9800 GTX OFFICIAL SPECS

[Hauk]

Having accepted that for now, high end means mid range cost with "old" high end performance, I'm moving ahead.

Before the price drop I paid $304 each for a couple G92 GTS's. I'll be stepping up to 9800 GTX's. I have a hunch the 9800 GTX is going to clock very well.

For those wondering about power, this graph looks realistic despite the choppy text translation.. 9800 GTX power requirements

 

[Obsoleet]

I never said the GX2 wasn't a rip off. I'm just saying what I said, they are milking the market with this sort of thing. If by stopgap you mean ripoff and old tech then I agree. In some ways it's inferior to the 8800GTX.

As far as the NV CEO, I can promise you his approach involves the bottom line more than you might be assuming. Any situation, even for a short while that pushes the "SLI upgrade option" (which is never a good option) is advantageous for their company and less advantageous for your wallet.
I don't care if you like Nvidia's "stopgap" solution, go ahead and buy one but what I said is pretty much the truth.

 

[dileepsv]

so wait...the 9800 GTX is better than the GX2 and it still costs only 349? wTff?

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: superbooga
Nvidia's CEO believes a single GPU is still the best approach for high-end graphics. Now the timing was right for the creation of the GX2, plus there was no single-GPU solution to compete against the 3870x2.

Lol, he believed that from when the 3870x2 was released all the way until the 9800GX2 was released. He only said it because there was nothing to compete with the 3870x2 at the time.

You think if the GX2 had already been released he would have said that? :roll:

 

[Tempered81]

9800 gtx at $430 here:
http://www.binaryplaza.com/pro...P3-N871-AR~~M004381420

8800 gtx can be had for 280 after coupons.


How does this bring 8800gtx performance at a lower cost? If you are comparing nov. 2006 8800gtx prices to april 2008 9800gtx prices, then you are right. However, that is not a favorable comparison.

I would like to see a 3x 8800ultra/gtx VS. 3x 9800gtx review.

If 9800 tri-sli costs $1200 and 8800 tri-sli costs $890, and the performance gap is like 2-5%....

It's a shame we can't play on a 384bit 1.5gb g92 (Wouldn't you think it would be available by now? LOL)

 

[sgrinavi]

Considering that I paid $309 for an 8800GT in Nov I am all over a 9800GTX for $40 more...

I'm in for 1..

 

[smithkt]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
9800 gtx at $430 here:
http://www.binaryplaza.com/pro...P3-N871-AR~~M004381420

8800 gtx can be had for 280 after coupons.


How does this bring 8800gtx performance at a lower cost? If you are comparing nov. 2006 8800gtx prices to april 2008 9800gtx prices, then you are right. However, that is not a favorable comparison.

I would like to see a 3x 8800ultra/gtx VS. 3x 9800gtx review.

If 9800 tri-sli costs $1200 and 8800 tri-sli costs $890, and the performance gap is like 2-5%....

It's a shame we can't play on a 384bit 1.5gb g92 (Wouldn't you think it would be available by now? LOL)

http://www.compsource.com/ttec...P2N845AR&vid=603&src=F

How about this one for $333. It's also listed as an EVGA board. The prices are all over the place right now. I don't put any faith in any of them being correct.

 

[Tempered81]

at $333 its very competitive with 280AR, since for a 8800gtx at 280, you have to do MIR's and coupons. This release & pricing model is all a ploy to sell more cards and nforce chipsets to build an exclusive customer base. If not they'd either release a beefier faster g92 (sli performance from 1 card, 1 gpu, on any mobo), or share triple pci-e support with intel & amd boards. Still think the lack of competition is horrible.

 

[Obsoleet]

Originally posted by: Lord Banshee

Also i am an anti-sli /crossfire person. The technology just seems a cheap way to get money for the companies. You have 2x the heat, 2x the noise, 2x the power, 2x the price, and only get 1.8 at most speed increase. And last time i checked the way these techs work the specific application has to be programed in the drivers which means not even fully 2x acceleration in all application just the ones the driver makers thinks will sell. (please correct any mistakes i have assumed about SLi/Crossfire).

Also, you pay for double the memory and get a single card's worth effectively. 2x 8800GTs in SLI = effective memory. Even if a game isn't memory limited, you're still paying for double the memory and getting stuck with less.
Not to mention in my semi-pro gaming experience, AA/AF causes a (very) slight lag effect even with the fastest VPU setups. I won't ever use AA/AF. The best solution is to buy whatever video card is the best deal (currently for single cards I like the simple 8800GT option) and if you need to, drop res. I run a 1920 panel and it's fine running different shooters at 1680 for example. Then in games like Eve Online I run 1920x1200. Unless you sit there and study IQ. Simply put, there's a difference between people who actually use their hardware to game, and people who obsess over spending money on a soon obsolete SLI setup.
When a game is moving along at blazing fast speeds it doesnt matter.. especially if you're getting destroyed like I suspect most SLI gamers with proprietary Nvidia rigs are used to.
So they sit around studying IQ and bragging about their wasted paychecks on forums like these. When the truth is, running out of native res even on LCDs isn't that big of a deal, but the people connected to these companies will try their hardest to get you to think everything to the contrary so you purchase and maintain multiple pieces of expensive hardware every year.

Originally posted by: Lord Banshee
Only single GPU's for me thanks

*edit*
but if the 9800GTX is = 8800Ultra and is only $350 i will buy one as it is still much faster than my current card.

I'm interested in the 9800GTX if it's really $350 or less. I'll at least take a good look at it and consider stepping up. Depends how much faster it is than my 8800GT.

 

[bamacre]

What is the difference between the power consumption of the 8800 GTX and 9800 GTX?

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: bamacre
What is the difference between the power consumption of the 8800 GTX and 9800 GTX?

Check OP...

 

[dileepsv]

i cant believe the whole 350 deal...i say its gona be a minimum of 450 when it hits the market regardless of all those stupid ad sites.. letz find out in a bit..

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: Rubycon
Why does the 9800GTX have only 512MB?

When I first heard that 9600 GT was a 512MB/256bit part, I thought 9800 GTX would be 1GB/512bit.

 

[lopri]

One thing that isn't mentioned often (but it's something that I don't like) is that it looks like the de facto length of high-end video cards is now 10.5". :disgust: 8800 GTX was the first offender but no one could complain about it because of its sheer power. Since then AMD followed the suit with 3870 X2, and now both 9800 GX2 and 9800 GTX are off the ATX standard. I don't know how others feel about this but I personally don't like a video card sticking outside the motherboard. Not all cases that comfort to ATX standard are able to house these long cards, either.

 

[andrei3333]

^ thats one of my biggest fears, and i like my case so why should i have to upgrade ?

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Originally posted by: lopri
One thing that isn't mentioned often (but it's something that I don't like) is that it looks like the de facto length of high-end video cards is now 10.5".

I didn't even know that. :shocked: Time to get out the measuring tape.

 

[Obsoleet]

Originally posted by: lopri

Originally posted by: Rubycon
Why does the 9800GTX have only 512MB?

When I first heard that 9600 GT was a 512MB/256bit part, I thought 9800 GTX would be 1GB/512bit.

We couldn't have that, it'd destroy their SLI configurations which conveniently accompany an SLI motherboard. We have an option for a "single" high end card and it includes all the pitfalls to SLI on a single card.

Originally posted by: Obsoleet

Originally posted by: Lord Banshee

Also i am an anti-sli /crossfire person. The technology just seems a cheap way to get money for the companies. You have 2x the heat, 2x the noise, 2x the power, 2x the price, and only get 1.8 at most speed increase. And last time i checked the way these techs work the specific application has to be programed in the drivers which means not even fully 2x acceleration in all application just the ones the driver makers thinks will sell. (please correct any mistakes i have assumed about SLi/Crossfire).

Also, you pay for double the memory and get a single card's worth effectively. 2x 8800GTs in SLI = effective memory. Even if a game isn't memory limited, you're still paying for double the memory and getting stuck with less.
Not to mention in my semi-pro gaming experience, AA/AF causes a (very) slight lag effect even with the fastest VPU setups. I won't ever use AA/AF. The best solution is to buy whatever video card is the best deal (currently for single cards I like the simple 8800GT option) and if you need to, drop res. I run a 1920 panel and it's fine running different shooters at 1680 for example. Then in games like Eve Online I run 1920x1200. Unless you sit there and study IQ. Simply put, there's a difference between people who actually use their hardware to game, and people who obsess over spending money on a soon obsolete SLI setup.
When a game is moving along at blazing fast speeds it doesnt matter.. especially if you're getting destroyed like I suspect most SLI gamers with proprietary Nvidia rigs are used to.
So they sit around studying IQ and bragging about their wasted paychecks on forums like these. When the truth is, running out of native res even on LCDs isn't that big of a deal, but the people connected to these companies will try their hardest to get you to think everything to the contrary so you purchase and maintain multiple pieces of expensive hardware every year.

I'd like to amend this for the record by adding that yet another SLI pitfall is no dual monitor support in SLI mode. :thumbsup:

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX

Originally posted by: lopri
One thing that isn't mentioned often (but it's something that I don't like) is that it looks like the de facto length of high-end video cards is now 10.5".

I didn't even know that. :shocked: Time to get out the measuring tape.

I SEE A CONFLICT:

Board length vs. 8800 GTX and the and the EVGA spec sheet I downloaded yesterday, which lists board length as 9in.

 

[lopri]

I thought the 9800 GTX was the same size as 8800 GTX. If it's 9" then the card won't stick outside the board (9.6"). At least one good news. Thank goodness. :thumbsup:

 

[Eomer of Aldburg]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020
Well you are not getting 2x the performance but you get 0.5x the price (and even less in some cases) so that means you can SLI them for 1x the price and get 2x the performance? Happy now?

Does anyone else not realize how incredibly inexpensive these cards are? It's amazing, if you need the extra horsepower, just SLI 9600GTs for $300!, these more accessible prices to SLI make it feel like a new generation altogether, while a 8800Ultra cost you 600-700 when it was released, a pair of SLI 8800GTs will run you around $400 and offer MUCH better performance. SLI 8800 Ultras were 1200 or so when they released, for $1200 you can now get Quad 9800GX2 which again, has much better performance (well potentially at least). $300 used to get you a 8800GTS 320MB, now for $300 you can get SLI 9600GTs. There is your 2x the performance for the same price.

I really FAIL to see where the drop in performance is, these generation has been one of my favorite, excellent cards for cheap prices that can run everything out there and have excellent variety in multi-gpu configurations.

Now I hope ATI releases R700 and it's really a worthwhile part (ATI just seems to have dropped the ball on everything nowadays) so that we get even better Single-GPU performance and prices go down even further. This is a good time to be a PC gamer.

Some of us dont have motherboards that support SLI. I'm running a 8800GTS 640 and I really fail to see a single card that is worthy of the cost of 2x my performance. The closest thing is probably a 9800GX 2 which is by far to expensive. Everything else is just 10-25% performance increase. SLI 9600's are a great for the price/performance but not for those who motherboard's don't support SLI. Hopefully ATI will pull together!

 

[imported_Champ]

Does anyone know if waterblocks from the 8800GTX or GTS 512 will work on this?

 

[TheDoc9]

We won't know until the reviews start hitting or someone wants to experiment. most reviewers probably won't even consider testing waterblocks on the hardware so I would also keep checking forums like these for reports from early adopters. If nothing else you'll know for sure within a month or two as the info will be more mainstream.

come to thing of it, I've been disapointed in the complete lack of information regaurding the 9800gtx, q9450, and even the x48 boards. Almost no availability or reviews for the last two and they were supposed to be released back in January! Release dates for everything keeps getting pushed back lately with little to no info, I've never actually seen this in the comp. industry before - but it's possible I've never followed i so closely until now.

EDIT: I would also recommend any overclocking review site like overclockersclub.

 

[Obsoleet]

What you'll see soon on forums is ranting about the power layout on this card and how great it is. Overclocking is nearly pointless on this card.

It has a 256bit memory interface. Overclock all day long, you still have a limit on the bandwidth that's making all the G92s perform essentially the same.
They clocked the card low to promote this "feature" because it's all Nvidia has here. The card stinks, pure and simple.

If they'd put a 384bit interface as it at least deserves, you'd see it beating the GX2. We can't have that.
Why not put a 384bit interface on this? Because keeping this gen slow (yet faster than ATI) is advantageous as it pushes the SLI option.

You won't see a 512bit interface till GT200 and so I say buy a single 8800GT today for $200 or less and wait this trash from Nvidia out.

 

[CVSiN]

Confirmed BFG version In stock at local frys at 349.. almost picked on up... I will be waiting for reviews.

Go get them guys..

Sugar land Texas if anyone cares.. at least 8 in stock.

also 3 flavors of 9600s in.

 

[bryanW1995]

I drive through sugarland twice a week (from victoria to tomball and then from tomball to victoria). too bad I have no time for gaming right now well, that and I want to wait for gt200/r700 before splurging again.