8th Grader shot by Police in Texas

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xj0hnx

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Was not a single cops suspicion arisen by the fact that from the call to their arrival not a single round was fired by the kid?
 
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Some kids just feel unnoticed and forgotten and want attention. When I was in HS my best friend killed himself and the school refused to acknowledge him or his death for fear that other kids would think that if they followed suit they'd get public recognition.

Why would someone care about public recognition if they are not even alive to receive it? Kids are fucking dumb lol
 

Macamus Prime

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"Why was so much excess force used on a minor?" he asked. "Three shots. Why not one that would bring him down?"

,... CUZ THIS HERE IS TEXAS!!! Yeeeeeeeeeeehhhaaaaaaawwwwww!!!
 
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Pellet guns are suppose to have an easily visible orange piece of plastic on the muzzle. If the kid removed this "safety" feature well then the cop had really no choice then to employ deadly force in this case. imo.

Now people will just put a orange piece of plactic around the muzzle of a real gun to fake out the cops to think its a toy gun. I think the guns themselves need to be crazy colors like neon green or something. The whole gun not just a little piece on the muzzle. That way the really stand out as being fake.
 

Zargon

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Was it that hard to trick an 8th grader to avoid killing him? Sometimes I wonder if an average cop has a brain bigger than a donut.



if he pointed it at the cops hes getting shot.

Its fing crazy when cops are executing children in school hallways, esp when he just has a pellet gun. Cops are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this w/o killing someone. A lot of kids are a bit mental at that age. You can't just shoot them in front of their classmates.

When people talk about big govt tyranny, this is the examples that come to my mind. Not only did they not resolve the situation without killing someones child, they scarred many of the other students there. Incompetance and cowardice of an 8th grader with a bb gun. Shameful.

it looked like a real gun, what do you want them to do?

Was not a single cops suspicion arisen by the fact that from the call to their arrival not a single round was fired by the kid?

why? maybe he wanted to just shoot cops? or hadnt found the kid he wanted to shoot?

from OP article:
The boy's father, Jaime Gonzalez Sr., called the shooting unjustified and said he had no idea where his son got the pellet gun.

"Why was so much excess force used on a minor?" he asked. "Three shots. Why not one that would bring him down?"

because you stop shooting when the hit the gound.....even the seals shot bin laden more than once.....
 

xj0hnx

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why? maybe he wanted to just shoot cops? or hadnt found the kid he wanted to shoot?

But yet didn't fire a shot.

because you stop shooting when the hit the gound.....even the seals shot bin laden more than once.....

LOL at comparing Navy SEAL's in a war zone raiding a compound of the worlds most notorious terrorist to cops shooting a 15 year old kid in school with pellet gun. Ok, it's not lol, it's pretty sad your mind could even draw that kind of parallel.
 

dabuddha

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Good riddance to the kid. Another stupid kid removed from the gene pool. If you're stupid enough to pull out a gun and aim it at a cop, well then it's time for you to go.
 

corwin

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But yet didn't fire a shot.
So now you should wait until a criminal shoots someone before you can kill them, makes perfect sense
You're not really in Texas, are you?
You don't really have a brain do you? This is not the first time nor will it be the last time some dumb ass points a realistic looking fake gun at someone and gets their ass shot off, in Texas or anywhere else
 

Macamus Prime

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you don't really have a brain do you? This is not the first time nor will it be the last time some dumb ass points a realistic looking fake gun at someone and gets their ass shot off, in texas or anywhere else

ya dun't mess wit texas!!!!
 

DucatiMonster696

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Was it that hard to trick an 8th grader to avoid killing him? Sometimes I wonder if an average cop has a brain bigger than a donut.

Because the cops woke up before heading to work with an urge to shoot a 13-14 year old kid right?

Then again not all middle-school kids are paragons of rational and sound decision making.

Edit: Then again can you explain to me how a police officer will "trick someone" into putting down a "Weapon" when they are in a agitated state? Maybe we should give all police officers this magical power of persuasion besides the repeated warnings and drawing of their own firearms in response to get this person to back down.
 
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spidey07

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Why did they use such excessive force? They should have just shot him in the leg or something. He didn't deserve to die. He was only 15 and it was a toy.

Ok, now that that is outta the way - good shoot and by the book. You point something that looks like a weapon and don't drop it after repeated orders to do so - you will be shot.
 

waggy

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how the fuck does anyone blame the cop? he had a kids with a gun pointed at him. Unless it was bright orange (wich i doubt) then he was justified.

nearly every pellet gun i have seen looks exactly like the real one. Some have minor details different but at a distance and in a heated moment that would be hard to tell.

the cops did what they had. I have no doubt all feel like shit when they found out it was a pellet gun. but no way in hell is it there fault.
 

Macamus Prime

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More specifically, 3 shots to someone pointing a gun at you is excessive? Only to people who think hollywood gunfights are realistic.

Yeah, Hollywood also fooled us all into thinking that bullets actually work on shoulders, thighs and limbs.
 

waggy

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Yeah, Hollywood also fooled us all into thinking that bullets actually work on shoulders, thighs and limbs.

and that in a high tension moment with other lives in danger a normal cop can hit a 8th grader in a way to put them down and not kill them.
 

bfdd

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Yeah, Hollywood also fooled us all into thinking that bullets actually work on shoulders, thighs and limbs.

having been in a situation where cops have seen a lot of fake guns that look very legitimate(used to be big into airsoft), you set them down they cannot tell the difference. they'd have no way of knowing it was just shooting bbs until it actually fired bbs. this kid is an idiot or he wanted to die. it sucks because there's probably a bigger underlying story and we haven't heard it yet or we won't ever.
 

Ausm

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Now people will just put a orange piece of plactic around the muzzle of a real gun to fake out the cops to think its a toy gun. I think the guns themselves need to be crazy colors like neon green or something. The whole gun not just a little piece on the muzzle. That way the really stand out as being fake.

Good point!
 

waggy

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having been in a situation where cops have seen a lot of fake guns that look very legitimate(used to be big into airsoft), you set them down they cannot tell the difference. they'd have no way of knowing it was just shooting bbs until it actually fired bbs. this kid is an idiot or he wanted to die. it sucks because there's probably a bigger underlying story and we haven't heard it yet or we won't ever.

another story said how the kid was a victim of bully's and brought the gun to scare them.

sad story all around. the kid died and the police that shot him have to live with the thought they killed him.
 

Macamus Prime

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and that in a high tension moment with other lives in danger a normal cop can hit a 8th grader in a way to put them down and not kill them.

High tension indeed, it must have been all the pools of blood and dead bodies the cops had to get through in order to reach the kid.
 

waggy

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Now people will just put a orange piece of plactic around the muzzle of a real gun to fake out the cops to think its a toy gun. I think the guns themselves need to be crazy colors like neon green or something. The whole gun not just a little piece on the muzzle. That way the really stand out as being fake.

yeah.

If you notice things like Nerf guns and other toy guns are like that. they are bright colors and oversized.
 
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