911 or Tsunami

[rickn]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Mik3y
9/11 is nothing compared to the tsunami. just because 9/11 happened in american soil doesnt mean its worse or has a larger impact. it impacts us because WE were attacked. the tsunami impacts the entire world because over 100,000 people are perhaps dead just because it's natural.

9/11 changed the world forever in a different way than the tsunami. 9/11 was one of the most important events ever

How do you think Bush will be remembered in the history books? As a leader who handled 9/11 like a great leader should, or the liar who squandered american resources, our trust, and world opinion when he attacked Iraq?

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
The Tsunami killed around 120,000 people. 9/11 killed around 3000 people. How can you possibly say that 9/11 was worse? Is 1 American life now worth more than 50 lives from poorer countries? Frankly, then thought of this disgusts me. Now I know that most Americans don't think this way and are honest, decent people... But really this is the message I think America is conveying to the rest of the world.

Those 120,000 people didn't have the same influence on the world that those lost in 9/11 did (and the sh|tstorm that's followed because of it). THAT'S why 9/11 is a bigger loss to the world as a whole than 120,000 nobody's. I really don't intend to be mean here, and I know 120,000 dead is a catastrophic loss, but when you talk about what is going to have a bigger effect on the history of the world, there's just no sugar coating it.

I highly doubt 9/11 was as tragic for the rest of the world as it was for Americans.

Wasn't the UN capital in the World Trade Towers? How many companies in those buildings were making enough money to keep the economy going that lost EVERYTHING? The US economy took a dive. If you think 120,000 people that struggle to merely get by every day are worth more than a noticable impact to the world's economy, you're gravely mistaken.

no it was not. UN has a huge building all to its own

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: cmdrmoocow
Event itself? Tsunami was worse than 9/11.


Aftermath?
The aftermath of 9/11 has been far, far worse: few things beat giving the final push to limit American freedoms, to block travellers due to paranoia, and the spurring of the invasion of another country.

And it doesn't stop there. Who knows what's next....

u couldnt be more wrong. it woke America up and America started kicking terrorist ass

 

[stickybytes]

they are both catastrophic events but 9/11 has a much more immense impact on the entire world versus the tsunami which wrecks horrible havoc to only the immediate afflicted areas. 9/11 brought a new kind of a fear to americans as well as many other european nations.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Tsunami.

unlike what american media wants you to think, no other nation cared that much about it. same way we care about tsunami..

but 9/11 affected how many countries?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

the world changed forever on that day.

the world also changed forever when this natural disaster tragedy occurred, but both are completely different

eh? Most Europeans and Asians ceased caring about 9/11 3 years ago. That might be hard for Americans to imagine, but the impact was about as traumatic as how much we empathize with the Tsunami victims. Remember- it was daylight when 9/11 happened, so people on the other side of the Pacific were sleeping and never got to watch it unfold live like we did here. Economically, the stock market fell and recovered in a week as fast as it went down- we hardly felt it, and neither did anyone else.

 

[stickybytes]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Tsunami.

unlike what american media wants you to think, no other nation cared that much about it. same way we care about tsunami..

but 9/11 affected how many countries?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

the world changed forever on that day.

the world also changed forever when this natural disaster tragedy occurred, but both are completely different

eh? Most Europeans and Asians ceased caring about 9/11 3 years ago. That might be hard for Americans to imagine, but the impact was about as traumatic as how much we empathize with the Tsunami victims. Remember- it was daylight when 9/11 happened, so people on the other side of the Pacific were sleeping and never got to watch it unfold live like we did here. Economically, the stock market fell and recovered in a week as fast as it went down- we hardly felt it, and neither did anyone else.

i am quite certain that no matter how you watched it, live or not, the horror, shock and devastation that it instills will be just the same. just watch some video and you will see some people knowingly jumping to their deaths. how can any human, no matter the method or medium not be devastated on the inside?

 

[LordMorpheus]

i vote 911 for a couple reasons, the first being that it has caused all this crap in the middle east, which in total has probably killed more humans than the wave.

The second being that humans caused the 911 disaster . . . nature killing people happens, its unavoidable, but people killing each other . . . you know the world is just fscked up when that reaches such a large scale.

 

[SmoochyTX]

Does it matter? Both events are a tragedy.

:disgust:

 

[Miramonti]

The greatest tradgedies of the 21st century:

Tsunami>george w bush>911

And the distance between in global impact and innocent lives lost is staggering.

 

[cmdrmoocow]

Originally posted by: raildogg
u couldnt be more wrong. it woke America up and America started kicking terrorist ass

Whether or not it's justified or not belongs in the P&N. I'm just noting what has happened.

 

[syconub]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Going by death toll and destruction, of course the tsunami was the bigger disaster.

Which one is worse though? It gets kinda blurry. While 9/11 had a much smaller body count (but by no means small mind you), these people like you said were murdered. Natural disasters occur, like we have just seen. But they were not done on purpose. All of those people deaths were not planned out. Now I'm not trying to downplay the tsunami by any means, but I would consider 9/11 to be more horrific.

very true, except I think they are uncomparable.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: glugglug
Tsunami, no contest. BTW, it looks like the real death count, not even including disease, is over 500k -- 400k more from provinces in Indonesia they haven't communicated with which appear to have NO SURVIVORS from aerial surveillance.

Besides, 9/11 wasn't a disaster -- it went according to plan by our wonder gov't.

Tool, go back to P&N.

Anyway, you can't compare the two. Both are horrible.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: shimsham
all theses posts, and no ones brought the lawn chairs, popcorn, and beer?

So true. After reading through this whole thread, I find it kind of sad that everytime someone disagrees with a post and someone' point of view, the first reaction is to call names and hurl personal attacks. It seems no one can discuss things in a civilized manner anymore....it's all who can yell the loudest apparently.

 

[SmoochyTX]

Put it on it's simplest level.

It's impossible to compare or contrast one person's tragedy against another's. Your mother or their mother. Murder or natural occurance. Either way it hurts and doesn't seem fair.

A tragedy to you may not be a tragedy to someone else.

The only thing that can be agreed upon is that both of these events were tragedies.

 

[Mandos]

The tsunami obviously. 911 was stupid and puny. yes I'm american. Blow me

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: jumpr
One was an act of terrorism, which makes it lamentable, but jeez, death is death; I don't really think you can 'rank' disasters like that.

 

[asia]

Originally posted by: Mandos
The tsunami obviously. 911 was stupid and puny. yes I'm american. Blow me

Stupid and puny eh? Hmm wonder if you would think that if you were in the WTT's?

Idiot...

 

[Miramonti]

If you factor in how much more valuable American DNA is compared to the rest of the world, 3k American lives lost is perhaps equally or more significant to 400k people lost almost anywhere else.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: Babbles
Just to counter about how Americans don't care. Just now I was surfing news sites and both CNN, MSNbC and FoxNews have the tsunami headlining the front page but the BBC has something about celebrating New Years as the headline on the front page.

And we Amercians don't care??

that's because you are looking on the wrong page

the BBC news is on http://news.bbc.co.uk/

EDIT: and this is the most retarded thread ever

 

[silverpig]

9/11 cause of all the aftermath sh*t. And this is just the beginning. We're gonna be seeing aftermath for a long long time.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: glugglug
Tsunami, no contest. BTW, it looks like the real death count, not even including disease, is over 500k -- 400k more from provinces in Indonesia they haven't communicated with which appear to have NO SURVIVORS from aerial surveillance.

Besides, 9/11 wasn't a disaster -- it went according to plan by our wonder gov't.

You're a real piece of work, aren't you? You don't like our government, fine. That's your right (given to you ironically by the gov't). But to say that the US gov't murdered 3,000 people on 9/11?! Based on what? To claim that someone MURDERED 3,000 INNOCENT CIVILIANS without anything to back yourself up, other than you are nothing more than a fvcking tool. Go back to P&N, I'm sure you'd fit right into their ignorant little anti-EVERYTHING DEALING WITH THE US circle jerk they got going on. You just showed what a piece of sh!t you really are, joking or not.

:|:|:|




Go tell that to someone who lost a family member during those attacks. Fvckin troll.

 

[amol]

tsunami, HANDS DOWN

the death toll (at the moment) is 45x greater

plus, these poor people didnt have any warning

U.S. had warnings about 9/11, they just didnt take advantage of them

 

[ndee]

some of you guys are unbelieveable. Retarded bunch of idiots. (not all, mind you)

And Nik: King of Idiots.

 

[lavagirl669]

Originally posted by: Safeway
tsunami in death toll. 9/11 in impact.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: ndee
some of you guys are unbelieveable. Retarded bunch of idiots. (not all, mind you)

And Nik: King of Idiots.

What exactly makes me the "King of Idiots"?