9/11 Conspiracy Proof *updated*

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DVad3r

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My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.
 
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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I don't really think there was any conspiracy to it, but then again after watching that, assuming it's not edited, kinda makes you wonder since it's an actual news clip (well it is fox news lol). But if there was an explosion there are multiple explainations:

1: Random freak unrelated explosion - total coincidence, unlikely, but possible

2: Gas leak (the fire department was actually dispatched there BEFORE the plane because there were reports of a gas leak, but no fire yet)

3: Terrorists prepared the building in advance with timer bombs. Most likely regular looking people acting as building inspectors or something.

But the conspiracies saying the goverment did it, yeahhhh suuuuure, the US goverment may be a bunch of crooks, but do you really think they want to kill their own people? If they did want to kill people they would not target a building that has a financial meaning to the country.
There were seismometers place in nearby locations around the WTC complex. An explosion prior to the plane hitting the towers would have registered. No such incident was recorded on the seismographs recording on that day. He may NOW believe that he heard an explosion before the plane hit, but there's nothing in the physical records to back up that claim, nor are there reports by the thousands of others that were in or around the WTC complex on that day to corroborate his claim.

It's funny how the CTs will latch onto anything someone says if it fits their narrative as if it's the absolute and final truth. They weed through thousands of informed, professional statements and opinions that don't fit their narrative and either ignore or dismiss them. But they'll glom onto a single statement - often incorrectly repeated, embellished, taken out of context, or just downright bastardized - then loudly proclaim they have proof of their conspiracy because some janitor said so. It's lunacy at its absolute finest.
 

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.

Translation: Your dad has an idiot friend.

Seriously, I'm starting to think that all these truthers are actually just making these claims for laughs, is 4chan secretly behind all this or something?
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel

But the conspiracies saying the goverment did it, yeahhhh suuuuure, the US goverment may be a bunch of crooks, but do you really think they want to kill their own people? If they did want to kill people they would not target a building that has a financial meaning to the country.


unfortunately, they do. plans kept secret for four decades

So, your proof that the US gov't must have successfully pulled off a huge conspiracy is that they FAILED to do so in the past?

Not proof, or even evidence really, but it certainly addresses the motive question.

exactly. proof of an inside job for 9/11? no.

proof of motive and proof of conspiring against america in the past? yes.

Well to be fair, the military has created numerous plans for a wide range of events, all secret plots that really kind of covers every base.
Now while that plan linked is quite frightful, there is the difference that in the case of 9/11, a notorious terrorist organization that has attacked us before, fully claimed that they carried out the 9/11 attacks.

And while the government may have done some shifty things (unknowingly, or knowingly) to get us into Iraq, there was no good reason to go after the Taliban and al-Qaida, as Afghanistan offers us nothing but trouble.
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DVad3r
My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.

Translation: Your dad has an idiot friend.

Seriously, I'm starting to think that all these truthers are actually just making these claims for laughs, is 4chan secretly behind all this or something?

What are you talking about, my dads friend has a crazy high IQ and is a retired General. Respect your superiors son.

 

PottedMeat

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: nkgreen
Originally posted by: DVad3r
My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.

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actually i know for a fact that dreamworks did all the cgi for 9-11. there were no airplanes.

Back in the day the feds would have gone to Industrial Light and Magic. It's sad how far George Lucas has fallen; he's been reduced to raping Indiana Jones in seedy bars.
 

So

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DVad3r
My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.

Translation: Your dad has an idiot friend.

Seriously, I'm starting to think that all these truthers are actually just making these claims for laughs, is 4chan secretly behind all this or something?

What are you talking about, my dads friend has a crazy high IQ and is a retired General. Respect your superiors son.

Your fallacious argument from authority doesn't make him any less of an idiot.
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DVad3r
My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.

Translation: Your dad has an idiot friend.

Seriously, I'm starting to think that all these truthers are actually just making these claims for laughs, is 4chan secretly behind all this or something?

What are you talking about, my dads friend has a crazy high IQ and is a retired General. Respect your superiors son.

Your fallacious argument from authority doesn't make him any less of an idiot.

What are you some kind of special agent? Your authority does not extend to Canada sir! Like I say to everyone else, watch more CNN

 

So

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DVad3r
My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.

Translation: Your dad has an idiot friend.

Seriously, I'm starting to think that all these truthers are actually just making these claims for laughs, is 4chan secretly behind all this or something?

What are you talking about, my dads friend has a crazy high IQ and is a retired General. Respect your superiors son.

Your fallacious argument from authority doesn't make him any less of an idiot.

What are you some kind of special agent? Your authority does not extend to Canada sir! Like I say to everyone else, watch more CNN

I'm the kind of person who doesn't assume that others are magically right just because they hold a certain title, ESPECIALLY when their extraordinary claim is not backed up by extraordinary evidence.
 
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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DVad3r
My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.

Translation: Your dad has an idiot friend.

Seriously, I'm starting to think that all these truthers are actually just making these claims for laughs, is 4chan secretly behind all this or something?

What are you talking about, my dads friend has a crazy high IQ and is a retired General. Respect your superiors son.

Respect is earned, not granted because of age. Your dad's friend is an idiot.
 

amish

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel

But the conspiracies saying the goverment did it, yeahhhh suuuuure, the US goverment may be a bunch of crooks, but do you really think they want to kill their own people? If they did want to kill people they would not target a building that has a financial meaning to the country.


unfortunately, they do. plans kept secret for four decades

i don't see anywhere where it states that Operation Northwoods would kill a US citizen or ally.

operation northwoods

all plans involved drones or empty vessels.
 

DVad3r

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. You have stated your opinions. I have stated mine. Goodbye Calling me names and being negative won't help your cause, I'm not the enemy. Just because you are a proud American and believe strongly, I can't blame you. I'm someone who is not from here, my judgement and life experieces lead me to other conclusions. I don't want to offend you, but your mind is a bit clouded. Just like Luke Skywalker's while training with Master Yoda.
 

SampSon

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DVad3r
My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.

Translation: Your dad has an idiot friend.

Seriously, I'm starting to think that all these truthers are actually just making these claims for laughs, is 4chan secretly behind all this or something?

What are you talking about, my dads friend has a crazy high IQ and is a retired General. Respect your superiors son.
Proof the military will let anyone in.


 

SparkyJJO

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: DVad3r
My dads friend is a pilot he said the planes were remote controlled military props.

Translation: Your dad has an idiot friend.

Seriously, I'm starting to think that all these truthers are actually just making these claims for laughs, is 4chan secretly behind all this or something?

What are you talking about, my dads friend has a crazy high IQ and is a retired General. Respect your superiors son.

There are people with crazy high IQs that still hold really retarded opinions too.
 

DVad3r

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I like how you guys take all my sarcastic / amusing comments seriously. I honestly don't know what his IQ is, I just said that because I know people would get roiled up by it. You guys gotta take a chill pill.

Seems more fire needs to be added to this oven, so question:

How come a lot of Jewish people did not show up for work that day?

Hmmmmm
 

Pacfanweb

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What a bunch of crap. So this guy is the ONLY person who heard this, out of the THOUSANDS who were in and around the WTC that day?

Give it up....there was and is NO conspiracy. It is absolutely impossible for there to have been one.....too many people would have been involved.

It was a random act of terrorism by Al Quaeda. Nothing more.
 

SparkyJJO

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
What a bunch of crap. So this guy is the ONLY person who heard this, out of the THOUSANDS who were in and around the WTC that day?

Give it up....there was and is NO conspiracy. It is absolutely impossible for there to have been one.....too many people would have been involved.

It was a planned act of terrorism by Al Quaeda. Nothing more.

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you don't really think that they woke up that morning and said "oh heck let's go ram some planes in some buildings today" do you?
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
What a bunch of crap. So this guy is the ONLY person who heard this, out of the THOUSANDS who were in and around the WTC that day?

Give it up....there was and is NO conspiracy. It is absolutely impossible for there to have been one.....too many people would have been involved.

It was a planned act of terrorism by Al Quaeda. Nothing more.

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you don't really think that they woke up that morning and said "oh heck let's go ram some planes in some buildings today" do you?
Oh, not at all, but in the grand scheme of things, the attacks in hindsight were pretty random.

It's not like we had lots of warnings beforehand, and had been in negotiations, like when the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor.
 
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Originally posted by: DVad3r
I like how you guys take all my sarcastic / amusing comments seriously. I honestly don't know what his IQ is, I just said that because I know people would get roiled up by it. You guys gotta take a chill pill.

Seems more fire needs to be added to this oven, so question:

How come a lot of Jewish people did not show up for work that day?

Hmmmmm

Ah, yes, the I'm making an idiot of myself so I was actually just joking defense.

...Calling me names...

They weren't calling you names, they were calling your dad's friend an idiot. For you talking about other people getting worked up, you're sure guilty yourself.
 
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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
What a bunch of crap. So this guy is the ONLY person who heard this, out of the THOUSANDS who were in and around the WTC that day?

Give it up....there was and is NO conspiracy. It is absolutely impossible for there to have been one.....too many people would have been involved.

It was a planned act of terrorism by Al Quaeda. Nothing more.

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you don't really think that they woke up that morning and said "oh heck let's go ram some planes in some buildings today" do you?
Oh, not at all, but in the grand scheme of things, the attacks in hindsight were pretty random.

It's not like we had lots of warnings beforehand, and had been in negotiations, like when the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor.

Well, actually we did. That was one of the big issues, they were aware something big was being planned, but it got brushed aside by some. This is why I think its so foolish to think it was a conspiracy, they knew about Al Queda back when Clinton was in office (some have actually tried to say that Clinton was to blame for 9/11 since he didn't order Osama Bin Laden taken out when they knew exactly where he was).
 

DVad3r

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: DVad3r
I like how you guys take all my sarcastic / amusing comments seriously. I honestly don't know what his IQ is, I just said that because I know people would get roiled up by it. You guys gotta take a chill pill.

Seems more fire needs to be added to this oven, so question:

How come a lot of Jewish people did not show up for work that day?

Hmmmmm

Ah, yes, the I'm making an idiot of myself so I was actually just joking defense.

...Calling me names...

They weren't calling you names, they were calling your dad's friend an idiot. For you talking about other people getting worked up, you're sure guilty yourself.

I find it even funnier that you don't believe me. Ill say it again in case you missed it.

I was joking.

How dumb do you feel now? Don't feel bad though, I like you, I like everyone, Im a people person.

 
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