Originally posted by: ultra laser
They really should show a picture of the entire motherboard instead of just snippets. It's very annoying.
Originally posted by: Heidfirst
"This means they also retain Crossfire support via two PCI Express x16 slots (that work at x8). "
hmm, that's a glaring error ...
They also didn't pick up on why abit went to PCI LAN on the Pro whereas they use PCI-E on the IP35-E & IP35 ...
(to allow another PCI-E slot to remain active when the x16 & x4 are in use)
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
[Contrary to popular belief, the IP35-E is actually a more robust board than IP35 Pro. IP35 Pro strikes a balance between price plus bells and whistles. IP35-E is geared for maximum performance at the lowest cost. No RAID, 1394a, solid caps, and flashy heat pipe. The E's three separate heat sinks work exceptionally well with good case flow. A small 80mm fan positioned just above the RAM slot will provide adequate cooling for the RAMs, NB, and SB. Use the Big Typhoon and 120 x 38mm Panaflo to cool the CPU and MOSFET heat sink.
I haven't seen any evidence that the -E is more robust than the Pro - cheaper & on the same performance level, yes but more robust?Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Contrary to popular belief, the IP35-E is actually a more robust board than IP35 Pro.
Originally posted by: Heidfirst
I haven't seen any evidence that the -E is more robust than the Pro - cheaper & on the same performance level, yes but more robust?Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Contrary to popular belief, the IP35-E is actually a more robust board than IP35 Pro.
& if you need/want RAID, firewire, Crossfire or uGuru's features it's not really an option is it?
Originally posted by: Nickel020
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
[Contrary to popular belief, the IP35-E is actually a more robust board than IP35 Pro. IP35 Pro strikes a balance between price plus bells and whistles. IP35-E is geared for maximum performance at the lowest cost. No RAID, 1394a, solid caps, and flashy heat pipe. The E's three separate heat sinks work exceptionally well with good case flow. A small 80mm fan positioned just above the RAM slot will provide adequate cooling for the RAMs, NB, and SB. Use the Big Typhoon and 120 x 38mm Panaflo to cool the CPU and MOSFET heat sink.
Well I have found that the flashy heatpipes are actually a good thing, since the NB on my DS3 has reached 94° in BIOS after rebooting from overclocked testing in Orthos (this is without increasing the NBs voltage). My system was stable, but in a closed case the temp would be even higher and therefore i slapped a thermalright HR-05-IFX on the NB.
If the Pro BIOS is buggy based on the odd scrambled character then you can say the same of the IP35-E/IP35 for it's current double boot.Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
BIOS is buggy. I along with others (here and @ ABIT forum) have experienced flashing IP35 Pro BIOS screen during use. 1394a can be added for about $15. Guru = Bells and Whistles.
http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?t=126781
& how many people use them?Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Many powerful 120 x 38 mm fans come with just two pins. These are industrial grade fans.
Well, you could level those complaints against all the non-basic mobos from the other mfrs as well. My perfect board would probably be an IP35-E but with uGuru (I like it & I'm willing to pay a reasonable amount for it).My point is most people (including me) don't need the extra bells and whistles found on IP35 Pro. The price increase is way out of line when compared against IP35-E.
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Experienced PC overclockers rely on the Panaflos because they are quiet at low speed.