it for you and yes, the website is having some major issues right now.
 
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