9/11 Conspiracy Proof *updated*

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: trance247
Please answer me how does a plane hits Pentagon without being blasted out of the sky? This is to me is main conspiracy

are you familiar with DC at all???

the pentagon is less than a mile away from the national airport. kind of hard to react to planes when they regularly have flight paths right around the pentagon.

Not to mention I don't think there are that many readily available surface to air missiles just waiting to be launched at any ole plane. And lets not figure in the fact that just blasting a plane then sends a shower of flaming tons of steel uncontrollably crashing down on the city below.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
I'm just waiting for what the non-believers say. This is pure hard evidence on top of everything else that proves the story we have been told by our government is full of lies.

Oral testimony = hard evidence?

yes you can just say "He did it" and that will be enough to convict a man in a court of law... jeez. This IS America man.

 

[Desturel]

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: trance247
Please answer me how does a plane hits Pentagon without being blasted out of the sky? This is to me is main conspiracy

are you familiar with DC at all???

the pentagon is less than a mile away from the national airport. kind of hard to react to planes when they regularly have flight paths right around the pentagon.

Google Maps.

Reagan National is below the GW Memorial Parkway. The Pentagon is right above 395. People who don't live in DC/Maryland/North VA sure have strange ideas about the Pentagon.

 

[Desturel]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
And lets not figure in the fact that just blasting a plane then sends a shower of flaming tons of steel uncontrollably crashing down on the city below.

Bah, that's just Crystal City. No one cares about that area anyway.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

You guys are absolutely hopeless. 6 pages and all you are doing is bashing my character and making fun of one stupid spelling error. Don't even take in to consideration that the man WAS FUCKING THERE, or the fact that the 9/11 commission did not include his testimony in their final report. He is not the only one that has spoken about explosions in the basement. Many other fire fighters, survivors, and people in the area have reported hearing the same explosions before the plane hit.

Lets face it...if the government wasn't so shady about the whole fiasco then there wouldn't be conspiracy theories surrounding it.

100's of cameras are placed around the pentagon....yet they release a slideshow POS recording in which you cant even make out the plane.

Building 7 was said to have collapse due to fires. Sorry, maybe I would believe that if the whole building was engulfed in flames from the inside out. A couple windows with flames spewing out is not enough to bring down a building. Plus the fact that building 7 looks like a complete demolition is simply going to raise questions from people that don't automatically accept everything our government says as truth.

 

[Ns1]

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[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: ultra laser
How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

WTC 7 was constructed over a power substation which was designed to support a much smaller building. In order to construct WTC7, the engineers relied on a complicated system of load-bearing beams within the building. Falling debris, which did massive amounts of damage to the building, started local fires which quickly spread due to combustible materials the presence of fuel tanks to supply the backup generators. These fires, which are easily seem in photos raged for nearly six hours, dramatically weakening the building and eventually causing the load-bearing beams to collapse.

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: Bulk Beef

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: noto12ious
see sig.

the us government is innocent i tell you.

lawlz.

You = EPIC FAIL

the coverups in sig = fail.

well then again, they did fool you. :laugh:

You know Alex Jones is completely whacked out of his skull, right?

alex jones is in my sig somewhere? news to me.

alex jones, the man who warned of attacks on america 6 weeks before 9/11.

wow, guess he was dead on eh.

The tin foil hat must be affecting your reading comprehension.

You = EPIC FAIL

uh oh, look at him now. he started name calling. guess that refutes the proof in my sig.

time to go home. :laugh:

The tinfoil hat must be affecting your ability to distinguish name calling.

The fact that You = EPIC FAIL refutes anything you say, including your sig.

Indeed, time for you to go home to your tinfoil wrapped basement.

you make no sense.

but let's use your logic. the fact that YOU=EPIC FAIL proves everything in my sig is right

next.

 

[CraKaJaX]

"I see your lips moving, but I can't make out the words you be sayin'!"

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: ultra laser
How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

WTC 7 was constructed over a power substation which was designed to support a much smaller building. In order to construct WTC7, the engineers relied on a complicated system of load-bearing beams within the building. Falling debris, which did massive amounts of damage to the building, started local fires which quickly spread due to combustible materials the presence of fuel tanks to supply the backup generators. These fires, which are easily seem in photos raged for nearly six hours, dramatically weakening the building and eventually causing the load-bearing beams to collapse.

See Text

 

[allisolm]

Topic Title: 9/11 Conspiracy Proof
Topic Summary: 100% bullshit

Fixed that for you.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
You guys are absolutely hopeless. 6 pages and all you are doing is bashing my character and making fun of one stupid spelling error. Don't even take in to consideration that the man WAS FUCKING THERE, or the fact that the 9/11 commission did not include his testimony in their final report. He is not the only one that has spoken about explosions in the basement. Many other fire fighters, survivors, and people in the area have reported hearing the same explosions before the plane hit.

Lets face it...if the government wasn't so shady about the whole fiasco then there wouldn't be conspiracy theories surrounding it.

100's of cameras are placed around the pentagon....yet they release they release a slideshow POS recording in which you cant even make out the plane.

Building 7 was said to have collapse due to fires. Sorry, maybe I would believe that if the whole building was engulfed in flames from the inside out. A couple windows with flames spewing out is not enough to bring down a building. Plus the fact that building 7 looks like a complete demolition is simply going to raise questions from people that don't automatically accept everything our government says as truth.

See my post. Furthermore, this post makes it clear you have no idea what you're talking about. ESPECIALLY the bolded parts.

 

[Doboji]

Will this ever end... We saw planes hit the buildings... I saw them... you saw them... I have friends who saw the plane hit the pentagon... I worked at the pentagon afterwards and talked to many many folks who also saw it happen...

Terrorists attacked our country... We didnt blow up our own buildings.

/thread

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: noto12ious
you make no sense.

but let's use your logic. the fact that YOU=EPIC FAIL proves everything in my sig is right

next.

Tinfoil cutting off circulation to your brain? You've been proven wrong for EVERY post you have made on this forum. The only time you post is for this conspiracy bullshit. You are a fucking joke and EPIC FAIL.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: trance247
Please answer me how does a plane hits Pentagon without being blasted out of the sky? This is to me is main conspiracy

Nobody in the United States was prepared for an internal hijacking aimed at destroying buildings like the Pentagon. NORAD and other military operations were well-prepared for incoming missiles and / or planes from outside the United States.

What is going to "blast it out of the sky?" The hijackers weren't dumb. They turned off the transponder beacons in the planes, making it extremely difficult for the FAA to locate them (nearly 4,000 aircraft were in the air at the time). Usually during a hijacking the goal is to get everyone off the plane alive and the assumption used to be that those onboard would make demands -- not use the plane as a missile to destroy buildings. Therefore, it was very unclear how to proceed. The intentions of the initial hijackers weren't known until they slammed the planes into the WTC -- something that was an inconceivable outcome.

NORAD kept a very small number of aircraft ready to roll across the country and these aircraft were situated in areas designed to intercept incoming planes or missiles from external sources. I believe that on 9/11, there were fourteen aircraft on standby across the US. The idea that planes can be "scrambled" in a heartbeat is a product of Hollywood, not reality.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: Desturel

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: trance247
Please answer me how does a plane hits Pentagon without being blasted out of the sky? This is to me is main conspiracy

are you familiar with DC at all???

the pentagon is less than a mile away from the national airport. kind of hard to react to planes when they regularly have flight paths right around the pentagon.

Google Maps.

Reagan National is below the GW Memorial Parkway. The Pentagon is right above 395. People who don't live in DC/Maryland/North VA sure have strange ideas about the Pentagon.

Regardless of the distance... I have personally stood in the Pentagon courtyard and watched commercial planes pass overhead. So yeah...

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: ultra laser
How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

WTC 7 was constructed over a power substation which was designed to support a much smaller building. In order to construct WTC7, the engineers relied on a complicated system of load-bearing beams within the building. Falling debris, which did massive amounts of damage to the building, started local fires which quickly spread due to combustible materials the presence of fuel tanks to supply the backup generators. These fires, which are easily seem in photos raged for nearly six hours, dramatically weakening the building and eventually causing the load-bearing beams to collapse.

Building 7 was over a football field away from the towers. It was also separated from the North Tower by Building 6 and Vesey Street. This "massive amounts of damage" must not of been that massive considering that the building looked absolutely fine minus the parts with a small fire.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: ultra laser
How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

WTC 7 was constructed over a power substation which was designed to support a much smaller building. In order to construct WTC7, the engineers relied on a complicated system of load-bearing beams within the building. Falling debris, which did massive amounts of damage to the building, started local fires which quickly spread due to combustible materials the presence of fuel tanks to supply the backup generators. These fires, which are easily seem in photos raged for nearly six hours, dramatically weakening the building and eventually causing the load-bearing beams to collapse.

See Text

Yeah, that's the thread. I think I nearly wrote a dissertation in that baby trying to show how the buildings came down and why explosives weren't part of the equation.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: ultra laser
How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

WTC 7 was constructed over a power substation which was designed to support a much smaller building. In order to construct WTC7, the engineers relied on a complicated system of load-bearing beams within the building. Falling debris, which did massive amounts of damage to the building, started local fires which quickly spread due to combustible materials the presence of fuel tanks to supply the backup generators. These fires, which are easily seem in photos raged for nearly six hours, dramatically weakening the building and eventually causing the load-bearing beams to collapse.

Bullshit, your response reeks of intelligence.

I heard from Rosie O'Donnell that it must have been Bush. Tell me why he didn't respond when I shouted this question at him? Huh, huh, see.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: ultra laser
How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

It didn't implode, it collapsed. It collapsed because of falling debris that caused fires and those fires eventually weakened the structure enough to cause it to collapse.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: ultra laser
How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

WTC 7 was constructed over a power substation which was designed to support a much smaller building. In order to construct WTC7, the engineers relied on a complicated system of load-bearing beams within the building. Falling debris, which did massive amounts of damage to the building, started local fires which quickly spread due to combustible materials the presence of fuel tanks to supply the backup generators. These fires, which are easily seem in photos raged for nearly six hours, dramatically weakening the building and eventually causing the load-bearing beams to collapse.

Building 7 was over a football field away from the towers. It was also separated from the North Tower by Building 6 and Vesey Street. This "massive amounts of damage" must not of been that massive considering that the building looked absolutely fine minus the parts with a small fire.

No significant damage....riiiiiiiiight

You seem to believe that it's impossible for a building bigger than a house to burn down. WTF? Why do you think big cities have fire departments then, because of union contracts?

You sir, are either willfully ignorant or an idiot. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but stop spewing lumpy brown lies, please.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Squisher

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: ultra laser
How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

WTC 7 was constructed over a power substation which was designed to support a much smaller building. In order to construct WTC7, the engineers relied on a complicated system of load-bearing beams within the building. Falling debris, which did massive amounts of damage to the building, started local fires which quickly spread due to combustible materials the presence of fuel tanks to supply the backup generators. These fires, which are easily seem in photos raged for nearly six hours, dramatically weakening the building and eventually causing the load-bearing beams to collapse.

Bullshit, your response reeks of intelligence.

I heard from Rosie O'Donnell that it must have been Bush. Tell me why he didn't respond when I shouted this question at him? Huh, huh, see.

Who did [sink the titanic]? The government? That guy I mentioned earlier? Atheists? We may never know, but until there's proof they didn't do it, I'm convinced they did.

Damn, there are a lot of typos in my first response

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: ultra laser
How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

WTC 7 was constructed over a power substation which was designed to support a much smaller building. In order to construct WTC7, the engineers relied on a complicated system of load-bearing beams within the building. Falling debris, which did massive amounts of damage to the building, started local fires which quickly spread due to combustible materials the presence of fuel tanks to supply the backup generators. These fires, which are easily seem in photos raged for nearly six hours, dramatically weakening the building and eventually causing the load-bearing beams to collapse.

Building 7 was over a football field away from the towers. It was also separated from the North Tower by Building 6 and Vesey Street. This "massive amounts of damage" must not of been that massive considering that the building looked absolutely fine minus the parts with a small fire.

No fire huh?
http://img466.imageshack.us/im.../8326/wtc7smoke4oo.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/assets..._images/db_Magnum1.jpg
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/WTC7MoreSmoke.jpg

No damage?
http://judi.kw.nl/uploads/fok/wtc7-sw-corner1.jpg

A football field away so saved from any debris damage?
http://tyrannyalert.com/Wtc7_collapse_damage.jpg

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
You guys are absolutely hopeless. 6 pages and all you are doing is bashing my character and making fun of one stupid spelling error. Don't even take in to consideration that the man WAS FUCKING THERE, or the fact that the 9/11 commission did not include his testimony in their final report. He is not the only one that has spoken about explosions in the basement. Many other fire fighters, survivors, and people in the area have reported hearing the same explosions before the plane hit.

Lets face it...if the government wasn't so shady about the whole fiasco then there wouldn't be conspiracy theories surrounding it.

100's of cameras are placed around the pentagon....yet they release they release a slideshow POS recording in which you cant even make out the plane.

Building 7 was said to have collapse due to fires. Sorry, maybe I would believe that if the whole building was engulfed in flames from the inside out. A couple windows with flames spewing out is not enough to bring down a building. Plus the fact that building 7 looks like a complete demolition is simply going to raise questions from people that don't automatically accept everything our government says as truth.

See my post. Furthermore, this post makes it clear you have no idea what you're talking about. ESPECIALLY the bolded parts.

Actually what you described in your post is a close minded person such as yourself. You people can't fathom anything outside your 9-5 monotonous lives. You just want to feel safe and cuddle up to that big guy you call government. You are the same idiots that willingly accepted the Patriot Act without even thinking twice about it.

 

[Squisher]

I want a law that says whenever conspiracy nuts start a thread that no one responds.

Let's pretend they are a bunch of mentally challenged people sitting together at a table in the cafeteria and we are sitting try to eat our lunches without staring, because we know as soon as one of them sees that they have our attention that they'll start to act up more.