9mm or .357 sig?

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ephemeral
The .357 SIG round is not .357 Magnum, it is a .355 in a necked down higher-pressure .40 case. There is more recoil than the standard 9mm in most loads, and ammo isn't as abundant. I never really liked mine when I owned it...I'd rather have a heavier grain .357 magnum. It isn't a bad round, and serves its purpose well, but you would probably be better off with the 9mm. Of course trying them out is the best way to determine whether or not it will be the right fit for you personally.

No kidding...did we just fall off the turnip truck here? :laugh:

BTW-I've never actually fired or owned a weapon chambered in .357 Sig. I always looked at that caliber as kind of a nitch caliber. The reason it's expensive is because there are relatively few guns chambered for it. Kind of like the 10mm which I also consider a nitch or specialty caliber.

I own a .32 ACP, a 9mm, two .45 ACP's and a .44 Magnum handgun. I have also owned a couple .38 Specials and a .357 Magnum (which I kind of regret selling actually).

I'd go with a .45 ACP...or a good .357 revolver. .357 Mag is a very very effective stopper and you can shoot .38 Special through it all day long at the range for about the cost of a 9mm.

10mm is one hell of an awesome round though, especially if you got some cor-bon loads. I second the .357 revolver idea too, the dual round versatility is really nice (and the reason I have a similar pistol in my handgun bug-out-box).

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[pontifex]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
.45 ACP. Why would you be limited to those two calibers?

Proficiency with that caliber? I'll give you a real life example:

I own 4 handguns - .22 single action revolver, .380 semi-auto, 9mm semi-auto, and .45 1911. I'm fairly proficient with the .380 and the 9mm. I haven't had the 1911 very long, maybe 2 months or so. I suck at using it. I have trouble hitting the target sometimes. Why would I choose to use the gun I can't reliably hit a target with over one I can? Hell, I'd probably rather have the .22 than the .45 if it really came down to it. Something is better than nothing.

Cost of ammo? this ties in with the above reason. you need to train to become proficient. you need to buy ammo to train. if you can't afford ammo or enough ammo to train regularly, you can't become proficient.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
.45 ACP. Why would you be limited to those two calibers?

Proficiency with that caliber? I'll give you a real life example:

I own 4 handguns - .22 single action revolver, .380 semi-auto, 9mm semi-auto, and .45 1911. I'm fairly proficient with the .380 and the 9mm. I haven't had the 1911 very long, maybe 2 months or so. I suck at using it. I have trouble hitting the target sometimes. Why would I choose to use the gun I can't reliably hit a target with over one I can? Hell, I'd probably rather have the .22 than the .45 if it really came down to it. Something is better than nothing.

Cost of ammo? this ties in with the above reason. you need to train to become proficient. you need to buy ammo to train. if you can't afford ammo or enough ammo to train regularly, you can't become proficient.

Exactly. I shoot .45 better than anything else I have, but a friend of mine can't shoot any of my .45's worth a damn. Give him a .357 revolver, and he will shoot just as well as I can with my .45. It all comes down to what you are used to shooting.

Of course, ammo cost (for me anyways) is not that much of a big deal, as I reload all of my brass, and buy bulk ammo, 2,000-4,000 rounds at a time.

 

[winr]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ephemeral
The .357 SIG round is not .357 Magnum, it is a .355 in a necked down higher-pressure .40 case. There is more recoil than the standard 9mm in most loads, and ammo isn't as abundant. I never really liked mine when I owned it...I'd rather have a heavier grain .357 magnum. It isn't a bad round, and serves its purpose well, but you would probably be better off with the 9mm. Of course trying them out is the best way to determine whether or not it will be the right fit for you personally.

No kidding...did we just fall off the turnip truck here? :laugh:

BTW-I've never actually fired or owned a weapon chambered in .357 Sig. I always looked at that caliber as kind of a nitch caliber. The reason it's expensive is because there are relatively few guns chambered for it. Kind of like the 10mm which I also consider a nitch or specialty caliber.

I own a .32 ACP, a 9mm, two .45 ACP's and a .44 Magnum handgun. I have also owned a couple .38 Specials and a .357 Magnum (which I kind of regret selling actually).

I'd go with a .45 ACP...or a good .357 revolver. .357 Mag is a very very effective stopper and you can shoot .38 Special through it all day long at the range for about the cost of a 9mm.

10mm is one hell of an awesome round though, especially if you got some cor-bon loads. I second the .357 revolver idea too, the dual round versatility is really nice (and the reason I have a similar pistol in my handgun bug-out-box).

Handgun bug-out box open

Handgun bug-out box closed

Nice...

Where can I get a box like yours but smaller ??

(EDITED for spelling)

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: winr

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ephemeral
The .357 SIG round is not .357 Magnum, it is a .355 in a necked down higher-pressure .40 case. There is more recoil than the standard 9mm in most loads, and ammo isn't as abundant. I never really liked mine when I owned it...I'd rather have a heavier grain .357 magnum. It isn't a bad round, and serves its purpose well, but you would probably be better off with the 9mm. Of course trying them out is the best way to determine whether or not it will be the right fit for you personally.

No kidding...did we just fall off the turnip truck here? :laugh:

BTW-I've never actually fired or owned a weapon chambered in .357 Sig. I always looked at that caliber as kind of a nitch caliber. The reason it's expensive is because there are relatively few guns chambered for it. Kind of like the 10mm which I also consider a nitch or specialty caliber.

I own a .32 ACP, a 9mm, two .45 ACP's and a .44 Magnum handgun. I have also owned a couple .38 Specials and a .357 Magnum (which I kind of regret selling actually).

I'd go with a .45 ACP...or a good .357 revolver. .357 Mag is a very very effective stopper and you can shoot .38 Special through it all day long at the range for about the cost of a 9mm.

10mm is one hell of an awesome round though, especially if you got some cor-bon loads. I second the .357 revolver idea too, the dual round versatility is really nice (and the reason I have a similar pistol in my handgun bug-out-box).

Handgun bug-out box open

Handgun bug-out box closed

Nice...

Where can I get a box like yours but smaller ??

(EDITED for spelling)

Cabelas has them, if you are looking to order online. I got mine at a local store called Bi-Mart for about $25

 

[RGN]

I'd go with the .357 sig. But I enjoy large calibers. My usual shooter is a .45ACP but I have .44spl, .44mag and .50AE that come out often too.

 

[Rogodin2]

I'm looking at a Kahr K40 Novak.

Rogo

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
.45 ACP. Why would you be limited to those two calibers?

Proficiency with that caliber? I'll give you a real life example:

I own 4 handguns - .22 single action revolver, .380 semi-auto, 9mm semi-auto, and .45 1911. I'm fairly proficient with the .380 and the 9mm. I haven't had the 1911 very long, maybe 2 months or so. I suck at using it. I have trouble hitting the target sometimes. Why would I choose to use the gun I can't reliably hit a target with over one I can? Hell, I'd probably rather have the .22 than the .45 if it really came down to it. Something is better than nothing.

Cost of ammo? this ties in with the above reason. you need to train to become proficient. you need to buy ammo to train. if you can't afford ammo or enough ammo to train regularly, you can't become proficient.

It's not difficult to become proficient with other calibers. Hell, give me any gun and I'll learn how to shoot it well given some time to familiarize myself with it.

 

[rayjayturbo]

One other thing to consider is the .357 Sig can be used in a .40 cal Sig 229 with just a drop in barrel change. As one of the other posters stated the .357 Sig is a necked down .40 S&W round. The same magazines will work with both. In my Sig 229 I find the .357 Sig a bit more accurate.

 

[Ephemeral]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ephemeral
The .357 SIG round is not .357 Magnum, it is a .355 in a necked down higher-pressure .40 case. There is more recoil than the standard 9mm in most loads, and ammo isn't as abundant. I never really liked mine when I owned it...I'd rather have a heavier grain .357 magnum. It isn't a bad round, and serves its purpose well, but you would probably be better off with the 9mm. Of course trying them out is the best way to determine whether or not it will be the right fit for you personally.

No kidding...did we just fall off the turnip truck here? :laugh:

BTW-I've never actually fired or owned a weapon chambered in .357 Sig. I always looked at that caliber as kind of a nitch caliber. The reason it's expensive is because there are relatively few guns chambered for it. Kind of like the 10mm which I also consider a nitch or specialty caliber.

I own a .32 ACP, a 9mm, two .45 ACP's and a .44 Magnum handgun. I have also owned a couple .38 Specials and a .357 Magnum (which I kind of regret selling actually).

I'd go with a .45 ACP...or a good .357 revolver. .357 Mag is a very very effective stopper and you can shoot .38 Special through it all day long at the range for about the cost of a 9mm.

I've had to explain the difference many times to people. Most of the time they think it is just called a .357 SIG because the handgun itself was manufactured by SiGARMS. So like I said...just making sure the OP knew, don't want him to buy the wrong thing thinking he can save money (and wrist) with .38sp.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: NightDarker
I'd get a 9mm. No matter what gun you choose, a bullet is going to hurt.

I dont want a bullet to hurt.
I want a bullet to stop a guy from killing me.

.357.

 

[JRich]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: NightDarker
I'd get a 9mm. No matter what gun you choose, a bullet is going to hurt.

I dont want a bullet to hurt.
I want a bullet to stop a guy from killing me.

.357.

Here ya go

 

[Ephemeral]

Shot placement will always be the most effective means of stopping power, a 9mm can be just as effective as a larger/heavier/higher-velocity etc. caliber. People don't fly back like an imaginary force just hit them with a sledgehammer simply because your gun says .45ACP on it. There is no way to predict how a wound channel will be created based on the bullet alone, and in the end they all essentially do the same thing. The most important factor is how competent you are with a particular round/handgun, not the round itself.

 

[Dee67]

Of the two, I would personally choose the 9mm.

Due to lighter recoil, I could get off follow-up shots quicker and more accurately.

Due to price of ammo, I could practice more often and have more ammo stockpiled.

Due to ammo availability because 9mm is so common, I could buy it just about anywhere, at any time.

I could dance around the house singing, "Ice Ice Baby" to my gun when he talks about grabbing his "9"...

Oh, and because my wrist tends to hurt when I practice with hand cannons for very long.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Squisher
Sorry, I vote .40 cal

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