9600 GT vs 8800 GT

[angry hampster]

Originally posted by: xColdSteelx
I bought the MSI for $199. It's sweet. It never gets above 55 under load. Idles around 40.

The tech report compared 8800s to 9600s.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14168

Christ look at how the 8800 and 9600 fall on their faces at 25x16 in COD4. really weird.

 

[wanderer27]

Originally posted by: angry hampster

Originally posted by: xColdSteelx
I bought the MSI for $199. It's sweet. It never gets above 55 under load. Idles around 40.

The tech report compared 8800s to 9600s.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14168

Christ look at how the 8800 and 9600 fall on their faces at 25x16 in COD4. really weird.

Yeah, it is.

And for the most part the single card solutions are beating out the SLI's

 

[razor2025]

I bought the PNY 9600GT for $163 after tax. It was no brainer for me, since 9600GT can handle any games @ 1920x1200 (my LCD's res) at high settings, save for Crysis. I didn't like Crysis too much when I played it on a store demo machine, so it doesn't mean much for me. I'd just get the cheapest option that runs the game at your goal settings, and only upgrade when the next-game is actually out (not simply speculating on "I need fastest thing to play it").

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: xColdSteelx
I bought the MSI for $199. It's sweet. It never gets above 55 under load. Idles around 40.

The tech report compared 8800s to 9600s.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14168

What kind of further OC have you been able to achieve with that cooler?

I'll be aiming for 700/2000.

I think I'm at 721/2021 right now. When I get home, I'll double check. I'm using rivatuner with the fan set at 40%

I may be off on these numbers but will clarify when i get home.

You confirm those numbers yet slag?

rivatuner pic

Memory could be tweaked a bit more.. core seems to be able to keep climbing, but im happy with the performance. After 45 mins of crysis, i'm @ 48-49 degrees celsius (checked tonight. Fan is @ 80% and super quiet.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: wanderer27

Originally posted by: angry hampster

Originally posted by: xColdSteelx
I bought the MSI for $199. It's sweet. It never gets above 55 under load. Idles around 40.

The tech report compared 8800s to 9600s.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14168

Christ look at how the 8800 and 9600 fall on their faces at 25x16 in COD4. really weird.

Yeah, it is.

And for the most part the single card solutions are beating out the SLI's

i wonder if its a ram/pcie bandwith issue. because SLI scales very well on 1920x1200 and lower on COD4

 

[jterrell]

The firing squad report showed overlclocked 9600's winning out over the 8800 GTs in DX10 games but lagging in DX9.

Their final conclusion... With the introduction of the GeForce 9600 GT, NVIDIA?s finally provided a compelling sub-$200 DirectX 10 graphics part. If you?re a gamer on a budget who craves the best performance in DX9 and DX10 games, the GeForce 9600 GT is the best card on the market right now.

http://www.firingsquad.com/har...performance/page16.asp

So be aware that may be the better option for many people going forward.


The 9600's run cooler and pull less power as well so it is pretty far from the slam dunk I keep seeing suggested.

 

[Donts00tmesanta]

an overclocked 9600gt can beat a 8800gt

 

[Piuc2020]

Originally posted by: kyubi
an overclocked 9600gt can beat a 8800gt

Not in every game, not by much and 8800GT's can be overclocked as well you know :roll:

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: Cheex

You confirm those numbers yet slag?

rivatuner pic

Memory could be tweaked a bit more.. core seems to be able to keep climbing, but im happy with the performance. After 45 mins of crysis, i'm @ 48-49 degrees celsius (checked tonight. Fan is @ 80% and super quiet.

That is very good!!

Since step-up isn't really an option for me in Jamaica, I don't have to stick to eVGA (although it is my preferred brand). If I end up getting an 8800GT, then the MSI Zilent is the one I'll be getting.

Great numbers slag!!

 

[taltamir]

nvidia and independant tests (done by members of the anandtech forum) have confirmed that the 9600GT is essentially the same as the 8800GT only with less stream processors and some new purevideo HD features (or rather, features that were incomplete and disabled).
If you use rivatuner to disable the extra SP, and set the clockspeeds the same, and use a modifed inf file to install them both with the same drivers, then it performs identically in the tests.

The reason why the 9600GT seems to keep up with the 8800GT is because it uses much newer drivers. Nvidia has made some significant driver side improvements which will affect ALL cards once the drivers are ready. But for now they are only available for the 9600GT (because the current WHQL drivers do not support it, so they just WHQLed the latest beta and called it the "first release" driver for the 9600GT and ONLY for the 9600GT). Those drivers seem to be stable on the GT, but people have reported blue screens and other issues if they install them with other hardware (lucky me I am running 174.16 just fine on my 8800GTS 512 on vista 64)

Some people claim it was done on purpose to make the 9600GT performance seem higher then it really is. But I say that is just conspiracy theorism right there, the fact that it causes various problems for people with other cards who force install it is a clear indication that the drivers are just not ready for mass consumption.. but who knows.

 

[Margalus]

Originally posted by: kyubi
an overclocked 9600gt can beat a 8800gt

an overclocked 8800gt can beat an overclocked 9600gt, what's your point?

 

[zach0624]

the msi nx8800 is a great card mine just came on thursday and I got to install it today. Plays WIC at 1680x1050 at high(dx10) no problems and very high(dx10) fine during the benchmark except during the carpet bombing. Also played the UT3 demo at max settings with buttery smooth frames (in vista, don't know if it is dx10 or not). I'm going to try Crysis tomorrow. also I think after mir it was 195 shipped. great upgrade from a 7900gs.

 

[BFG10K]

The reason why the 9600GT seems to keep up with the 8800GT is because it uses much newer drivers.

And it overclocks itself when the PCIe speed is increased.

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: zach0624
the msi nx8800 is a great card mine just came on thursday and I got to install it today. Plays WIC at 1680x1050 at high(dx10) no problems and very high(dx10) fine during the benchmark except during the carpet bombing. Also played the UT3 demo at max settings with buttery smooth frames (in vista, don't know if it is dx10 or not). I'm going to try Crysis tomorrow. also I think after mir it was 195 shipped. great upgrade from a 7900gs.

My Stock clocked 9600GT plays WiC @ 1680x1050 @ very high (DX9) with 16xAF and 4xAA enabled and it was $60 cheaper than an 8800.


But sod Crysis im not touchin it untill i can get 60fps with it maxed out.

 

[taltamir]

ah yes that too... the latest drivers, currently available only for the 9600GT activates link boost technology... where if you have a suiteable nvidia motherboard and video card then it will OC the PCIE bus AND the core speed will increase (as it is linked to the PCIE speed) without being measureable by GPU-Z at the moment.

 

[suburbia]

Originally posted by: zach0624
the msi nx8800 is a great card mine just came on thursday and I got to install it today. Plays WIC at 1680x1050 at high(dx10) no problems and very high(dx10) fine during the benchmark except during the carpet bombing. Also played the UT3 demo at max settings with buttery smooth frames (in vista, don't know if it is dx10 or not). I'm going to try Crysis tomorrow. also I think after mir it was 195 shipped. great upgrade from a 7900gs.

I was just at a lan cafe the other day... and i was curious on what kind of graphics cards they use. Come to find out they were using 7900gs and i just couldn't believe it because i stressed tested on css and i got 218fps.. that didn't seem right.. must have been the connection the cafe was using

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: suburbia

Originally posted by: zach0624
the msi nx8800 is a great card mine just came on thursday and I got to install it today. Plays WIC at 1680x1050 at high(dx10) no problems and very high(dx10) fine during the benchmark except during the carpet bombing. Also played the UT3 demo at max settings with buttery smooth frames (in vista, don't know if it is dx10 or not). I'm going to try Crysis tomorrow. also I think after mir it was 195 shipped. great upgrade from a 7900gs.

I was just at a lan cafe the other day... and i was curious on what kind of graphics cards they use. Come to find out they were using 7900gs and i just couldn't believe it because i stressed tested on css and i got 218fps.. that didn't seem right.. must have been the connection the cafe was using

Dude this thread is a year old, why don't you try looking at the dates before posting?

Also, welcome to AT.

 

[alcoholbob]

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[TurtleCrusher]

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[error8]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca


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