9/29 Google Press Event Discussion (Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X)

[sweenish]

The way you're talking, a Chromecast would be overkill, as well.

Just buy a $4 HMDI cable and a DisplayPort adapter that you keep plugged into your TV.

The way you're doing things currently, as infrequently as it is, sounds horrible. I'm not going to try and sell you on Plex, you obviously don't care for it. I'll only say that's it's dirt simple to set up and use.

Enjoy your hacked together, throw in middle-men approach. Whatever you find works for you. I just don't think you even need a Chromecast in this case.

 

[lothar]

6.0 expected devices.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Comp...ow-leaks-includes-Samsung-Sony-and-LG_id74400

I'd seriously take that chart with a grain of salt.
I doubt that the G2 and the Z1 would get Marshmallow.
I don't expect any phone released in 2013(besides Google Nexus 5 of course and maybe GPe devices...but I wouldn't hold my breath for those) to get Marshmallow updates. Yes, I have set the bar really low.

Here's a more credible list here that does not cite a "Chinese blog" as it's source:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...at-we-know-and-suspect-is-getting-the-update/

 

[podspi]

The way you're talking, a Chromecast would be overkill, as well.

Just buy a $4 HMDI cable and a DisplayPort adapter that you keep plugged into your TV.

The way you're doing things currently, as infrequently as it is, sounds horrible. I'm not going to try and sell you on Plex, you obviously don't care for it. I'll only say that's it's dirt simple to set up and use.

Enjoy your hacked together, throw in middle-men approach. Whatever you find works for you. I just don't think you even need a Chromecast in this case.

Assuming the videocast app works, I think that sounds perfect for him. I probably use my chromecast (1st gen) less than once a week, but when I do use it I am happy that I have it. It is so cheap it doesn't need to be something that is used every day.

 

[sweenish]

And Plex is free and eliminates steps from their current process.

So, yeah. I stand by my point.

Set up Plex one time, just choose from any device and cast whenever versus drag and drop and then use some app to cast EVERY TIME? And I assume we're deleting the copied file after? And we're seriously choosing that over a one time setup of a free program that eliminates all the middle steps and the cleanup?

Just buy the cable and adapter. Or keep not making your life easy. Whatever. It's their life. They can do basic things with as many unnecessary steps as they want.

I like the new Chromecast, it's not like I don't think it's a good buy.

But why not just buy a sports car and never go higher than second gear? It's acceptable to purposefully gimp a device's potential just because it's cheap, even when cheaper options will suffice? I mean, I get there are exceptions that arise from lack of real choice, but this is not one of them.

 

[blairharrington]

The way you're talking, a Chromecast would be overkill, as well.

Just buy a $4 HMDI cable and a DisplayPort adapter that you keep plugged into your TV.

The way you're doing things currently, as infrequently as it is, sounds horrible. I'm not going to try and sell you on Plex, you obviously don't care for it. I'll only say that's it's dirt simple to set up and use.

Enjoy your hacked together, throw in middle-men approach. Whatever you find works for you. I just don't think you even need a Chromecast in this case.

Seriously WTF with your response. I can't understand why you'd even write this bullshit.

Did you ever think that maybe I want to watch my films without wires? Jesus.

Millions of people buy Chromecast's to cast video to their TV's. But to you it's overkill? WTF man.

 

[blairharrington]

And Plex is free and eliminates steps from their current process.

So, yeah. I stand by my point.

Set up Plex one time, just choose from any device and cast whenever versus drag and drop and then use some app to cast EVERY TIME? And I assume we're deleting the copied file after? And we're seriously choosing that over a one time setup of a free program that eliminates all the middle steps and the cleanup?

Just buy the cable and adapter. Or keep not making your life easy. Whatever. It's their life. They can do basic things with as many unnecessary steps as they want.

I like the new Chromecast, it's not like I don't think it's a good buy.

But why not just buy a sports car and never go higher than second gear? It's acceptable to purposefully gimp a device's potential just because it's cheap, even when cheaper options will suffice? I mean, I get there are exceptions that arise from lack of real choice, but this is not one of them.

Honestly you sound like you have a mental illness.

 

[DCal430]

I'm a Mac user.

Chromecast seems to be my answer.

Hate to tell you but casting a movie from a PC or Mac using Chromcast isn't that great. The casting in 1080HD is still very much in Beta, there is no surround sound. The movie has to be controlled by the computer/mac so it needs to be in the same room as you are watching. At times the video can lag significantly. Remember you are playing the video in a web-browser and casting the browser screen to your TV.

 

[DCal430]

Seriously WTF with your response. I can't understand why you'd even write this bullshit.

Did you ever think that maybe I want to watch my films without wires? Jesus.

Millions of people buy Chromecast's to cast video to their TV's. But to you it's overkill? WTF man.

I don't think you understand what Chromcast was really is intended for. The feature you want to use is a recent add on, most people who bought Chromcast didn't buy it for this feature.

 

[MrSquished]

you guys keep this entertaining banter going. me, just am very very impatient to receive my 64gb Nexus P

 

[blairharrington]

I don't think you understand what Chromcast was really is intended for. The feature you want to use is a recent add on, most people who bought Chromcast didn't buy it for this feature.

I feel as if casting video has been a feature from Chromecast from the start.

 

[blairharrington]

Hate to tell you but casting a movie from a PC or Mac using Chromcast isn't that great. The casting in 1080HD is still very much in Beta, there is no surround sound. The movie has to be controlled by the computer/mac so it needs to be in the same room as you are watching. At times the video can lag significantly. Remember you are playing the video in a web-browser and casting the browser screen to your TV.

I don't need surround sound and my Mac would be in the same room regardless.

Obviously performance issues would be an issue. I have no idea if it will be an issue until I try it.

The alternative is to buy a used Apple TV, which I still might do.

 

[DCal430]

I feel as if casting video has been a feature from Chromecast from the start.

Oops you are right, I just never used it because it was limited to 720p until the late last year. If I have a 1080p video I am not going to watch it at 720p.

Casting in 720p is normally fine, it is Casting in 1080p that can cause issues. I don't like casting my video in 720 so I rarely use it.

 

[lopri]

Did it start to ship? I am looking forward to hear first-hand experiences. In-hand feel, camera, and how the S810 behaves, etc.

 

[sweenish]

Seriously WTF with your response. I can't understand why you'd even write this bullshit.

Did you ever think that maybe I want to watch my films without wires? Jesus.

Millions of people buy Chromecast's to cast video to their TV's. But to you it's overkill? WTF man.

I CAST VIDEOS EVERY DAY. Without wires. Yeah, it's like magic. I also don't have to drag and drop, then cast it, then delete. I just cast. And what's with your last paragraph? People buy them to cast videos, period. However, they don't do the crap you are. Adding extra steps that they don't need to. Just to cast a video. No, they set up their apps, and cast directly as opposed to making copies of files to cast and then delete.

Which is why I suggested the cables. It's cheaper and would be faster for your current method. But no, I have a mental illness (very poor form, going for the personal attack) for suggesting some money savings when it's become super obvious that the Chromecast would practically be wasted because you insist on continuing to act like you have wires everywhere with your making copies and casting copies and deleting copies.

I can't understand why you purposefully want to make your life so difficult.

So I guess we both can't believe why the other person thinks the way they do. The difference is I'm using a solution that is actually dead simple, while you absolutely refuse to let go of your old ways.

Because you're literally saying that Plex is overkill. Why pick a movie out of a list and cast directly when you can make a copy, then cast it, then delete the copy? Yeah, Plex is definitely overkill when you want to make things convoluted.

Like I said, do what you want. Enjoy your however many minutes of hype time while you copy videos over instead of just watching them.

Please note I've never insulted YOU, just your backwards way of wanting to watch movies. And honestly, I was never even that harsh.

 

[sweenish]

Oops you are right, I just never used it because it was limited to 720p until the late last year. If I have a 1080p video I am not going to watch it at 720p.

Casting in 720p is normally fine, it is Casting in 1080p that can cause issues. I don't like casting my video in 720 so I rarely use it.

This is also wrong. It's always cast at 1080p. Never had issues.

 

[blairharrington]

I CAST VIDEOS EVERY DAY. Without wires. Yeah, it's like magic. I also don't have to drag and drop, then cast it, then delete. I just cast. And what's with your last paragraph? People buy them to cast videos, period. However, they don't do the crap you are. Adding extra steps that they don't need to. Just to cast a video. No, they set up their apps, and cast directly as opposed to making copies of files to cast and then delete.

Which is why I suggested the cables. It's cheaper and would be faster for your current method. But no, I have a mental illness (very poor form, going for the personal attack) for suggesting some money savings when it's become super obvious that the Chromecast would practically be wasted because you insist on continuing to act like you have wires everywhere with your making copies and casting copies and deleting copies.

I can't understand why you purposefully want to make your life so difficult.

So I guess we both can't believe why the other person thinks the way they do. The difference is I'm using a solution that is actually dead simple, while you absolutely refuse to let go of your old ways.

Because you're literally saying that Plex is overkill. Why pick a movie out of a list and cast directly when you can make a copy, then cast it, then delete the copy? Yeah, Plex is definitely overkill when you want to make things convoluted.

Like I said, do what you want. Enjoy your however many minutes of hype time while you copy videos over instead of just watching them.

Please note I've never insulted YOU, just your backwards way of wanting to watch movies. And honestly, I was never even that harsh.

Please explain to me how I'm going to set up Plex and cast directly when my films reside on my external hard drive? I have no need to have my collection at my fingertips. I tend to watch DVR'd content first and then will look to my collection when it's empty. Or I will also look to my collection when I travel.

So you know I don't want to set up a system where my collection is available to me easily. I have no need for that. Yet you keep on insisting that I can use Plex without explaining how I'm going to access my collection to begin with.

Let's also make something crystal clear. Dragging a movie from my external onto my MBA takes less than a minute. So why are you making it such a huge deal???? I drag the file onto my MBA, cast or AirPlay, then delete the file. It's such a dead simple and quick process yet you keep writing it out like it's this complicated and time consuming venture.

So while I understand you suggestion I also think you need to chill the F out. Suggest something but don't go overboard which you absolutely are. Relax.

I'm not going to go the cheaper route. I don't care if it costs me more. Chromecast or a used Apple TV is not a pricey purchase for me.

 

[DCal430]

This is also wrong. It's always cast at 1080p. Never had issues.

WTF are you talking about. You obviously don't even have a Chromecast if you think it always cast 1080p.

Here is the article showing google releasing 1080p casting from tab. Tab casting is the only way to watch a video from a PC/Mac on a Chromcast without setting up a media sever such as plex. In fact casting local videos in 1080p is still beta and buggy too and the main Chromcast extension is still limited to 720p.


http://thenextweb.com/google/2014/0...-1080p-chrome-tab-casting-via-beta-extension/

Here is screen shot of the standard chromcast extension: Notice the lack of 1080p

Chromecast doesn't do local files in 1080p very well at all, the only real way to get decent 1080p support is through a decent media server such as plex.

 

[DCal430]

If you don't care about 1080p and only want to watch a movie here and there, then basic chromecast with the chromecast extension are fine. It gets the job done.

 

[Red Storm]

Tab casting is the only way to watch a video from a PC/Mac on a Chromcast without setting up a media sever such as plex.

You can use the Chrome extension Videostream to cast a local file to your Chromecast, and then you either control playback from your computer or you can have your Android device act as the remote with their app.

 

[DCal430]

You can use the Chrome extension Videostream to cast a local file to your Chromecast, and then you either control playback from your computer or you can have your Android device act as the remote with their app.

My bad you are right, you can. I thought videostream was just a media player and still required the chromecast extension. Guess not.

 

[Red Storm]

My bad you are right, you can. I thought videostream was just a media player and still required the chromecast extension. Guess not.

I haven't checked, but I think you still need Google's Chromecast extension installed as well.

 

[blairharrington]

You can use the Chrome extension Videostream to cast a local file to your Chromecast, and then you either control playback from your computer or you can have your Android device act as the remote with their app.

There is also an iOS app.

 

[A5]

Did it start to ship? I am looking forward to hear first-hand experiences. In-hand feel, camera, and how the S810 behaves, etc.

I think the earliest ship dates for the 6P are the last week of October (2 weeks). 5X may be next week, don't remember.

 

[Super56K]

Taking a bit of leap as I know of zero people in my area with Google Fi, but I'm going to trial some big changes:

- Replace vzw Moto X 2013 with Google Fi Nexus 5x. Placed the order last night after getting my invite.
- Monthly cell phone bill will drop from $55 on vzw to ~$22-24 + tax on Google Fi.

I'm on wifi 95%+ of the time. A lot of months I use less than 100mb of data, but a smartphone is still an important tool for me to have at my disposal. If the Google Fi cell service is a liability then my plan B is to use the Moto X 2013 on a Pageplus plan, which uses Verizon towers in my area.

I'm hopeful that Google Fi will work great as I'm on wifi nearly all the time, and cellular data speed is low on my priorities, but, either way, I'm done with Verizon. So, so ready to be done with them, and the rest of my immediate family intends on doing the same once their contracts are up.

 

[sweenish]

WTF are you talking about. You obviously don't even have a Chromecast if you think it always cast 1080p.

Here is the article showing google releasing 1080p casting from tab. Tab casting is the only way to watch a video from a PC/Mac on a Chromcast without setting up a media sever such as plex. In fact casting local videos in 1080p is still beta and buggy too and the main Chromcast extension is still limited to 720p.


http://thenextweb.com/google/2014/0...-1080p-chrome-tab-casting-via-beta-extension/

Here is screen shot of the standard chromcast extension: Notice the lack of 1080p

Chromecast doesn't do local files in 1080p very well at all, the only real way to get decent 1080p support is through a decent media server such as plex.

I own a Chromecast. Thanks for making all assumptions negative in my direction.

You then assume the general-language post must have been only describing the last ditch method of tab-casting and that's it the ONLY way Chromecasts get used, and act like it proves me wrong.

Poster didn't specify tab-casting. Who does that on a regular basis? And you proved me right as well. 1080p casting with Plex, Netflix, YouTube, ANY APP THAT CASTS, REALLY.