8th Annual Anandtech Tax Time Thread (OP Updated 14th Jan)

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Xcobra

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We're in a new tax bracket...we skipped a few because my wife finished school and is working now. The problem is that she's been concentrating on paying her loans back, so we've not brought home as much income as you'd think.

I wish there was a way to write off the money paid down on school loans to get some kind of adjustment.
Interest paid on the loan can be deducted. However, it will get reduced between 120,000 and $150,000, phased out after 150,000. That's all you have, really.
 

deadlyapp

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I'm sure it's already been asked but:

I am a resident of california where there is a state income tax. For 6 months of this past year I worked in Washington where there is no state income tax. Am I required to pay state income tax on those earnings that I made in washington?
 

elwood

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My girlfriend, whom lives with me, had not worked at all last year. Should i claim head of household or single with her as a dependent?
 

EagleKeeper

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We're in a new tax bracket...we skipped a few because my wife finished school and is working now. The problem is that she's been concentrating on paying her loans back, so we've not brought home as much income as you'd think.

I wish there was a way to write off the money paid down on school loans to get some kind of adjustment.

You also did not pay taxes on the loans, got a credit for the purpose of the loans, able to get additioanl income to pay off the loans and as stated, possibly able to write off some of the interest.

I would think that you did fairly well looking at the end game.
 

EagleKeeper

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I'm sure it's already been asked but:

I am a resident of california where there is a state income tax. For 6 months of this past year I worked in Washington where there is no state income tax. Am I required to pay state income tax on those earnings that I made in washington?

This was explained in the OP (which you apparently did not read) that we are unable to answer state tax questions. You will have to take up with California.
 

EagleKeeper

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My girlfriend, whom lives with me, had not worked at all last year. Should i claim head of household or single with her as a dependent?

If you read the OP (apparently you did not), last year the IRS made a ruling about this.
 

HopJokey

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For 2009, only business use is deducble. Pub 535 - Chapt 11 - Telephone.

The IRS does not have an updated Pub 535 out for 2010. recommend that you double check this before committing to either method.

Thanks guys. Actually this will be for Tax Year 2011 as I started a new corporation for my real estate investments this year. The phone number is my personal line, but will be used for both business and personal.

I did read the new law about phones don't have to be treated like a managed asset or something like that. Is that the law you guys are referring to?
 

Scarpozzi

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You also did not pay taxes on the loans, got a credit for the purpose of the loans, able to get additioanl income to pay off the loans and as stated, possibly able to write off some of the interest.

I would think that you did fairly well looking at the end game.
End-game is no contest... It's just for now, our combined income is $132k before deductions. We fell short on income tax withheld, so we're getting stuck with a $5.2k bill after factoring in the standard deduction, deducting edu loan interest, a $600 energy credit (claimed $900 last year), and the $800 MWP credit.

If I could come up with $5k to put into an IRA, that would only save me about $1k in deductions, right? I'm just trying to figure out any way possible to reduce the damage...more long term than short.
 

EagleKeeper

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Your income level would imply that a IRA should save you close to 25&#37; in taxes.

I do not know the details of IRA funding for joint income, but you may be able to do 5K for each of you.

Look at what is available on the Schedule A that may work for you.
The amount of income may have some high state taxes
 

elwood

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If you read the OP (apparently you did not), last year the IRS made a ruling about this.

Significant others are able to be declared as a dependent if you provide the support according to the IRS guidelines. (I personally feel that this is a loophole, however, take advantage of it as you desire - I would not push it with multiple SO at the same time ...)SO's children are now allowed based on a IRS notice of 3/08. This can also be used retroactively for the past 3 years.

I assumed this was always the case. I almost claimed my GF last year but she barely made over the limit of income. Why do you consider this a loophole? If you pay for 50&#37;+ of someones expenses, should you not be able to claim them as a dependent and catch a break on taxes?

So what i gather from this is that i can claim my girlfriend as a dependent whether i file single or HoH, correct?

Do I claim HoH and one dependent or just HoH and no dependents?
 
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EagleKeeper

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I assumed this was always the case. I almost claimed my GF last year but she barely made over the limit of income. Why do you consider this a loophole? If you pay for 50&#37;+ of someones expenses, should you not be able to claim them as a dependent and catch a break on taxes?

So what i gather from this is that i can claim my girlfriend as a dependent whether i file single or HoH, correct?

Do I claim HoH and one dependent or just HoH and no dependents?
My opinion of the loophole is that an adult of age that is not going to school, who is not a relative should not be able to be claimed as a dependant.

This allows anyone to setup a location and claim unworking adults or those with unreported income as dependants.

Setup a tent city/soup kitchen and if you have a $100K income, take your taxable income to close to zero by claiming a dozen "homeless". If they have young kids, so much the better. All you need is their SS#. rotate every two years to avoid audit verification by the IRS.

One would get the charity write off for the shelter/kitchen, the dependant credits and and child credits that could apply.


On to your question.
Based on the IRS guidelines, you can claim her as an dependant and then file as HoH.

Singles can not claim dependants and to file HoH you need a dependant.
 

leglez

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I have received my first W2 to my main job a few weeks ago. I am still waiting on my second W2 from my secondary job. I earned less than $1,000 at the secondary job. Can I file the first one and second one separately or do I have to do them together? I would like to go ahead and file my first one so I can get some money back.
 

CPA

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I have received my first W2 to my main job a few weeks ago. I am still waiting on my second W2 from my secondary job. I earned less than $1,000 at the secondary job. Can I file the first one and second one separately or do I have to do them together? I would like to go ahead and file my first one so I can get some money back.

If you file now, there's a good chance the IRS will hold up your refund because they know you have a second W2. When they don't see it on your return, they will hold up your return and may add it for you. You don't want the IRS doing your tax return.
 

Deathhorse

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If i have 5 children and can only get a credit on 3 of them. Can i give their information to a grand parent?
 

CPA

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If i have 5 children and can only get a credit on 3 of them. Can i give their information to a grand parent?

No, unless those other two are living with the grandparents and they provide more than 50% of their support.
 

Lotheron

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Do you think you will be better off than the table you can use? I saved my receipts one year, but found the effort and time was considerable compared to the difference between my actual sales tax and the tables. I just use the tables now.

I just added them up and let the tax software calculate the difference and it was like $50. I didn't know going into it what the difference would be so I didn't know how much to expect. Like you, this will probably be the last time I do it.

On a side note, because of this deduction, I have to wait until 2-14 before the IRS will accept my return
 

piasabird

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I had a problem E-filing year before last. I got this message that someone else had used my wife's SSN. This was a bummer, because I then had to manually file my taxes by mail. I think it is a big ripoff. The IRS never sent me a response as to what happened to the other person who used one of our SSN.
 

Homerboy

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Are funds paid to a tutor deductible at all? Some sort of "education" deduction?

/me grasping at straws.
 

piasabird

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When you are computing your interest income, can charges for brokerage fees when you trade stock be claimed as a business expense? I am using Scottrade. I actually have 2 accounts one account is mine and it is a standard account and one account is my wife's and hers is a traditional IRA account. I have not printed out our statements yet.

We had some distributions we used to buy a car, so I dont know if we made enough up for the difference. So we might actually be at a loss. It was either take the money out or walk. We payed off the car instead of making payments/Interest.

My wife was out of work for about a year. Technically she retired at age 55 from Bank of America (Forced layoff/retirement). She just happened to be 55 when she was layed off. Rolled over retirement funds into an IRA. At least the Apple Stock is making money(if we had just purchased more apple stock).
 

EagleKeeper

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I just added them up and let the tax software calculate the difference and it was like $50. I didn't know going into it what the difference would be so I didn't know how much to expect. Like you, this will probably be the last time I do it.

On a side note, because of this deduction, I have to wait until 2-14 before the IRS will accept my return

Everything that I have heard is that the IRS will not be able to accept itemized returns until 14 Feb.

Therefore the usual 2 week turnaround electronic window may be expanded to 3 weeks until the backlog is settled out. This is a guess, but given the way the government is...
 

EagleKeeper

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I had a problem E-filing year before last. I got this message that someone else had used my wife's SSN. This was a bummer, because I then had to manually file my taxes by mail. I think it is a big ripoff. The IRS never sent me a response as to what happened to the other person who used one of our SSN.

And you will never find out - that is confidential between the IRS and the thief; not the victim.
 

EagleKeeper

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Are funds paid to a tutor deductible at all? Some sort of "education" deduction?

/me grasping at straws.

Much depends if the tutor was a replacement for a class - provided by the school or to help onself stay abreast.

You might be able claim it as educational expense on the 2106 though
 

EagleKeeper

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When you are computing your interest income, can charges for brokerage fees when you trade stock be claimed as a business expense? I am using Scottrade. I actually have 2 accounts one account is mine and it is a standard account and one account is my wife's and hers is a traditional IRA account. I have not printed out our statements yet.

We had some distributions we used to buy a car, so I dont know if we made enough up for the difference. So we might actually be at a loss. It was either take the money out or walk. We payed off the car instead of making payments/Interest.

My wife was out of work for about a year. Technically she retired at age 55 from Bank of America (Forced layoff/retirement). She just happened to be 55 when she was layed off. Rolled over retirement funds into an IRA. At least the Apple Stock is making money(if we had just purchased more apple stock).

Brokerage fees are expected to be used to calculate the cost basis price. Unless the brokerage is charging you to handle the interest payments.
 

piasabird

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My son went away to college and makes more than I do if you figure it per hour. It dont figure. I understand it because some nice college towns have a kind of a technology boom around them. It helps that he is more of a people person.

On stock if you hold it for one year it is a capital gain. If you hold it for less than a year it is counted as income. Did you try to print a statement for the end of the year from your online stock trading company or what? Usually they can give you a statement for dividends. Now if you have the stock in an IRA there are also repercussions of withdrawing funds from an IRA i.e. distributions. It is a little more complicated if you buy and sell the same stock repeatedly.
 

Homerboy

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I did some settlements on debts (CCs etc) that I know I have to report the difference over $650(?) as income. I assume I should get statements (1099?) from those places I settled with?
 
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