980ti Value

[tigersty1e]

So early adopters of the Titan and GTX 780 series got burned. The value of those cards dropped fast.

How long do you think the value of the 980ti will last?

Worth it to buy now?

 

[Majcric]

That is subjective and will depend on your needs. As with any card I don't think the value will last that long. Sometime next year the price drop will most likely come.

For me, it's still worth it because I consider it a cheap hobby vs....

 

[alcoholbob]

You mean used cards? I've seen them go for ~$570 on craigslist already.

I figure in 3-4 months you can pick them up for around $480-500 used.

Titan Xs dropped in value fast because they suck at double precision and are pure gaming cards. Already seen Titan Xs selling for ~$650 used on craigslist. That didn't happen with the OG Titan until the 780Ti came out 8 months later.

 

[x3sphere]

It'll probably hold its value minus 10-15% until the next flagship releases, then it'll drop by 40% or so. That's what I see with most cards anyway.

 

[kasakka]

I'd say a lot longer. We don't know how long it will take for an equivalent Pascal (1080 Ti?) to get released. Now the 980 Ti despite being expensive is in a very sweet spot for performance. Has enough memory and horsepower to run games really well at 1440p and acceptably at 4K.

 

[Sabrewings]

As mentioned, it'll depend on when it's made obsolete. If Nvidia waits until 16nm to put anything else out, it could be up to a year or so before it's no longer the current generation. Price cuts along the way will happen, but no much I'd imagine.

If Nvidia does decide to release a refreshed Maxwell line to fill the gap, then it'll drop sooner as I'm sure they'd have some kind of replacement. However, without being a full blown GM200, I don't see how they can squeeze any more performance out of that size of a die at 28nm. From what I read about the current state of TSMC's 28nm is the GM200 is pushing it as it is, so I can't see them going any larger. It's already a huge die, and I kinda did a double take when I pulled off the blower from my 980 Ti to put on the waterblock.

 

[Subyman]

Pascal isn't supposed to show up until at least 2H next year. That would leave time for a 980TI "Black" edition that would be full Maxwell with 6GB. Other than that, it will be lowering prices depending on what AMD does. But to answer your question, I wouldn't be expecting anything better than a 980TI in the next ~year.

Nvidia did surprise us with big Maxwell coming out so soon, so they may hit pascal earlier than people expect but its unknown. I can't see the 980TI dropping below $599 even if AMD heavily shuffles prices, so its not like you'll be hit hard with a price drop.

It really all hinges on AMD. The 780 tanked because the R9 290 came out at $399. The Fury X doesn't match the 980TI, so Fury Pro won't touch it at all. Fury Pro should launch at ~$500. Unless AMD undercuts huge (which would be hard since the HBM+GPU die is probably quite expensive) then you should be fine buying now. Worst case scenario IMO is that AMD ignores Fury X price but dumps the Fury Pro to $399. 980TI would still be insulated because it would enjoy a sizable performance boost over Fury Pro. That could upset the market, but I don't see that being too plausible. I think both will likely ride out high prices and do bundles instead.

 

[raghu78]

GTX 980 Ti will hold its value for quite sometime. Nvidia could get aggressive and come out with a full GM200 6 GB card at USD 700 and push the 980 Ti to USD 600. But it will take atleast this holiday for that to happen. Anyway GM200 is going to be the fastest chip for atleast 15 months. Do not expect Pascal GP204 or AMD R9 4xx to launch before late Q3 2016. HBM2 volume production is going to be in Q2 2016 so expect actual 16/14nm FINFET GPU with HBM2 5-6 months after that.

 

[Head1985]

980TI will price drop after Fury pro launch

 

[Sabrewings]

980TI will price drop after Fury pro launch

I'm curious on what your reasoning here is.

 

[nurturedhate]

The issue with 980ti and its value is it's place in the overall stack of gpus. This is 780 to 780ti all over again and the majority of people seem to overlook this fact because they stuck ti on the end of it.

This isn't the full chip. We will get a full chip in gtx form. Probably in time for holidays 2015. This is going to hurt the 980ti. Two architectures ago the 980ti would have been the x70.

 

[x3sphere]

The issue with 980ti and its value is it's place in the overall stack of gpus. This is 780 to 780ti all over again and the majority of people seem to overlook this fact because they stuck ti on the end of it.

This isn't the full chip. We will get a full chip in gtx form. Probably in time for holidays 2015. This is going to hurt the 980ti. Two architectures ago the 980ti would have been the x70.

Nah, it's not. We already have the full GM200 in Titan X and there's simply not a big difference.

780 to 780 Ti was a bigger jump because the original Titan was cut down and the 780 even more so.

Don't get me wrong NV will probably release the full GM200 in a non-Titan card eventually (probably as part of a Maxwell refresh?) but it's going to be a small jump. They may clock it higher at stock to make it seem like a bigger increase though.

 

[Majcric]

True, but we can't really look at the past as a lot of things were better in yesteryear. In fact, it could get even worse if Nvidia starts chopping SKUs even more.

 

[blastingcap]

So early adopters of the Titan and GTX 780 series got burned. The value of those cards dropped fast.

How long do you think the value of the 980ti will last?

Worth it to buy now?

Imho no high-end 28nm GPU is worth buying right now because they offer worse bang for the buck than lower-end cards, but if you must buy something high end then get a R9 290 for $240 after rebate while they are still available.

Reason: 14/16nm is going to be a HUGE improvement over 28nm, with or without new architecture. A 980 Ti is going to be midrange by the end of 2016. Whatever your thoughts are on the GTX 960, that's what position the 980 Ti will hold 18 months from now, relatively speaking.

 

[2is]

I think if you're looking for longevity, 980Ti is the way to go, I just don't see them doing much more with 28nm and a 16nm card that will outperform a 980Ti is still at least a year out. They will likely come out with a refresh between now and then with slightly higher clocks and what not, but I don't think it will be a huge leap in performance that would harm 980Ti value all too much.

On the other hand... If AMD does with Fury X what they did with the 7970 which is a combination of price drops, better drivers and an equivalent "ghz edition" version, that could certainly devalue a 980Ti

 

[rchunter]

The only value I care about is what it costs when I initially buy it. I bought a 980ti but I have no intention on selling it a year from now when a better one comes out. If and when I do buy another card it will just get passed down to another secondary computer. Eventually i'll probably end up donating it to charity when the card gets old enough and I don't want it anymore. By then it will probably be worth less than 50 bucks on ebay.

 

[boozzer]

500$ + gpus has no value. the main question is do you want to spend 500+ for the performance it provides.

fyi, pc games are shafted when it comes to AAA games. most of them don't even take advantage of the pc gpu powers.