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S Freud

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If you actually paid the tuition in 2010; you can file a 1040X (ammended return).

Or check the crystal ball to see if the tuition payment might be better off claimed for 2011 when you actually were in class.

You do have the allowed flexability as long as you document the cross over in your records.

How long do I have to wait to file the amended return 1040X? I used turbo tax to file this year and already received my refund. I only work a part time job while going to school so I don't have any other deductions or higher wage brackets to worry about for claiming the tuition next year.
 

EagleKeeper

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If you actually paid the tuition in 2010; you can file a 1040X (ammended return).

Or check the crystal ball to see if the tuition payment might be better off claimed for 2011 when you actually were in class.

You do have the allowed flexability as long as you document the cross over in your records.

How long do I have to wait to file the amended return 1040X? I used turbo tax to file this year and already received my refund. I only work a part time job while going to school so I don't have any other deductions or higher wage brackets to worry about for claiming the tuition next year.
you can file the 1040X immediately.

It will have to be on paper/mailed in.

The 1040X then get put to the bottom of the pile (figuratively) until 15 April.

Manpower is handling the normal returns coming in; then after all the returns that have shown up by the 15th have been handled, they will start on the ammended returns.

This timeline is not formally published, but concurred by a couple of paper pushers in the IRS that I have spoken to
 

KlokWyze

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Ugh hit a huge problem... I already filed my federal and state returns and they were both accepted, but I just got a letter from a school I paid tuition at last year informing me of qualifying tuition, fees, etc. for claim on my return. Am I able to resubmit both federal and state with this adjustment in there? Should I try to cancel the incoming federal/state payments now?!?!?!
 

Xcobra

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Ugh hit a huge problem... I already filed my federal and state returns and they were both accepted, but I just got a letter from a school I paid tuition at last year informing me of qualifying tuition, fees, etc. for claim on my return. Am I able to resubmit both federal and state with this adjustment in there? Should I try to cancel the incoming federal/state payments now?!?!?!
As the post above yours states, you have to amend the returns for Federal and if the state follows some of the Federal laws regarding the tuition/fees, etc., you'd have to amend the state as well.
 

EagleKeeper

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Ugh hit a huge problem... I already filed my federal and state returns and they were both accepted, but I just got a letter from a school I paid tuition at last year informing me of qualifying tuition, fees, etc. for claim on my return. Am I able to resubmit both federal and state with this adjustment in there? Should I try to cancel the incoming federal/state payments now?!?!?!

Read the answer in the post above.

This thread is available for public viewing. The purpose is so people will read what others have experienced and learn from it.
 

Chrono

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Quick question guys. I am trying to figure out something with dependency.

If my Mom didn't work in 2010, went to school for ten months full time for a Cosmotology training obtaining an estetician license, and received 3809 in Scholarships or grants, do I have to file a separate tax for her?
 

KlokWyze

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As the post above yours states, you have to amend the returns for Federal and if the state follows some of the Federal laws regarding the tuition/fees, etc., you'd have to amend the state as well.

Read the answer in the post above.

This thread is available for public viewing. The purpose is so people will read what others have experienced and learn from it.

I did read a little of the thread, but I didn't search through it as I should have. Sorry about that.

Is it possible to just claim this for my 2011 tax year in 2012? If I have to wait till April anyways, I wouldn't mind waiting until tax time next year... Thanks
 

EagleKeeper

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I did read a little of the thread, but I didn't search through it as I should have. Sorry about that.

Is it possible to just claim this for my 2011 tax year in 2012? If I have to wait till April anyways, I wouldn't mind waiting until tax time next year... Thanks
Those expenses were for 2010; they can not be claimed in 2011.
Recalcualte using the 1040X.

People need to realize what documents they should be expecting and wait for them.

Only the W2 have to be out by 31 Jan.
1099 and 1098s do not
 

EagleKeeper

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Quick question guys. I am trying to figure out something with dependency.

If my Mom didn't work in 2010, went to school for ten months full time for a Cosmotology training obtaining an estetician license, and received 3809 in Scholarships or grants, do I have to file a separate tax for her?

If you claim her as a dependant, you may have to file her as such - look what the numbers show when you prepare a return with her classified as a dependant. You can then file as HOH which will benefit you.

If she files as a non-dependant, different situations can arise.
 

Chrono

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So if I am claiming her as a dependent, then I will have to file? I am filling things out using the H&R block software and her 1098-T says:

If you were a degree candidate, the taxable amount of the scholarship, grant, or fellowship is the amount you used to pay for expenses other than tuition and course-related expenses. For example, amounts used for room, board and travel are taxable. She received 3809 in grants. This was for tuition/fees/books. Do I put 0 then or...? Payments, received for qualified tuition and related expenses are listed as 3860.00.

Thanks so much for answering!


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Originally Posted by Chrono
Quick question guys. I am trying to figure out something with dependency.

If my Mom didn't work in 2010, went to school for ten months full time for a Cosmotology training obtaining an estetician license, and received 3809 in Scholarships or grants, do I have to file a separate tax for her?
If you claim her as a dependant, you may have to file her as such - look what the numbers show when you prepare a return with her classified as a dependant. You can then file as HOH which will benefit you.

If she files as a non-dependant, different situations can arise.
 

mwtgg

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Those expenses were for 2010; they can not be claimed in 2011.
Recalcualte using the 1040X.

People need to realize what documents they should be expecting and wait for them.

Only the W2 have to be out by 31 Jan.
1099 and 1098s do not

Where are you getting this? Most tax forms have to be mailed to the recipients by Jan 31. Sure, there's an extension for submitting them to the IRS/SSA, but the recipient's copy should be mailed by the end of January. Yes, brokerage houses (and those issuing 1099-B and 1099-S) get an extension til Feb 15th, but that's the exception, not the rule.
 

mwtgg

Lifer
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So if I am claiming her as a dependent, then I will have to file? I am filling things out using the H&R block software and her 1098-T says:

If you were a degree candidate, the taxable amount of the scholarship, grant, or fellowship is the amount you used to pay for expenses other than tuition and course-related expenses. For example, amounts used for room, board and travel are taxable. She received 3809 in grants. This was for tuition/fees/books. Do I put 0 then or...? Payments, received for qualified tuition and related expenses are listed as 3860.00.

Thanks so much for answering!

Without actually knowing what the H&R Block software looks like I can only focus on the 1098-T itself. In essence, if Box 5 is greater than Box 1 and/or Box 2, then there is no tax benefit for the tuition. The difference between Boxes 1 and 2 and Box 5 is the deductible tuition expense.

Since you said the grants/scholarships were used for tuition expenses, it's not going to be taxable.
 

mwtgg

Lifer
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I have a High Deductible health plan that has an HSA attached to it. In addition to me putting like $1800 into my HSA with post-tax dollars, about $900 of pre-tax earnings were put into my HSA from my paycheck every two weeks. This shows up in Box 14 on my W2.

I am confused because when I am filling out my tax return online, it is saying that contributions to my HSA should be in box 12 with code W? All I have in box 12 of my W2 is my 401K contributions. Does this make sense?

Box 12 Code W is for employer contributions to your HSA. Your after-tax contributions would go on Line 2 of the 8889.

That being said, if I'm reading the instructions right, it looks like contributions made under a cafeteria plan should appear as employer contributions (Code W).
 

pontifex

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If I forgot to enter something into my taxes and I already filed, is there a way to get it added in?


So I bought a chair for my home office that was $350. I also had other small expenses for supplies for a total of $153. So there's like $500. Will that missing chair expense make any difference?
 

mwtgg

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If I forgot to enter something into my taxes and I already filed, is there a way to get it added in?


So I bought a chair for my home office that was $350. I also had other small expenses for supplies for a total of $153. So there's like $500. Will that missing chair expense make any difference?

This similar question was literally answered twice in the last day. That being said, deductions for business use of home always feel so... exaggerated to me. How much of that chair is business use? Personally, I would not bother amending your return. I would likely advise against it. It's just not worth it.
 

pontifex

Lifer
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This similar question was literally answered twice in the last day. That being said, deductions for business use of home always feel so... exaggerated to me. How much of that chair is business use? Personally, I would not bother amending your return. I would likely advise against it. It's just not worth it.

Sorry, I'm not reading 340 posts to try to find one question.

100% - If I'm not working I'm not in that chair. Hell, I'm not even in that room unless I'm working. I ran it through Taxact again and it only gives $11 more back on my state filing.
 

mwtgg

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Sorry, I'm not reading 340 posts to try to find one question.

100&#37; - If I'm not working I'm not in that chair. Hell, I'm not even in that room unless I'm working. I ran it through Taxact again and it only gives $11 more back on my state filing.

You're one of the few who actually treat it legitimately. I mean, if you want to go ahead and file a 1040X, amended PA40 and an amended local return (once you get your refunds), go right ahead. Personally, I wouldn't bother.
 

EagleKeeper

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Ammending a return for Home Office could set a red flag
 

Homerboy

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Home Business Question:

My wife runs a small home business. She sells at art fairs throughout the state/area. Each one of these shows though will have a booth fee. Those fees have added up to nearly $4000 this year ($3666.73 to be exact). I'm not sure where to enter this amount though when doing her business taxes.

Is it "Legal and Professional Fees"? Building/Rental Fees?
I'm thinking the later as she's "renting" the space for the show for that given day/weekend/week right?
 

mwtgg

Lifer
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Home Business Question:

My wife runs a small home business. She sells at art fairs throughout the state/area. Each one of these shows though will have a booth fee. Those fees have added up to nearly $4000 this year ($3666.73 to be exact). I'm not sure where to enter this amount though when doing her business taxes.

Is it "Legal and Professional Fees"? Building/Rental Fees?
I'm thinking the later as she's "renting" the space for the show for that given day/weekend/week right?

You could make a case for treating it as advertising. You could also just list it as "Other Expense" with a description. I would not, however, call it "Legal and Professional Fees".
 

Bateluer

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Guys, I must be doing something really wrong here. I changed jobs at the end of March 2010, so I have two W2s. Done this with both TaxAct and HR Block online and got differing, but similar results. Right after my W2s are entered, both will say my federal refund is ~1200. After I enter my 1099-INTs, 1099-R, 1099-SAN, and the 1098 that has the mortgage interest and property taxes, both programs dropped significantly. TaxAct drops the Federal refund to ~100 and HR Block says I owe ~30 dollars.

I thought you're supposed to get a large amount of that mortgage interest back? Everyone else I know that owns homes gets pretty large refunds because of it. What the heck am I doing wrong here?
 

mwtgg

Lifer
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Guys, I must be doing something really wrong here. I changed jobs at the end of March 2010, so I have two W2s. Done this with both TaxAct and HR Block online and got differing, but similar results. Right after my W2s are entered, both will say my federal refund is ~1200. After I enter my 1099-INTs, 1099-R, 1099-SAN, and the 1098 that has the mortgage interest and property taxes, both programs dropped significantly. TaxAct drops the Federal refund to ~100 and HR Block says I owe ~30 dollars.

I thought you're supposed to get a large amount of that mortgage interest back? Everyone else I know that owns homes gets pretty large refunds because of it. What the heck am I doing wrong here?

If you have substantial amounts of income without withholding, then you're going to get different results from everyone else. Taxes aren't one size fits all, everyone's situation is different.

As far as your two different results issue, take a look, line by line and see what's different. That should guide you on your way.
 

Bateluer

Lifer
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If you have substantial amounts of income without withholding, then you're going to get different results from everyone else. Taxes aren't one size fits all, everyone's situation is different.

The new job pays more than my old job, but the combined income for both is ~39K. My W4 has been the same for the past decade. I haven't gotten a Federal refund that low since I delivered a free newspaper for 15 dollars every other week.
 
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