90nm AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 3000+ & 3200+ Winchesters are shipping in the morning

[c627627]

The people who already got them say they overclock great, we'll find out more later this week about specifics.

 

[Bugler]

Can someone explain this please? Below is some of the information from Newegg's site. When describing the FSB specs, it describes as FSB: 2000 MHz System Bus for the 3000+ and 3200+ 90nm cpus. However, on the other 939 socket cpus, including the 90nm 3400+ cpu, they say FSB: Integrated into Chip.

What is the difference? If the FSB specs are different for 90nm cpus, how come the 3400+ does not list the same as the other two 90nm cpus?

Thanks


AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit 939-pin Processor - OEM

Model# ADA3000DIK4BI
Item # N82E16819103499

Specifications:
Model: AMD Athlon 64 3000+
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: 2000 MHz System Bus
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.4V
Socket: Socket 939
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)



AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit 939-pin Processor - OEM (limit 2 per customer)


- Specifications -

Model: AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz
FSB: 2000 MHz System Bus
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.4V
Socket: Socket 939
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)

Model#: ADA3200DIK4BI
Item#: N82E16819103500



AMD Athlon 64 3400+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit 939-pin Processor - OEM (limit 10 per customer)


- Specifications -

Model: AMD Athlon 64 3400+
Core: Newcastle
Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L2/512KB
Voltage: 1.5V
Socket: Socket 939
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)

Model#: ADA3400DEP4AZ
Item#: N82E16819103503
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[eVaoVe]

It's a mistake the 3000+ is 1.8Ghz and the 3200+ is 2.0Ghz

 

[c627627]

As I said in the earlier post I emailed them about the 3400+ and got this reply:

....Thank you for contacting us.

I will forward this information to the appropriate party. This information will be updated
within 24-48 hours.

Thank you, etc. etc.

 

[OCedHrt]

Not fixed at newegg yet But then, its the weekend. However, they should also add the core and process information

 

[c627627]

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=333534

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Zebo
My money is on these being crap overclcokers due to heat...otherwise why is the 2.6 FX-55 still a 130nm chip and they are only releasing these low speed ones?

Like the prescott if you can manange to cool them they will be good, otherwise, on air, your best bet is still skt 754 and the uber cheap chip 130nm which are clocking to 2500mhz on air trivially these days.

Proceed with caution, that's all I'm saying. dual channel does'nt get you much anyway and 90nm has proven uneventful in it's core tweeks from preliminary reviews ive seen...I'd much rather have raw Mhz.

You moron Zebo, never ASSume based on competing processors failures AMD is king after all.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Haha, its good to have sense of humor about yourself.

These chips look very interesting.

It doesn't seem that they have the enhancements to the core, but if they run noticeably cooler, then they should be pretty good overclockers, however, no guarantees (obviously).

I wish there were more nForce 3 250 socket 939 boards (I know nF4 is right around the corner, but I don't need PCI Express right now). I would go for that MSI board that AT raved about, but the layout just doesn't fit my setup at all (wire-placement, etc.). Right now the Abit K8T800 Pro 3rd Eye board looks nice, but I'm not a fan of VIA chipsets myself.

 

[c627627]

It took them less then 1 business day to remove it, that's not bad.

Originally posted by: c627627

Originally posted by: ViperV990
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=19-103-503&depa=1

email sent about their mistake on Socket 939 3400+ CPU at 5:16 central, (3:15pm Pacific.)

Let's see how long it takes them to correct it, shall we.

 

[Bugler]

No one answered my question.

Can someone explain this please? Below is some of the information from Newegg's site. When describing the FSB specs, it describes as FSB: 2000 MHz System Bus for the 3000+ and 3200+ 90nm cpus. However, on the other 939 socket cpus, including the 90nm 3400+ cpu, they say FSB: Integrated into Chip.

What is the difference? If the FSB specs are different for 90nm cpus, how come the 3400+ does not list the same as the other two 90nm cpus?

Also, not sure that Newegg fixed that much on their site. They are listing the 939 socket 3000+ at 2.0 ghz while AMD's site says it is 1.8ghz. Likewise on the 3200+, Newegg is indicating 2.2 ghz, while AMD's site states that the 939 version is 2.0 ghz.

 

[TimTheEnchanter25]

The FSB is intergrated into all the chips. I'm pretty sure that both the 90nm and the 130nm both run at the same FSB.

 

[Bugler]

Originally posted by: TimTheEnchanter25
The FSB is intergrated into all the chips. I'm pretty sure that both the 90nm and the 130nm both run at the same FSB.

I was thinking the same thing which is why I did not understand NewEgg's distinction.

NewEgg raised the prices of these processors since yesterday.

The 3000+ effectively raised $10, by newegg increasing the price from $169 and free shipping, to $175 and $4 shipping.

Similarly, the 3200+ went up $7 and shipping went up $4. Total increase, $11.

 

[c627627]

http://www.c627627.com/AMD/Athlon64/ is updated.


The 3400+ Socket 939 really exists as a 2.2 GHz chip with 512KB cache but it has 800 MHz HyperTransport while 3500+ has the standard 1000 MHz.


It's not strange that newegg sold out, it's strange that they don't show up with the standard newegg "out of stock, ETA xx/xx/xxxx" label.

They're still available at Monarch (inflated prices & all.) Nobody else except for Monarch had them as of 10/04.

 

[Zebo]

So no ones bought these yet???!?! WTF I have 4 comps all faster than beejesus I really don't need to play gunia pig with another...someones got to need a new setup besides just talking about it?

 

[Zebo]

Newegg took em' down.

 

[Robor]

I've got a .90 939 3200+ from Monarch. Waiting on my Gigabyte board to arrive. Does anyone know of the best HS/F combo for this? I was looking at Thermalright's XP-120 but heard it might not fit.

 

[edplayer]

another article about temps:

http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=610

 

[Bugler]

Originally posted by: Robor
I've got a .90 939 3200+ from Monarch. Waiting on my Gigabyte board to arrive. Does anyone know of the best HS/F combo for this? I was looking at Thermalright's XP-120 but heard it might not fit.

If it does not fit, you could consider the XP-90. It also has nice reviews.

Did you see if Gigabyte has forums so that you could ask people there if it fits on their boards?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Bugler
If it does not fit, you could consider the XP-90. It also has nice reviews.

Did you see if Gigabyte has forums so that you could ask people there if it fits on their boards?

I looked on the Thermalright page and they now have my motherboard listed as "not compatible" with the 120 version. The 90 version says they haven't found any motherboards that it doesn't fit so I went with it and the recommended 92mm Panaflo.

Thanks for the help!

 

[Bugler]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Bugler
If it does not fit, you could consider the XP-90. It also has nice reviews.

Did you see if Gigabyte has forums so that you could ask people there if it fits on their boards?

I looked on the Thermalright page and they now have my motherboard listed as "not compatible" with the 120 version. The 90 version says they haven't found any motherboards that it doesn't fit so I went with it and the recommended 92mm Panaflo.

Thanks for the help!

Good luck, let us know how it works out.

 

[c627627]

From: me
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:47 PM
To: newegg

Why are these links dead please, instead of saying "out of stock, ETA is..."

$169 FREEE SHIPPING 90nm 3000+ Athlon 64
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=19-103-499&depa=1

$218 FREEE SHIPPING 90nm 3200+ Athlon 64
http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=19-103-500&depa=1

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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 00:32:31 -0700
From: newegg
To: me

Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting Newegg,

If the item is no longer on our website it will be out of stock for more than two weeks.


.

 

[c627627]

They're back at newegg as of right now! (but with the expected price increase.)

 

[PcktRcktsAA]

weird, i mustve gotten my order in in time. fedex will be dropping it off tomorrow along with my MSI neo2 plat board

 

[Bugler]

Originally posted by: Emtarkanderundersgunderson
weird, i mustve gotten my order in in time. fedex will be dropping it off tomorrow along with my MSI neo2 plat board

When you get everything put together and do so testing, please post some info back on this thread so we can track some of those new 90ns. Thanks.

 

[PcktRcktsAA]

Originally posted by: Bugler

Originally posted by: Emtarkanderundersgunderson
weird, i mustve gotten my order in in time. fedex will be dropping it off tomorrow along with my MSI neo2 plat board

When you get everything put together and do so testing, please post some info back on this thread so we can track some of those new 90ns. Thanks.

well, unfortuantely, the rest of the stuff ill need to get the machine going wont be in until middle of next week, but will do.