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Red Storm

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How many hrs of battery is everyone expecting to get? I usually am happy if I can get up to 8 hrs while doing everything on my phone at work and then it usually lasts me until I go to bed. My m7 is getting bad battery now because it's old but before this it would last from 6am to 11pm with heavy use and no charging in between.

When I had the Nexus 5 I would get around 2 and a half hours of screen on time per charge. When I had the Note 3 I'd get double that. My expectations for the Nexus 6 are similar, I want around 5 hours of screen on time. If it's 4 and a half hours, I can live with that. We'll see how it goes.
 

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I've read a good a amount of reviews and a majority of them are positive on the phone. Some even mentioned that the camera is pretty good, but not quite up there with ip6+ and note 4.

However, the reviews from arstechnica and anandtech (the two reviews that do a more rigorous testing) shows the phone to be mediocre at best. Sub-par battery life, so-so screen, lagging behind Nexus 5 in performance tests, and just an "ok" camera.

There's been suspicion that the culprit for the poor performance was due to the auto-encryption built into lollipop. I am not sure how this affect battery life but it certainly adds extra load on the SoC. This may be correctable through software updates. IP6+ does not have this problem as it has a separate dedicated chip for encryption.

As for the screen quality, that's a hardware issue and not much can be done about it. It also may be the cause for the poor battery life.

I'm not exactly a power user so if it can get me from 6 AM to 10-11 PM (with 3-4 hours of screen time) w/o a recharge, I'm mostly satisfied. Also, the camera needs to be competitive with the Note 4 and Iphone 6+. I'm going to stick with my Shamu order and try it out (can return to motorola within 14 days). Other than that, no idea what my options are. Can't do Note 4, not a fan of touchwiz and the lag/hiccups it brings. I've looked into the Z3 and maybe go to the dark side and get an iphone 6+.
 

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I've read a good a amount of reviews and a majority of them are positive on the phone. Some even mentioned that the camera is pretty good, but not quite up there with ip6+ and note 4.

However, the reviews from arstechnica and anandtech (the two reviews that do a more rigorous testing) shows the phone to be mediocre at best. Sub-par battery life, so-so screen, lagging behind Nexus 5 in performance tests, and just an "ok" camera.

There's been suspicion that the culprit for the poor performance was due to the auto-encryption built into lollipop. I am not sure how this affect battery life but it certainly adds extra load on the SoC. This may be correctable through software updates. IP6+ does not have this problem as it has a separate dedicated chip for encryption.

As for the screen quality, that's a hardware issue and not much can be done about it. It also may be the cause for the poor battery life.

I'm not exactly a power user so if it can get me from 6 AM to 10-11 PM (with 3-4 hours of screen time) w/o a recharge, I'm mostly satisfied. Also, the camera needs to be competitive with the Note 4 and Iphone 6+. I'm going to stick with my Shamu order and try it out (can return to motorola within 14 days). Other than that, no idea what my options are. Can't do Note 4, not a fan of touchwiz and the lag/hiccups it brings. I've looked into the Z3 and maybe go to the dark side and get an iphone 6+.

I think if the nexus doesn't pan out for me I'll just go with a moto x 2nd gen. Same reasons as you I can't do Samsung because of touchwiz, not going back to iPhone either, and I've had pretty much all the HTC phones too.
 

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I think if the nexus doesn't pan out for me I'll just go with a moto x 2nd gen. Same reasons as you I can't do Samsung because of touchwiz, not going back to iPhone either, and I've had pretty much all the HTC phones too.
I was thinking the same thing about the Moto X, but the subpar camera is keeping me away.

I'm just so disappointed in the Nexus 6 reviews. I really thought this was going to be the perfect phone for me. The battery not being anything special, is probably the most disappointing revelation. Even if it's not as bad as AT's review, which it probably isn't, it's still mediocre at best. I'm still going to wait for user reviews, and longer impressions...

My next choices are going to be the Samsung Note 4, Sony Xperia Z3, LG G3.
 

sze5003

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I was thinking the same thing about the Moto X, but the subpar camera is keeping me away.

I'm just so disappointed in the Nexus 6 reviews. I really thought this was going to be the perfect phone for me. The battery not being anything special, is probably the most disappointing revelation. Even if it's not as bad as AT's review, which it probably isn't, it's still mediocre at best. I'm still going to wait for user reviews, and longer impressions...

My next choices are going to be the Samsung Note 4, Sony Xperia Z3, LG G3.

I think the battery will be better than what I am getting on my m7 now. I hope the screen does not disappoint me like the one plus did.

I should be fine with the nexus 6 as I'm not one that complains about battery if I can't get 12hrs of use from it. I'm a heavy user but I don't run bench marks or do intensive things on phones all the time.

Development for the nexus will be good and there will be a lot of customizations and tweaks available. The z3 is nice too but it doesn't look new, or as sharp. Although I could use it for remote play on ps4.
 

Wingznut

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I think the battery will be better than what I am getting on my m7 now. I hope the screen does not disappoint me like the one plus did.

I should be fine with the nexus 6 as I'm not one that complains about battery if I can't get 12hrs of use from it. I'm a heavy user but I don't run bench marks or do intensive things on phones all the time.

Development for the nexus will be good and there will be a lot of customizations and tweaks available. The z3 is nice too but it doesn't look new, or as sharp. Although I could use it for remote play on ps4.
I too, am not someone who complains about battery life... Heck, I currently have a Droid DNA. But I was just hoping for something significant in regards to battery life.

The Droid DNA was not a popular device, thus accessories were not plentiful. This is my concern with the Z3.

I am really waiting to try a Nexus in the store.
 

sze5003

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I too, am not someone who complains about battery life... Heck, I currently have a Droid DNA. But I was just hoping for something significant in regards to battery life.

The Droid DNA was not a popular device, thus accessories were not plentiful. This is my concern with the Z3.

I am really waiting to try a Nexus in the store.

Hang on to that DNA. The only Verizon phone I could get hspa + on att and tmobile before they came out with the newer phones. I had one and sold it a few months back. Used it on Verizon got LTE and also used it with straight talk for a month.
 

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The one thing that I really really like about the Nexus is the cellular connectivity and wide array of LTE bands. I think the North American model can be used in Asia (maybe not Japan), South America, and Europe by just replacing the SIM card for the appropriate carrier. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this one. I do some traveling so this could be a plus.
 

sze5003

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The one thing that I really really like about the Nexus is the cellular connectivity and wide array of LTE bands. I think the North American model can be used in Asia (maybe not Japan), South America, and Europe by just replacing the SIM card for the appropriate carrier. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this one. I do some traveling so this could be a plus.

You are somewhat correct. There are two versions. World and US. World versions have different bands I think for LTE and I'm not sure if the world edition uses the same cdma ones or if it doesn't have them. But the phone will work in Europe. You may not be able to get their 4g but you can get voice and edge/3g if it's supported.
 

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I'm going to sound a touch apologist, but I just feel like the resolutions are too much for the 805 to handle.

The 810 will probably be the first great CPU for QHD screens. We're just in that awkward transition stage where the hardware isn't all on the same page.

But then again, could just be something specific to this year's nexus hardware.

At least that's how I feel. My N7 2013 and N5 are operating nicely on Lollipop. Especially the N7; it's much smoother than it was on KitKat or the preview build.
 

poofyhairguy

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Then you add the predominately white web based test and the older generation AMOLED

Maybe. Given Material Design it does seem the Nexus 5 is better suited to run Lollipop than the Nexus 6 is. Kinda disappointing when you consider that the Nexus 5 felt like it was born to run Kitkat, while the Nexus 6 seems to be trying to survive Lollipop.

Put me in the "last minute Nexus" camp. I wonder if the battery life would get better with a Holo skin.

My N7 2013 and N5 are operating nicely on Lollipop. Especially the N7; it's much smoother than it was on KitKat or the preview build.

Yup.
 
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sze5003

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I bet it's software related. I don't get how the n5 can run it better. Obviously this is going to have lots of bugs when it's first out.
 

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Nexus 6 enters DxOMark Top 10 for camera performance

http://m.gsmarena.com/nexus_6_enters_dxomark_top_10_for_camera_performance-news-10205.php

The Nexus 6 has had its camera tested by the folks over at DxOMark, and they've published the results. The first Nexus phablet got a score of 78, which nets it the sixth position in DxOMark's Top 10 for best mobile phone cameras.

As we have told you back in September, according to the same source, the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus have the best cameras around - they're tied for first place with 82 points each.

Up next are the Samsung Galaxy S5, Sony Xperia Z3, and Sony Xperia Z2 - all three having 79 points, which in effect makes them tied for second place. And then comes the Nexus 6, which from the perspective of its score could actually be considered the third best performing handset tested by DxOMark.

In terms of still photo capture, the Nexus 6 was praised for good overall exposure, great detail preservation when shooting in bright light conditions, delivering pleasant colors when shooting outdoors, and boasting a stable and repeatable autofocus. It also has good detail preservation, color rendering, and exposure when using the LED flash.

On the flip side, the phablet has shown a slightly pink White Balance when shooting in overcast and cloudy conditions, it produces inconsistent sharpness between image corners and its center, and has slow autofocus performance in all light conditions.

When it comes to video capture, the handset got good grades for texture preservation, color rendering, and noise performance. On the other hand, video stabilization needs to be improved, rolling shutter artifacts are visible, and it overshoots during refocusing.

http://www.dxomark.com/Phones/Googl...andset-storms-in-to-the-DxOMark-Mobile-top-10
 
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The one thing that I really really like about the Nexus is the cellular connectivity and wide array of LTE bands. I think the North American model can be used in Asia (maybe not Japan), South America, and Europe by just replacing the SIM card for the appropriate carrier. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this one. I do some traveling so this could be a plus.
Negatory on the US version being used in Asia/Europe for LTE. The bands to look for in general are 1, 3, 7 for international use, and 20 for some countries in Europe.

It will work on 3G, but honestly most places have overloaded 3G already.
 

lopri

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Not fine for me because I thought I was going to replace my phone and tablet with this. (It's a phablet, you know) The dude is getting 2~2.5 hrs. of screen time per charge. That is like half of what I am getting with my Nexus 4 and 5.

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sze5003

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Pretty sure it will be tweaked too. Battery life depends on what you do on the phone. If you are running a video for 2 hours then it will deplete quickly. I answer posts on here, check email, browse the net, read articles.

It's all subjective of how you use the phone. You don't know if he had any apps installed that drained the battery in the background or what other things were running.

I'm going to try it out and if it lasts me more than what my m7 does then I'll keep it. If I find issues well I have 14 days to send it back.

Either way it all comes down to your personal use not what someone else's battery measurement shows.

Not to mention lollipop needs some revisions before it's more stable. In its current state I believe it's bugged.
 
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Red Storm

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Not fine for me because I thought I was going to replace my phone and tablet with this. (It's a phablet, you know) The dude is getting 2~2.5 hrs. of screen time per charge. That is like half of what I am getting with my Nexus 4 and 5.

Your pictures are a tad cherry picked. I see a lot of voice calls and phone idling, no intensive apps or games or even web browsing above 3%. Most any phone could show awesome battery life with that kind of usage.
 

lopri

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Those screenshots were taken when I did not have a charger during a business trip. Yeah I used the phone carefully but that is still 2 days (1d 22h) and 4.5 hrs. of screen time browsing.

Edit: Anyhow, I have no intention to bash the Nexus 6 though it looks like that's what I have done. I am just pissed because my expectation was so high.
 

sze5003

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It will take a few revisions for lollipop before we see the advantages of better battery life and optimization. MR1 is already in the works from Google.
 

Red Storm

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Those screenshots were taken when I did not have a charger during a business trip. Yeah I used the phone carefully but that is still 2 days (1d 22h) and 4.5 hrs. of screen time browsing.

Edit: Anyhow, I have no intention to bash the Nexus 6 though it looks like that's what I have done. I am just pissed because my expectation was so high.

Mine are high as well, but I do feel like the N6 will do fine. Sure it won't best the Note 4 (which has a smaller screen, and apparently a newer display), but I'm not worried.
 
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