8800Ultra for $999??

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: redbox

Originally posted by: Matt2
You guys are also forgetting that 7800GTX 512mb had an MSRP of like $650 set by Nvidia.

The reason why it was so expensive was the blood sucking vendors were price gouging because supplies were so low.

I find it hard to believe that Nvidia would set an MSRP of $999 for this card unless it was something REALLY special.

Or I could see Nvidia setting the MSRP of $999 for this card because it has nothing to compete against not simply because it is something REALLY special. I reallly think the price is just a reflection on the competetion in the graphics market right now

Thats not to say however, that I don't think this card will perform (It better darn well perform or it's not going to do well). Nvidia set the MSRP of the 7800GTX 512 when they did have competetion or at least more than at the present moment. It's hard to say what the price of that card would have been if the situation was the same as now. Would Nvidia have set the 7800GTX 512's MSRP that high no one knows, but I have a feeling they would have pushed a bit higher than $650.

Well, you're right, but X2900XTX shouldnt be too far behind it.

Give Nvidia credit where credit is due. They've had ZERO competition for six months and they have kept the prices on 8800GTX down.

 

[anon6]

Originally posted by: yacoub

Originally posted by: Modular
pffft, give it 10 years. We're already over $500 as a norm for just released top of the line cards.

And over 99% of buyers never buy a $500 GPU, so no.
And yes, $999 is STUPID. Anyone who buys one at that price is wasting their money no matter how much of it they have.

I'll bet you that in 20 years $1000 gaming cards/peripherals will be very common. Inflation + economic growth + complexity of games.

BTW $999 is more than what you have when you live paycheck to paycheck.
It's 1% for someone with $100k in cash.
Or 0.01% of $10m.
When you have a billion, you can buy a million 8800 Ultras more easily than many people can afford a million pennies.

 

[redbox]

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: redbox

Originally posted by: Matt2
You guys are also forgetting that 7800GTX 512mb had an MSRP of like $650 set by Nvidia.

The reason why it was so expensive was the blood sucking vendors were price gouging because supplies were so low.

I find it hard to believe that Nvidia would set an MSRP of $999 for this card unless it was something REALLY special.

Or I could see Nvidia setting the MSRP of $999 for this card because it has nothing to compete against not simply because it is something REALLY special. I reallly think the price is just a reflection on the competetion in the graphics market right now

Thats not to say however, that I don't think this card will perform (It better darn well perform or it's not going to do well). Nvidia set the MSRP of the 7800GTX 512 when they did have competetion or at least more than at the present moment. It's hard to say what the price of that card would have been if the situation was the same as now. Would Nvidia have set the 7800GTX 512's MSRP that high no one knows, but I have a feeling they would have pushed a bit higher than $650.

Well, you're right, but X2900XTX shouldnt be too far behind it.

Give Nvidia credit where credit is due. They've had ZERO competition for six months and they have kept the prices on 8800GTX down.

True. Nvidia has done quite well with the 8800GTX and the GTS. I like the fact that they haven't really taken advantage of not having competition. But I do wonder how much of that is Nvidia playing nice and how much is due to the lack of any new games with which to drive the high-end graphics market. In the 7800 series we had BF2 and FEAR with which to drive upgrades. With the x1900 and 7900 we had Oblivion. I just don't see a mass of games that are pushing people to buy new or upgrade. Of course this is just my view I could be sheltered from some meaningful reason to upgrade to a high dollar graphics card. It's just untill a real Hum dinger of a game comes out I don't feel the need to drop $1000 smackers into my video card.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: redbox

Originally posted by: Matt2
You guys are also forgetting that 7800GTX 512mb had an MSRP of like $650 set by Nvidia.

The reason why it was so expensive was the blood sucking vendors were price gouging because supplies were so low.

I find it hard to believe that Nvidia would set an MSRP of $999 for this card unless it was something REALLY special.

Or I could see Nvidia setting the MSRP of $999 for this card because it has nothing to compete against not simply because it is something REALLY special. I reallly think the price is just a reflection on the competetion in the graphics market right now

Thats not to say however, that I don't think this card will perform (It better darn well perform or it's not going to do well). Nvidia set the MSRP of the 7800GTX 512 when they did have competetion or at least more than at the present moment. It's hard to say what the price of that card would have been if the situation was the same as now. Would Nvidia have set the 7800GTX 512's MSRP that high no one knows, but I have a feeling they would have pushed a bit higher than $650.

In a way that is true, but then at the same token, what stopped Nvidia from setting a 999 price point on a 8800GTX? There's no competition, right? So why not?

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: anon6

Originally posted by: yacoub

Originally posted by: Modular
pffft, give it 10 years. We're already over $500 as a norm for just released top of the line cards.

And over 99% of buyers never buy a $500 GPU, so no.
And yes, $999 is STUPID. Anyone who buys one at that price is wasting their money no matter how much of it they have.

I'll bet you that in 20 years $1000 gaming cards/peripherals will be very common. Inflation + economic growth + complexity of games.

BTW $999 is more than what you have when you live paycheck to paycheck.
It's 1% for someone with $100k in cash.
Or 0.01% of $10m.
When you have a billion, you can buy a million 8800 Ultras more easily than many people can afford a million pennies.

LOL! In 20 years we will probably be able to download a new computer. Well, maybe not.....

 

[Hemsky]

I wonder if this constitutes using the eVGA step-up program and trading in the 8800GTX KO ACS3 for one of these crazy indulgence cards. The main question is, will it support its own weight?

 

[vhx]

Originally posted by: clandren
only 3 easy payments of $333.33
act now and we'll throw in this blender as a free gift!

That's not all, if you call RIGHT NOW we will throw in a free complimentary toothbrush!

 

[AVP]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: clandren
only 3 easy payments of $333.33
act now and we'll throw in this blender as a free gift!

Sounds intriguing, but only if the blender overclocks well.

Haha It would be sweet if someone did a "will it blend" to a pair of these cards. Yum!

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Give Nvidia credit where credit is due. They've had ZERO competition for six months and they have kept the prices on 8800GTX down.

I don't really agree with you here. The 8800GTX launched almost 6 months ago, and it's only ~$100 less than at launch. Last year when there was competition the prices on the 7900GTX and X1900XT fell much more quickly than that. Don't get me wrong, if I was NVIDIA I wouldn't drop the price either, but I think the price drop that we've seen is simply due tp the fact that even enthusiasts won't buy an 8800GTX for $600+ anymore. I for one am happy with mine even though I paid close to $650 at launch (brick and mortar), but the driver situation this late after the launch has me less than ethusiastic at times and I wouldn't buy one at that price now...

 

[tuteja1986]

I can't wait for some goon to buy these at 999USD from fry and go "look at me ... i am awesome". Remember the fools that bought 8800GTX 512MB to buy it for $850 a month before ATI released ATI X1900XT.

 

[Gstanfor]

Geforce 8800Ultra confirmed: Expect Reviews on May 1st and aavailablity May 15th

Geforce 8800Ultra confirmed: Expect Reviews on May 1st and aavailablity May 15th
On a Conf Call with Nvidia now, release of 8800Ultra is confirmed, Specs, later.

Confirmed a single chip card.

Expect Reviews on May 1st and aavailablity May 15th

 

[AVP]

Heh I hope its still $999 just for giggles

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Geforce 8800Ultra confirmed: Expect Reviews on May 1st and aavailablity May 15th

Geforce 8800Ultra confirmed: Expect Reviews on May 1st and aavailablity May 15th
On a Conf Call with Nvidia now, release of 8800Ultra is confirmed, Specs, later.

Confirmed a single chip card.

Expect Reviews on May 1st and aavailablity May 15th

Not surprised it's a single gpu card. I didn't think we'd see a dual G80 style card like the GX2 this gen. Maybe after a shrink, but I'm thinking more like G90 before quad-SLI makes another appearance. The G80 core is too big, too hot, and the G80 SLI drivers still aren't there enough yet to merit a dual gpu card, let alone quad-SLI. Then again, NVIDIA has surprised me before...

 

[redbox]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Geforce 8800Ultra confirmed: Expect Reviews on May 1st and aavailablity May 15th

Geforce 8800Ultra confirmed: Expect Reviews on May 1st and aavailablity May 15th
On a Conf Call with Nvidia now, release of 8800Ultra is confirmed, Specs, later.

Confirmed a single chip card.

Expect Reviews on May 1st and aavailablity May 15th

Thanks for the info Gstanfor. Hmm. Not a dual chip I wonder where the extra expense is, if not in the cost of cores. That site you linked brought up some explanations one being it could be GDDR4. If that is the case I hope it has a massive amount, enough to make it worth our while for paying 1k. Another one is it could be a massive overclock and hence costs so much because of limited supply on cores that will do that speed i.e. low yield. I doubt that it is a core with any architecture additions although i guess that could be a possibility. This is shaping up to be kinda confusing as to why the high price if no added core.

Hehe just on a humorous note. 8800GTX Ultra - $600 on debit/ master card. Nvidia glitch free rock solid drivers - $400 on debit/ master card. Nvidia public relations - priceless.

 

[AVP]

Since its a single chip card how much of an upgrade can they provide? I mean you can get non water-cooled gtx-s at 626/1800. Without extra shaders or gddr4, how high can the clocks and price go without a special cooling system?

 

[Gstanfor]

Well, $999 pricetag is mere speculation, though if the Ultra features 1.5 gig DDR4 memory as rumored that would certainly explain it. I'd certainly have no problem paying a grand for a card with a gig & a half of memory onboard (stalker can already use a gig of memory just for texturing).

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Pugnate
I think it will be a grand for maybe a month.

And then they will be sold out.

Are you predicting a rerun of the 7800 512mb? They make 14 for sale, but sites use them in benchmarks forever?

 

[redbox]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well, $999 pricetag is mere speculation, though if the Ultra features 1.5 gig DDR4 memory as rumored that would certainly explain it. I'd certainly have no problem paying a grand for a card with a gig & a half of memory onboard (stalker can already use a gig of memory just for texturing).

$999 pricetag is speculation?

Roadmaps provided by NVIDIA reveal the 8800 Ultra will launch on May 1 with a price point of $999.

That sounds a bit more than speculation.

 

[lopri]

It's also possible that this thing is the (previously) rumoured '160 stream processors' version that they've been stock-piling for the 7800 GTX 512 style launch. Memory amount being 1.0 ~ 1.5 GB. (and possibly 512-bit instead of 384-bit?) And higher clock speed, of course. I agree with others that dual-chip configuration isn't feasible with G80, until a die-shrink.

 

[Stumps]

hmmm I wonder if this will have a 768-bit memory bus instead of a 512-bit or the standard 384-bit...since the ram has been doubled from 768mb to 1.5GB they could have simply added a second memory bus, effectivily offering twice as much memory bandwidth as the GTX.

Just a thought.

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: redbox

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well, $999 pricetag is mere speculation, though if the Ultra features 1.5 gig DDR4 memory as rumored that would certainly explain it. I'd certainly have no problem paying a grand for a card with a gig & a half of memory onboard (stalker can already use a gig of memory just for texturing).

$999 pricetag is speculation?

Roadmaps provided by NVIDIA reveal the 8800 Ultra will launch on May 1 with a price point of $999.

That sounds a bit more than speculation.

I'll believe the pricetag when it appears in my RRP lists and not before. As I said it's entirely possible that its correct, but we don't know that until the product actually launches.

As for roadmaps, what about ATi's roadmaps of old showing R400 & R500? whatever happened to them (hint R400 is now R600 & r500 is xenos).

 

[redbox]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: redbox

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well, $999 pricetag is mere speculation, though if the Ultra features 1.5 gig DDR4 memory as rumored that would certainly explain it. I'd certainly have no problem paying a grand for a card with a gig & a half of memory onboard (stalker can already use a gig of memory just for texturing).

$999 pricetag is speculation?

Roadmaps provided by NVIDIA reveal the 8800 Ultra will launch on May 1 with a price point of $999.

That sounds a bit more than speculation.

I'll believe the pricetag when it appears in my RRP lists and not before. As I said it's entirely possible that its correct, but we don't know that until the product actually launches.

As for roadmaps, what about ATi's roadmaps of old showing R400 & R500? whatever happened to them (hint R400 is now R600 & r500 is xenos).

Point taken, I thought you where implying that that price stemmed from random posters SPECULATING on what it might cost. Just wanted to point out for the record that this price came directly from the horses mouth.

 

[shadowofthesun]

Originally posted by: AVP

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: clandren
only 3 easy payments of $333.33
act now and we'll throw in this blender as a free gift!

Sounds intriguing, but only if the blender overclocks well.

Haha It would be sweet if someone did a "will it blend" to a pair of these cards. Yum!

...
If I saw that on Youtube I would probably cry...

This whole $999 business kind of reminds me of a thread on THG's forums about a guy who bought a Quadro Plex for $17k and then paired it with the Pentium D 915 and 1 gb of ram...

 

[Auric]

Meow meow perspective meow.

You could have spent $800-850 on a couple cheesy Voodoo2's when they came out in the mid-1990's (in adjusted dollars). Given MSRP of $999 then even 10% less for retail is all of a sudden only $900. Think of the exponentially better experience that can be had for your money today.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: Imyourzero

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
$999? Hahahahahahaha...breathes...hahahahahahaha....

That was my reaction when Intel was selling the PIII 1GHz for over $1k

The price of this gpu if true is outrageous but the specs are yet to be seen.. The fact is though that spending 1k for a gpu is "less insane" than spending 1k for a cpu.. Manufacturing costs are higher also..

Originally posted by: Stumps
hmmm I wonder if this will have a 768-bit memory bus instead of a 512-bit or the standard 384-bit...since the ram has been doubled from 768mb to 1.5GB they could have simply added a second memory bus, effectivily offering twice as much memory bandwidth as the GTX.

Just a thought.

This is impossible.. How exactly do you expect them to "simply add" a second memory bus in the SKU/PCB? Despite that even a single 768bit memory bus is simply daydreaming.. We are too early in terms of technology for that and even if they could do this (which they can't 100% ) that would make the pcb gigantic..