9to5 Google claims this is the Nexus 6/X.

[sze5003]

When is the media embargo up? I'm so sick of companies announcing a phone and then keeping us in the dark for ages. If you are ready to launch a phone, LAUNCH THE PHONE!

Pre order oct 29th and available November 3rd. Tmobile gets it November 12th.

 

[cbrunny]

Yeah but when is the media embargo up?

 

[sze5003]

Yeah but when is the media embargo up?

Probably a day or two before it publicly is released..different carriers are getting it on different dates.

 

[kpkp]

Does the Nexus 9 have the notification LED? That would tell as more about where Google currently stands.

Nexus 9 has a LED, another +1 for the last minute Nexus 6 theory.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Nexus 9 has a LED, another +1 for the last minute Nexus 6 theory.

Sigh. I miss the notification LED. But i think the bigger issue is that even though the N9 has a notification LED, you know the N9 will always be a second tier product to the N6 in Google's eyes. Tablet support is always second priority, and likely the LED will still never get fully utilized by Google.

 

[Red Storm]

Nexus 9 has a LED, another +1 for the last minute Nexus 6 theory.

Last minute would be not having the LED and nothing else to substitute either. Taking Active Display and incorporating it into stock Android seems like more work than a simple LED light.

 

[sze5003]

I welcome active display I think it will be more useful at least in my day to day use vs an LED.

Too bad I wasn't able to pre-order one well now it's hurry up and wait.

 

[kpkp]

Last minute would be not having the LED and nothing else to substitute either. Taking Active Display and incorporating it into stock Android seems like more work than a simple LED light.

- it's easier to change software then hardware
- I suspect AD wasn't developed only for Nexus 6, is something that Apple had for a long time, so implementing something like that sounds reasonable even for non AMOLED devices

 

[Red Storm]

- it's easier to change software then hardware
- I suspect AD wasn't developed only for Nexus 6, is something that Apple had for a long time, so implementing something like that sounds reasonable even for non AMOLED devices

Apple doesn't have an Ambient Display equivalent...

 

[Crono]

- it's easier to change software then hardware
- I suspect AD wasn't developed only for Nexus 6, is something that Apple had for a long time, so implementing something like that sounds reasonable even for non AMOLED devices

Nokia's Glance (Lumia 1520) is the near equivalent feature. Not on the iPhones.

 

[B0xt1eton]

I get that the Nexus is a developer device and Google obviously want developers to put a little love into those bridging sized devices

 

[zerocool84]

- it's easier to change software then hardware
- I suspect AD wasn't developed only for Nexus 6, is something that Apple had for a long time, so implementing something like that sounds reasonable even for non AMOLED devices

Apple doesn't have Active Display. Also you can't have active display on an LCD screen because you can't activate individual pixels on LCD like you can on OLED.

 

[lopri]

Which color will hide the "NEXUS" logo best? I do not like that giant logo.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Apple doesn't have Active Display. Also you can't have active display on an LCD screen because you can't activate individual pixels on LCD like you can on OLED.

Well, every notification wakes the iPhone screen. It's not a persistent flash, but considering that the iPhone by default wakes on every notification I'm always surprised how well my iPhone does in battery.

 

[kpkp]

Active display is a Motorola thing and as far as I know uses additional hardware to pulse without creating wakelocks. Ambient display is a Google thing and it has only 2 functions, wake up the display when a new notification arrives or wake up the display when the device is picked up. All that can be achieved on any modern smartphone with existing sensors (maybe with a sensor hub, ala Apples M8, for better power optimization) .

So the only difference is that Google will wake you display at pickup while Apple will not. Therefore saying "so implementing something like that" isn't an egregious statement, maybe not 100% correct, but close enough for discussion sake.

Nokia Glance is closer to Active display then Ambient display. Ambient display is more like what Apple is doing +1 little feature.

Ambient display functionality description:

That is all a bit of speculation, since we aren't still sure if Ambient display will be in the AOSP or are they trying to make up for the missing LED or even taking advantage of additional HW Motorola put in there. Ambient display is not mentioned as a function on the Android 5 page.

 

[Red Storm]

Active display is not mentioned as a function on the Android 5 page.

Because Active Display is Motorola's name for their implementation. Every article and preview I've read mentions that they're taking Moto's Active Display and bringing it to stock Android, so obviously the name has to change, and it did, to Ambient Display.

Active Display does exactly the same thing as well because the definition you provided doesn't go into detail. Ambient display will take advantage of the AMOLED tech and pulse notifications on screen, and only those pixels will be using power. And then you can either dismiss them or go straight into the app, all without turning on your screen.

 

[kpkp]

Because Active Display is Motorola's name for their implementation. Every article and preview I've read mentions that they're taking Moto's Active Display and bringing it to stock Android, so obviously the name has to change, and it did, to Ambient Display.

Active Display does exactly the same thing as well because the definition you provided doesn't go into detail. Ambient display will take advantage of the AMOLED tech and pulse notifications on screen, and only those pixels will be using power. And then you can either dismiss them or go straight into the app, all without turning on your screen.

That was just a lapsus, I obviously meant Ambient display, sorry for the confusion.

I didn't know that Ambient display has the pulse functionality (any link?), if that is the case... Motorola has a HW support for that. Does that mean that a Nexus has an undocumented HW implementation of an AOSP feature and if other OEMs will want to implement it will need additional HW (and know how) or pay the price in battery life (I am not talking about AMOLED but the TI DSP)? That's weird, doesn't sound like a Nexus way of doing things.

Or are they just paying the battery tax in the first place ignoring the DSP implementation?

 

[sze5003]

Google put a notice up that they will be refreshing nexus 6 stock every Wednesday.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Google put a notice up that they will be refreshing nexus 6 stock every Wednesday.

5 more for sale!

 

[sze5003]

5 more for sale!

Yea 6 every Wednesday, the 6 stands for how many they have in stock lol.

 

[vshah]

annoying, but I will be checking at midnight and 6AM

 

[Red Storm]

Meh, considering all major carriers will be selling it too, I don't care about breaking my F5 key to try and snag one on the Play Store. I'll just get mine from T-Mobile.

 

[sze5003]

Meh, considering all major carriers will be selling it too, I don't care about breaking my F5 key to try and snag one on the Play Store. I'll just get mine from T-Mobile.

I would too but I want to use it on Verizon and Verizon is known to white list imei numbers. So they won't activate it if the number is not in their system. Either way if I don't get one, I'll get one when I can.

 

[Red Storm]

Well there was no F5 smashing, just happened to check the play store a minute ago and saw it in stock, made my order with no hassle.

 

[sze5003]

Well there was no F5 smashing, just happened to check the play store a minute ago and saw it in stock, made my order with no hassle.

Yea I saw the 32gb white available. For a bunch of refreshes too. Had the push bullet set up for it and got a notification. But I passed on it as I want a 64gb white.