9600GT or 9600GSO?

[natty1]

which card performs better at 1920x1200?

 

[SneakyStuff]

THIS is a better deal in every way. But if for some reason you must choose between the two the 9600GT > GSO.

 

[Keysplayr]

At 1920x1200, you should stick with a minimum of 9800GTX+/HD4850 or even better, GTX260/HD4870. This of course depends on the
games you play. 1920x1200 is a bit tough for the 9600's unless you turn down some serious eye candy.

 

[natty1]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
At 1920x1200, you should stick with a minimum of 9800GTX+/HD4850 or even better, GTX260/HD4870. This of course depends on the
games you play. 1920x1200 is a bit tough for the 9600's unless you turn down some serious eye candy.

do you have any insight on the original question...

 

[Bill Kunert]

I would say the 9600GT mainly because of the greater amount of memory. If you were running at 12 X 10 there probably wouldn't be a great amount of difference.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: natty1

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
At 1920x1200, you should stick with a minimum of 9800GTX+/HD4850 or even better, GTX260/HD4870. This of course depends on the
games you play. 1920x1200 is a bit tough for the 9600's unless you turn down some serious eye candy.

do you have any insight on the original question...

No. I would not recommend either for 1920x1200 resolution. Out of the two, the GT is the better/faster card.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: natty1

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
At 1920x1200, you should stick with a minimum of 9800GTX+/HD4850 or even better, GTX260/HD4870. This of course depends on the
games you play. 1920x1200 is a bit tough for the 9600's unless you turn down some serious eye candy.

do you have any insight on the original question...

wow...keysplayr2003 is a focus group member. He has owned and tested tons of nvidia hardware, he can go talk to nvidia engineers about video card specs when he wants to, they give him free nvidia hardware but he still spends more on video cards than most normal people just because he likes to test them out, and he was nice enough to give you his professional opinion on this matter. go buy a geforce 2 gts and try out crysis on your 19x12 resolution.

edit: by the way, if you had done any homework then you would know that the 9600gso is simply a rebadged 8800gs. the 8800gs/9600gso has a 192 bit bus vs the 256 bit bus of 9600gt. it also only has 384 mb memory in most cases vs 512mb of the 9600gt. in case you were wondering, those bigger numbers associated with the 9600gt are a good thing. Having said that, they both completely suck at 19x12. Spend the extra $30 and follow sneakystuff's advice.

 

[natty1]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: natty1

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
At 1920x1200, you should stick with a minimum of 9800GTX+/HD4850 or even better, GTX260/HD4870. This of course depends on the
games you play. 1920x1200 is a bit tough for the 9600's unless you turn down some serious eye candy.

do you have any insight on the original question...

wow...keysplayr2003 is a focus group member. He has owned and tested tons of nvidia hardware, he can go talk to nvidia engineers about video card specs when he wants to, they give him free nvidia hardware but he still spends more on video cards than most normal people just because he likes to test them out, and he was nice enough to give you his professional opinion on this matter. go buy a geforce 2 gts and try out crysis on your 19x12 resolution.

edit: by the way, if you had done any homework then you would know that the 9600gso is simply a rebadged 8800gs. the 8800gs/9600gso has a 192 bit bus vs the 256 bit bus of 9600gt. it also only has 384 mb memory in most cases vs 512mb of the 9600gt. in case you were wondering, those bigger numbers associated with the 9600gt are a good thing. Having said that, they both completely suck at 19x12. Spend the extra $30 and follow sneakystuff's advice.

I know that better cards exist, that's not the point of the thread.....

 

[AzN]

With AA 9600gt wins. Without it 8800gs/9600gso wins. 9600gso does have little more horsepower once they are both overclocked.

@ 1920x1200. I would say it's a toss up since you will most likely not able to play with AA with either card but some games you can turn AA with 9600gt at that resolution a 9600gso will not because of memory limitations.

 

[Andrew1990]

my 9600GSO does a very good job at 1680x1050, but I am not sure if it would be able to do 1920x1200. Also, the 9600GSO is better than the GT is respects it has 50% more shaders although the bus width would make more of a difference at higher resolutions.

 

[bryanW1995]

why are we still talking about this? at 19x12, memory size and bus width trump everything else here.

 

[taltamir]

the point isn't that better cards exist, but that at the resolution you want those cards are inadequate.
You will have to stretch a 1680x1024 image to fit. Maybe lower, depending on the game.

the 9600GT is better. but it is over priced. the 8800GT 512MB is better then the 9600GT and costs less money. (simply because people are willing to pay more for a higher number, so companies charge more).

Oh and 512MB are a must at 1920x1200 resolution.

 

[natty1]

Originally posted by: taltamir
the 8800GT 512MB is better then the 9600GT and costs less money.

negative

there's a 9600GT on newegg for $95. can you show me an 8800GT for less than that?

 

[taltamir]

you know what, go ahead and order that one. I am done here.

 

[natty1]

nm

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: natty1

Originally posted by: taltamir
the 8800GT 512MB is better then the 9600GT and costs less money.

negative

there's a 9600GT on newegg for $95. can you show me an 8800GT for less than that?

newegg has had an 8800gt for $99 AR for a while. however, there's no way that the 8800gt is $4 better than 9600gt. I mean, just look at the numbers, 9600>8800, right? buy whatever you want, you've clearly already made up your mind anyway.

 

[natty1]

I'm not sure why some of you are being so anal. If you don't want to discuss 9600GT vs 9600GSO then maybe you should avoid the thread. And the guy who says 8800GT's are cheaper than 9600GT's is clueless.

 

[cmdrdredd]

It's not about being clueless. Look at it this way. The 8800gt is faster and costs only marginally more. Why not?

There's no reason to even buy the 9600gt knowing this. Especially when you're talking high resolutions.

 

[natty1]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
It's not about being clueless. Look at it this way. The 8800gt is faster and costs only marginally more. Why not?

There's no reason to even buy the 9600gt knowing this. Especially when you're talking high resolutions.

if you have a budget you can't just keep going up the GPU ladder.... this is a comparison of cards that go for less than $100, whereas 8800GT's on newegg have been hovering around $120

i dont factor in rebates

 

[Andrew1990]

Well,

9600GSO = Lower Resolutions with Higher Settings

9600GT = Higher Resolutions with Lower Settings


Basically the 9600GSO was made with more horsepower to crank the graphics options up, but doesnt have the memory bus to support higher resolutions with those higher settings. The 9600GT was given less horsepower, but has the memory bandwidth to display higher resolutions more efficiently.

Out of those TWO cards, the 9600GT would be overall better at that resolution although it will probably struggle. The 9600GT is put in between a rock and a hard place. It doesnt have the horsepower to have high settings at high resolutions, and at low resolutions the 9600GSO beats it with more shaders.

 

[AzN]

http://www.tweaktown.com/revie...s_top_384mb/index.html

This is with AA off. 384mb is just enough to play without AA off @ 1920x1200. It's that you need 512mb or more to have AA turned on at this resolution. Of course that would also depend on the game. With AA on 9600gt will stomp the gso or gs at that resolution because it has more bandwidth and more memory.

People have this misconception that memory bandwidth will win it out. That's not entirely true. Perhaps with AA it would but without it it helps but not as much as some people think. As you lower the resolution 8800gs/gso is clearly the better raw performer. 9600gt will easily out pace with AA though.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Well,

9600GSO = Lower Resolutions with Higher Settings

9600GT = Higher Resolutions with Lower Settings


Basically the 9600GSO was made with more horsepower to crank the graphics options up, but doesnt have the memory bus to support higher resolutions with those higher settings. The 9600GT was given less horsepower, but has the memory bandwidth to display higher resolutions more efficiently.

Out of those TWO cards, the 9600GT would be overall better at that resolution although it will probably struggle. The 9600GT is put in between a rock and a hard place. It doesnt have the horsepower to have high settings at high resolutions, and at low resolutions the 9600GSO beats it with more shaders.

about 6 mos ago azn, bfg, keys, and a few others had a LONG discussion about sp's. I believe that bfg during that discussion provided convincing evidence that sp's don't start to become a limiting factor until VERY HIGH resolutions.

 

[Andrew1990]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
about 6 mos ago azn, bfg, keys, and a few others had a LONG discussion about sp's. I believe that bfg during that discussion provided convincing evidence that sp's don't start to become a limiting factor until VERY HIGH resolutions.

Well if they proved that, then I guess my argument doesnt have as big of an impact that I thought. I need to learn more about SPs as I am still use to the Pixel Pipelines from the earlier video cards.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Azn
http://www.tweaktown.com/revie...s_top_384mb/index.html

This is with AA off. 384mb is just enough to play without AA off @ 1920x1200. It's that you need 512mb or more to have AA turned on at this resolution. Of course that would also depend on the game. With AA on 9600gt will stomp the gso or gs at that resolution because it has more bandwidth and more memory.

People have this misconception that memory bandwidth will win it out. That's not entirely true. Perhaps with AA it would but without it it helps but not as much as some people think. As you lower the resolution 8800gs/gso is clearly the better raw performer. 9600gt will easily out pace with AA though.

I believe we are talkin about 8800GT not GS

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: natty1

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
It's not about being clueless. Look at it this way. The 8800gt is faster and costs only marginally more. Why not?

There's no reason to even buy the 9600gt knowing this. Especially when you're talking high resolutions.

if you have a budget you can't just keep going up the GPU ladder.... this is a comparison of cards that go for less than $100, whereas 8800GT's on newegg have been hovering around $120

i dont factor in rebates

If $20 is a big deal, you should re-evaluate your position and perhaps not buy anything.

My opinion