9/29 Google Press Event Discussion (Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X)

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sweenish

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Please explain to me how I'm going to set up Plex and cast directly when my films reside on my external hard drive? I have no need to have my collection at my fingertips. I tend to watch DVR'd content first and then will look to my collection when it's empty. Or I will also look to my collection when I travel.

So you know I don't want to set up a system where my collection is available to me easily. I have no need for that. Yet you keep on insisting that I can use Plex without explaining how I'm going to access my collection to begin with.

Let's also make something crystal clear. Dragging a movie from my external onto my MBA takes less than a minute. So why are you making it such a huge deal???? I drag the file onto my MBA, cast or AirPlay, then delete the file. It's such a dead simple and quick process yet you keep writing it out like it's this complicated and time consuming venture.

So while I understand you suggestion I also think you need to chill the F out. Suggest something but don't go overboard which you absolutely are. Relax.

I'm not going to go the cheaper route. I don't care if it costs me more. Chromecast or a used Apple TV is not a pricey purchase for me.

I did suggest something calmly. You were the one who called me mentally ill. I'm supposed to just take that lying down? And you're the one telling me to relax? That's a bit funny.

My entire Plex TV collection is on an external hard drive. What you're asking for is "How do I set up Plex?" Well, it's simple. I install Plex. I start Plex. I tell Plex what directories to look in for media. I create a free account. That last bit is optional. Now it's all available to me, anywhere I have an Internet connection.

I also don't see how dead-simple a thing can be when you're needlessly adding steps. It's the opposite of the definition of dead-simple. You're literally doing in three steps what I do in one.

Create a poll or something. Is copying a file, casting the copy, and then deleting the copy dead simple, or is casting the file dead simple?

But again, do what you want. I'm not the boss of you.
 

blairharrington

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And Plex is free and eliminates steps from their current process.

So, yeah. I stand by my point.

Set up Plex one time, just choose from any device and cast whenever versus drag and drop and then use some app to cast EVERY TIME? And I assume we're deleting the copied file after? And we're seriously choosing that over a one time setup of a free program that eliminates all the middle steps and the cleanup?

Just buy the cable and adapter. Or keep not making your life easy. Whatever. It's their life. They can do basic things with as many unnecessary steps as they want.

I like the new Chromecast, it's not like I don't think it's a good buy.

But why not just buy a sports car and never go higher than second gear? It's acceptable to purposefully gimp a device's potential just because it's cheap, even when cheaper options will suffice? I mean, I get there are exceptions that arise from lack of real choice, but this is not one of them.

This is not a calm response.
 

blairharrington

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I did suggest something calmly. You were the one who called me mentally ill. I'm supposed to just take that lying down? And you're the one telling me to relax? That's a bit funny.

My entire Plex TV collection is on an external hard drive. What you're asking for is "How do I set up Plex?" Well, it's simple. I install Plex. I start Plex. I tell Plex what directories to look in for media. I create a free account. That last bit is optional. Now it's all available to me, anywhere I have an Internet connection.

I also don't see how dead-simple a thing can be when you're needlessly adding steps. It's the opposite of the definition of dead-simple. You're literally doing in three steps what I do in one.

Create a poll or something. Is copying a file, casting the copy, and then deleting the copy dead simple, or is casting the file dead simple?

But again, do what you want. I'm not the boss of you.

And yet you fail to maybe take into account I don't want to keep my external hard drive attached to my MBA as the file is casting.

That's what's amazing about you. You seem to overlook the obvious. Hey, just use cables. Hey, just keep your external drive attached to your MBA as you cast.

Did you ever think I might not want want to do these things? I also can't believe you keep bringing up all the 'steps' I have to take with my way of doing things. Like these steps are time consuming. We are talking less than a minute to drag the file to the MBA. And 1 second to delete the file. And for some reason this is clearly much harder and an inferior way of doing things versus keeping my collection attached to my MBA, which I absolutely would not want to do to begin with.

I don't need to create a poll. Your suggestion does not appeal to me. My way of doing things is easier, despite the 'steps' it takes. Keep in mind I was doing this before with my MBA and Apple TV before I sold it. It's dead simple and not time consuming.
 

VashHT

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My 6P went from pre-ordered to pending yesterday, ordered a 128Gb frost one the night after the announcement. I hear they're going to start shipping next week but I'm hoping they send them this week sometime so I'll have it for halloween.
 

Trader05

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My 6P went from pre-ordered to pending yesterday, ordered a 128Gb frost one the night after the announcement. I hear they're going to start shipping next week but I'm hoping they send them this week sometime so I'll have it for halloween.

I'm still under preorder for my 6P 64gb Graphite and ships Nov 10-12 :/
 

VashHT

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I wouldn't worry too much, mine is scheduled for Nov 5-9 and just changed yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised if yours went to pending next weekend.

Anyways reading after reading that review I'm pretty excited for it, some of the pictures are a bit overblown but playing around with my nexus it looks like the stock google app doesn't have the best auto exposure to it, as far as I can tell it just does center weighted with no option to change it. the samsung camera app at least seemed to handle exposure much better so hopefully some 3rd party camera apps will fix that, or I'll just set it to -1 during the day or something.

Battery life seemed kind of mixed? Did well in WiFi browsing but not so great in Webgl, I guess due to the GPUs they use. Hopefully combined with doze they end up having good battery life overall.
 

VashHT

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Also FYI to anyone who wants a project fi invite they're instantly giving them out for 24 hours.
 

Capt Caveman

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Dumb question. I'm getting my Nexus 5x on Thursday. Am I able to backup my app data with Titanium Backup(or something else) on my Nexus 5 and be able to restore it on the 5x?

I know I also need to cut down my micro sim card to nano size for the 5x.
 

VashHT

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Dumb question. I'm getting my Nexus 5x on Thursday. Am I able to backup my app data with Titanium Backup(or something else) on my Nexus 5 and be able to restore it on the 5x?

I know I also need to cut down my micro sim card to nano size for the 5x.

Not sure about the backup, I would think Titanium would work fine but I haven't used it in a while since my Note 4 can't be rooted. I've found the google backup to work OK for me, but it won't backup SMS AFAIK. I'm not sure if the encrypted memory on the 5X will cause a problem with restoring from a backup, but I'm guessing people will find a way to work around it.

I've done the micro to nano sim a couple times (and nano to micro too), it's not really that bad, using a template and gluing it to the card is the easiest way. Just be careful because if you glue the paper on there then the extra thickness can be enough to get the card stuck.
 

Capt Caveman

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Not sure about the backup, I would think Titanium would work fine but I haven't used it in a while since my Note 4 can't be rooted. I've found the google backup to work OK for me, but it won't backup SMS AFAIK. I'm not sure if the encrypted memory on the 5X will cause a problem with restoring from a backup, but I'm guessing people will find a way to work around it.

I've done the micro to nano sim a couple times (and nano to micro too), it's not really that bad, using a template and gluing it to the card is the easiest way. Just be careful because if you glue the paper on there then the extra thickness can be enough to get the card stuck.

Thanks! I ordered a sim card cutter and some usb c adapters from Amazon and should get them on Thursday. Thought it would be the easiest way to cut the sim card without messing it up. Plus, it comes with a micro adapter.

I'm actually flying out of town on Friday morning, so I'll probably bring both phones and my Google backup will restore just about everything(use Hangouts for SMS) and worry about some app data after I get back that I'd like to transfer over to the 5X.

Surprised there aren't more usb c cables and adapters available. I believe the 5X comes with a single adapter with the usb c to c cable.
 

VashHT

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Yeah I bought a couple of USB A to C cables on Amazon but it looks like they've gone up in price and they still seem pretty pricey elsewhere. Cable Matters seems to have decent prices, I might pick up a USB C to C cable from them since the new PC I built actually has USB C on it.

You may want to check on the SMS backup for hangouts, I use SMS for hangouts as well and I don't believe it backed them up the last time I restored, I think it's only the hangouts instant messages that i backs up. That'd be great if it does SMS now though, kind of annoying to have to use a separate app for those.
 

gus6464

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My 6P 32GB is showing pending now. Wonder when it will be shipped? I got my chromecast audio 12 hours after it was shipped.
 

VashHT

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My order hasn't updated since it went pending, I'm supposed to get my 6P nov. 5-9 but I'm really hoping it comes before Halloween as that will give a great chance to test the camera. I'm sitting on a Fi invite as well, I'm almost definitely going to switch to it from ATT but I have to wait for the 6P to come first.
 

BW86

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Ordered a 32GB Aluminum Nexus 6P w/ Fi - Says it should be here between Nov. 19-23. Can't wait!
 

dawheat

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Rave reviews @AndroidHedlines:

N6P: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/10/featured-review-google-nexus-6p-2015.html

N5X: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/10/featured-review-google-nexus-5x.html

6.5 hrs. screen on time for the 6P and 8 hrs. for the 5X! Best implementation of S810 ever?

Feels bit too rah rah over the top compared to every other review I've read - even those saying it's the best overall Android phone you can get. Specifically no one else is getting close to the same "best ever" battery life and the camera seemed to be very good, but not quite up to the absolute best available today.
 

stlc8tr

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I see chatter about an efuse being included in the new devices. It will trip once the bootloader is unlocked. Hopefully Google will address this concern publicly soon.
 

Radeon962

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I see chatter about an efuse being included in the new devices. It will trip once the bootloader is unlocked. Hopefully Google will address this concern publicly soon.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/qfuse-n6p-t3229465
 
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