You sound exactly like myself.
The packaging is the issue. Usually you need to lube your arms up with Vaseline to do any work in a modern engine bay. That cell takes up a battery sized portion at least.
Interesting theory but the .gov won't "outlaw" existing cars. If this happened they'd just let them go away gracefully. Most people go to mechanics to get their oil changed and those that don't generally take the oil to be recycled (eventually). I doubt very much ends up in the water table because people are too damn lazy to recycle it - if they're that lazy they wouldn't be changing it themselves. I probably have 20 quarts of dirty oil in my garage but I do take it to the local trash dump, which has an oil recycle bin, about once a year.
I'm a car guy but I'd love to have this system, assuming it's able to do an effective job of not keeping a lot of dirty oil in the system. I would imagine that even if it did keep some, it would dissolve into the new clean oil enough that it would be negligible. I change the oil on two of my cars because I just don't like quickie oil change places (I find them a hassle, I hate waiting, and I hate trying to be upsold on every little item - just change my damn oil) but I certainly don't love getting under the car so if I could swap everything out in the AutoZone parking lot, that's be fabulous.
Seems like this will end up like DRM for cars. But you save 18 1/2 minutes every 10,000 miles, so you can get back to important things like looking at porn and cat pictures on reddit even faster.
Have a Fumoto on every recent car I've owned. Makes changes easy. Don't see how this could make it easier.
sounds like a terrible idea.
how does Fumoto fare against environment? Salt, dirt, snow and oil.
I don't think it make sense on my mini because it face down, maybe for my e46.
how does Fumoto fare against environment? Salt, dirt, snow and oil.
I don't think it make sense on my mini because it face down, maybe for my e46.
https://youtu.be/ZPflVUzVxJ8
Yeah, oil changes are easy. What's the big deal?
I do my filter @ 10K and my oil at 3,333 miles.
Do whatever you want.
I'm sure it is. That's half the point.
Meh, even if it was it's gonna be WAY more expensive than the traditional method and your locked into one brand, no thanks.
They won't get OEM adoption unless it's an open standard because there are laws that prevent the auto industry from blocking aftermarket parts. If all cars took the same oil/filter cartridge the economies of scale and competition could result in lower prices.
I can see this picking up with just the nature of the Oil change enviroment. I imagine that oil cell to be pretty expensive (packaged unit). I imagine people paying for a monthly plan from Jiffy/etc.
I also imagine a person like me hacking a f---- out of it and installing a oil drain plug. Then refilling the bitch with quarts of oil from the store...
A monthly plan? How often do you change your oil? If you're talking about essentially paying on installments then your financial plan isn't working.
I can't imagine it will be *that* expensive. It's a few quarts of oil and a filter in a box.
I can see this picking up with just the nature of the Oil change enviroment. I imagine that oil cell to be pretty expensive (packaged unit). I imagine people paying for a monthly plan from Jiffy/etc.
I also imagine a person like me hacking a f---- out of it and installing a oil drain plug. Then refilling the bitch with quarts of oil from the store...
As another guy mentioned... These are likely going to be tied into the computer and know when they have "X" amount of miles on them. They will be electrically keyed/coded just like printer ink modules.
I'm surprised Ford, GM, etc didn't jump on this years ago... A factory module that you are forced to buy at a premium over a regular change.
Sure, their will be hacks as you suggest, but with an integrated filter, your options for that are limited as they will make that filter molded right into the plastic housing.
Clearly you are reading some posts in the thread but you missed the references to this:As another guy mentioned... These are likely going to be tied into the computer and know when they have "X" amount of miles on them. They will be electrically keyed/coded just like printer ink modules.
I'm surprised Ford, GM, etc didn't jump on this years ago... A factory module that you are forced to buy at a premium over a regular change.
Sure, their will be hacks as you suggest, but with an integrated filter, your options for that are limited as they will make that filter molded right into the plastic housing.
Clearly you are reading some posts in the thread but you missed the references to this:
https://www.eff.org/cases/lexmark-v-static-control-case-archive
Lexmark lost a DMCA lawsuit against a generic cartridge maker mostly because of laws intended to prevent the automotive replacement parts industry from being controlled/manipulated by the vehicle manufacturers.
If they apply to printer cartridges scams then they certainly apply to the automotive parts trying to pull the same thing.
TL;DR:
Existing laws prevent automotive mfrs and their partners from behaving like printer mfrs. The same auto laws sometimes even prevent printer mfrs from behaving like printer mfrs.