Originally posted by: DVad3r
Seems more fire needs to be added to this oven, so question:
How come a lot of Jewish people did not show up for work that day?
Hmmmmm
Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
You guys are absolutely hopeless. 6 pages and all you are doing is bashing my character and making fun of one stupid spelling error. Don't even take in to consideration that the man WAS FUCKING THERE, or the fact that the 9/11 commission did not include his testimony in their final report. He is not the only one that has spoken about explosions in the basement. Many other fire fighters, survivors, and people in the area have reported hearing the same explosions before the plane hit.
Lets face it...if the government wasn't so shady about the whole fiasco then there wouldn't be conspiracy theories surrounding it.
100's of cameras are placed around the pentagon....yet they release they release a slideshow POS recording in which you cant even make out the plane.
Building 7 was said to have collapse due to fires. Sorry, maybe I would believe that if the whole building was engulfed in flames from the inside out. A couple windows with flames spewing out is not enough to bring down a building. Plus the fact that building 7 looks like a complete demolition is simply going to raise questions from people that don't automatically accept everything our government says as truth.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Seems more fire needs to be added to this oven, so question:
How come a lot of Jewish people did not show up for work that day?
Hmmmmm
Woah.....
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Seems more fire needs to be added to this oven, so question:
How come a lot of Jewish people did not show up for work that day?
Hmmmmm
Woah.....
http://img378.imageshack.us/im.../12112295051931ww8.jpg ?
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: DVad3r
I like how you guys take all my sarcastic / amusing comments seriously. I honestly don't know what his IQ is, I just said that because I know people would get roiled up by it. You guys gotta take a chill pill.
Seems more fire needs to be added to this oven, so question:
How come a lot of Jewish people did not show up for work that day?
Hmmmmm
Ah, yes, the I'm making an idiot of myself so I was actually just joking defense.
...Calling me names...
They weren't calling you names, they were calling your dad's friend an idiot. For you talking about other people getting worked up, you're sure guilty yourself.
I find it even funnier that you don't believe me. Ill say it again in case you missed it.
I was joking.
How dumb do you feel now? Don't feel bad though, I like you, I like everyone, Im a people person.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Seems more fire needs to be added to this oven, so question:
How come a lot of Jewish people did not show up for work that day?
Hmmmmm
Woah.....
http://img378.imageshack.us/im.../12112295051931ww8.jpg ?
LOL that is awful.
Originally posted by: Kenji4861
I'm a believer that 911 is more than what is reported.
But I'm suspicious about Larry Silverstein which made billions on the attack.
Originally posted by: amish
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
But the conspiracies saying the goverment did it, yeahhhh suuuuure, the US goverment may be a bunch of crooks, but do you really think they want to kill their own people? If they did want to kill people they would not target a building that has a financial meaning to the country.
unfortunately, they do. plans kept secret for four decades
i don't see anywhere where it states that Operation Northwoods would kill a US citizen or ally.
operation northwoods
all plans involved drones or empty vessels.
America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.
Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof ? that the fault lies with the Communists et all Cuba [sic]."
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Cherry, that's the only true Kool-Aid. (I was going to say fruit punch, but sadly they don't sell that flavor in North America)Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Red. It's red Kool-Aid.Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
I just came in to see what flavor of kool-aid was being served....
Cheery, Berry or Strawberry?
There really is a big difference....hey whats that almond smell?
Originally posted by: noto12ious
did you really use wikipedia? :laugh:
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Seems more fire needs to be added to this oven, so question:
How come a lot of Jewish people did not show up for work that day?
Hmmmmm
Woah.....
http://img378.imageshack.us/im.../12112295051931ww8.jpg ?
LOL that is awful.
ROFL, I'm dying!
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: noto12ious
did you really use wikipedia? :laugh:
You don't believe wiki but you believe every conspiracy theory out there. Has there ever been a conspiracy you didn't believe in?
Fucking moron!!
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: amish
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
But the conspiracies saying the goverment did it, yeahhhh suuuuure, the US goverment may be a bunch of crooks, but do you really think they want to kill their own people? If they did want to kill people they would not target a building that has a financial meaning to the country.
unfortunately, they do. plans kept secret for four decades
i don't see anywhere where it states that Operation Northwoods would kill a US citizen or ally.
operation northwoods
all plans involved drones or empty vessels.
huh?
America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.
Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof ? that the fault lies with the Communists et all Cuba [sic]."
did you really use wikipedia? :laugh:
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: noto12ious
did you really use wikipedia? :laugh:
You don't believe wiki but you believe every conspiracy theory out there. Has there ever been a conspiracy you didn't believe in?
Fucking moron!!
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: noto12ious
did you really use wikipedia? :laugh:
You don't believe wiki but you believe every conspiracy theory out there. Has there ever been a conspiracy you didn't believe in?
Fucking moron!!
the article itself and northwoods documents stated the joint chiefs wanted to kill americans. yet he claims otherwise by linking to wiki, which is edited by anyone?
ok.
why are you such a "fucking moron", number1? :laugh:
also, i don't believe in every conspiracy out there. stop lying you mentioning youtube is another pathetic (yet expected) dodge attempt from the facts
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: amish
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
But the conspiracies saying the goverment did it, yeahhhh suuuuure, the US goverment may be a bunch of crooks, but do you really think they want to kill their own people? If they did want to kill people they would not target a building that has a financial meaning to the country.
unfortunately, they do. plans kept secret for four decades
i don't see anywhere where it states that Operation Northwoods would kill a US citizen or ally.
operation northwoods
all plans involved drones or empty vessels.
huh?
America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.
Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof ? that the fault lies with the Communists et all Cuba [sic]."
did you really use wikipedia? :laugh:
b. We could blow up a drone (unmanned) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presence of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago would add credibility especially to those people that might have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could follow up with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existent crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.
Operation Dirty Trick, a plot to blame Castro if the 1962 Mercury manned space flight carrying John Glenn crashed, saying
"The objective is to provide irrevocable proof that, should the MERCURY manned orbit flight fail, the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic]." It continues, "This to be accomplished by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans."
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
What a bunch of crap. So this guy is the ONLY person who heard this, out of the THOUSANDS who were in and around the WTC that day?
Give it up....there was and is NO conspiracy. It is absolutely impossible for there to have been one.....too many people would have been involved.
It was a random act of terrorism by Al Quaeda. Nothing more.
Originally posted by: amish
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: amish
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
But the conspiracies saying the goverment did it, yeahhhh suuuuure, the US goverment may be a bunch of crooks, but do you really think they want to kill their own people? If they did want to kill people they would not target a building that has a financial meaning to the country.
unfortunately, they do. plans kept secret for four decades
i don't see anywhere where it states that Operation Northwoods would kill a US citizen or ally.
operation northwoods
all plans involved drones or empty vessels.
huh?
America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.
Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof ? that the fault lies with the Communists et all Cuba [sic]."
did you really use wikipedia? :laugh:
oh, ha ha. you think using wiki is the dumb thing to do? just because it has the ability to be changed does not mean that the references are untrue. if you look at the very bottom of the article i linked, under references, it has a pdf of the Northwoods document. HERE IS THE PDF. i read the pdf and wiki has a facsimile of exactly what is stated, but in a better legible format. nice try.
also, i'm not going to let you get away with cherry picking an article. bullet point 3. (b) is the item in question. if we read the full point:
b. We could blow up a drone (unmanned) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presence of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago would add credibility especially to those people that might have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could follow up with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existent crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.
i've taken the liberty of bolding the really important parts.
next, on the matter of glenn. lets once again quote the entire piece.
Operation Dirty Trick, a plot to blame Castro if the 1962 Mercury manned space flight carrying John Glenn crashed, saying
"The objective is to provide irrevocable proof that, should the MERCURY manned orbit flight fail, the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic]." It continues, "This to be accomplished by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans."
you seem to have left out some key words in your argument. IF the mercury project were to end in disaster the US government would have used the opportunity to bring down cuba and save face at the same time. nowhere does it state that they would kill glenn on purpose to bring down cuba.
Originally posted by: amish
goddamn it. its been over 15 minutes since my last post and i haven't gotten props yet for proving someone wrong on the internet. WTF this is bullshit and unacceptable.
Originally posted by: Kev
It bothers me that I have to share oxygen with people who believe bullshit like this.
Originally posted by: Kenji4861
I'm a believer that 911 is more than what is reported.
But I'm suspicious about Larry Silverstein which made billions on the attack.