95% of house democrats voted to decriminalize the devil's lettuce while 80% of republicans voted against

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ch33zw1z

Lifer
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That's a great idea. From small, indoor concerts I've gone to, too much secondary smoke from weed make me want to barf.

I agree here, people shouldn't have to put up with other people's bad habits. Plus, legalization means less offensive (and way less personally harmful) ways to ingest, which is a big reason Im for it.
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Wait...people in parts of the US are still allowed to smoke indoors other than private residences and Native American run casinos? I thought that went away years ago.
That's what I once thought.

 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Would Biden sign such a bill? IIRC he favors only decriminalization of possession, not full legalization.
 

Sunburn74

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I honestly don't understand the opposition. Even if you don't smoke weed, rational people must admit that the states that have legalized it didn't go head first into the apocalypse. The cost of putting people in jail to our country is way higher than the harms from recreational weed I would think.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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I honestly don't understand the opposition. Even if you don't smoke weed, rational people must admit that the states that have legalized it didn't go head first into the apocalypse. The cost of putting people in jail to our country is way higher than the harms from recreational weed I would think.

Something something purity test, something something obstructionist party.
 
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K1052

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Yeah, the one party that likes to talk shit about freedom but then gets upset when the other party actually tries to do something about it.

Living in Texas now, the land of maximum freedoms I am told, I have the liberty to not be able to buy off premise liquor on Sundays.
 

Moonbeam

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Drugs are dangerous. They can break psychological conditioning and ego defenses leading to the all sorts of panic and demonic hallucinations as the ego fights to remain in control. Of course on those occasions where the drug is powerful enough to slam right through the defenses and one is instead overwhelmed by an experience of oneness with the universe, the risk becomes an addiction to repeat the experience. That sadly won't happen automatically a second time because the desire for repetition is an ego wish and not the product of gift. The now is now. It isn't in the past.
 

snoopy7548

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Simpler:

"Weed bitches. I'm talking dank, sticky weed, cheap as a motherfker, delivered to your house, and popo can't do shit about it. Vote D."

Home delivery is coming to MA!

 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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I just can't stand the smell of a lit joint. Never have been able to.
If I ever wanted to try it, it'd have to use an edible.

And that's the thing, you don't know who is affected by what. I have a hard time with cigarettes. I'm very sensitive to it and can smell it pretty far away. Most brands make me sick, but some for whatever reason don't. I dunno which and don't care. MJ doesn't bother me, pipe tobacco hasn't, but cigs are pretty rough
 
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Living in Texas now, the land of maximum freedoms I am told, I have the liberty to not be able to buy off premise liquor on Sundays.

Jesus comes before liquor, don't you know?

Except beer from your local grocer, you can brown bag that and bring it when you go in for Church. Gotta pre-game before the big-football game after church.




EDIT: Actually, I lied there, forgot on Sundays beer/wine sales in grocery stores aren't legally allowed to be sold until Noon (after church?). Every other day you can buy beer/wine starting at 7AM or so.
 

K1052

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Jesus comes before liquor, don't you know?

Except beer from your local grocer, you can brown bag that and bring it when you go in for Church. Gotta pre-game before the big-football game after church.




EDIT: Actually, I lied there, forgot on Sundays beer/wine sales in grocery stores aren't legally allowed to be sold until Noon (after church?). Every other day you can buy beer/wine starting at 7AM or so.

I suppose I missed the chapter in the new testament about ABV rules and permissible hours of sale.
 
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Torn Mind

Lifer
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This bill is mostly about taking the federal government out of the "enforcement" picture and then retroactively giving clemency to basically anyone with a federal offense related to marijuana.

This is not synonymous with decriminalization in the other sense. This is where something is still illegal but the penalties are light and carries no jail time. Nor does it force states to "legalize" .

This is basically a cover-up bill for the federal government, as it basically allows both defendant and state to erase from posterity the very specific cases that led to the federal prosecution of someone for marijuana in the first place. As such, there can never be any further rational re-evaluations because the papers will be put to the shredder. There's already a paywall since courts charge money for copies.

Getting the feds involved in anything drug related usually means being involved in bigger fish than just your local dealer and supplier because those guys are small money for them and the state takes care of dealing with strictly local suppliers.

There are also other things, such as grant money, taxation, de-discrimination, etc.

Fanatics legislate on generalities. The reasoned mind looks at the details and takes to care evaluate the effect of every line passed into law.
I mean seriously, the amendment to take away the National Forest Service's authority is not going to be relevant to inner city black and brown people, but it will be very relevant for the isolated forest land that gets converted into marijuana agricultural sites because people in the know will want to make a buck at the expense of the environment in said forests.

Then again, this is a lame duck bill, so such things can be added in and no one cares because they don't bother to read the full text nor do the journalists highlight the entirety of the bill.
 

uallas5

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Allowed to? No... but pretty much any good concert will have some toking going on regardless of the law.
That makes sense, I haven't been to a club/medium size show in I don't know how long. Everything I see now a days is either in a bigger venue where they really crack down on smoking or in bars where they also really crack down on smoking because they don't want to lose their operating/liquor license.

Was in Vegas last year for a wedding last year and I couldn't believe the pot smoke outdoors on the strip. Normally I don't care having smoked plenty in my 20's (including the classic story of going to Amsterdam for the weekend and leaving 10 days later) but even for me it was obnoxious. Guess it was the main reason a bunch of the tourists were there.

Back on topic though, it's amazing how conservatives will ignore what the majority of people want, including themselves, just to be conservative I guess. That and it doesn't seem matter how many people in the GOP might agree with something, if it's seen as a "Liberal" cause or idea they want nothing to do with it. I'm a big fan of Nashville and go with family every year to the CMA Fest. You can't get anymore conservative than a country music fest but many performers have lyrics that talk about smoking ganja and have for years.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Why? To maintain a skeezy black market?

cuz reasons. we should just let the free market continue to be cash only because banks don't want to get involved with a federally illegal product. oh, and then stomp and scream about how dangerous a cash only business of substantial size is, because now it's a target for other crimes. 'Murica.
 
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K1052

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Why? To maintain a skeezy black market?

It is good for society to enjoy the mystery of if your'e going to have to smoke a bunch of stems with the THC content of yard waste or not.
 
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