9to5 Google claims this is the Nexus 6/X.

[s44]

This looks like an awesome alternative to the Note 4 if you don't use the S-pen. I hope the AMOLED display is the latest and greatest variety and not last gen stuff like on the Moto X, but I wouldn't be too hopeful on that.

Given the price difference, I'd assume it *is* the good stuff.

I really hope there's a cheaper 5"-5.2" Nexus phone coming out as well. This is too much of everything for me: too big a phone, too expensive.

I'd expect a price drop on the N5 when the 6 actually goes live.

 

[zerocool84]

I'm definitely sticking with my N5 which I love. This phone looks good but the size is just too big for me to use 24/7

 

[Radeon962]

Given the price difference, I'd assume it *is* the good stuff.

I'd expect a price drop on the N5 when the 6 actually goes live.

Two different markets for a 5" and phablet. I doubt N5 price will drop as the N6 is catering to a different segment of users.

 

[Crono]

I have strongly considered getting a Nexus phone in the past, but I've never wanted the latest Nexus less than I do now. Maybe this is Google's way of semi-gracefully killing off the line without just suddenly dropping it from their lineup.

 

[kaerflog]

The Nexus 5 is a good phone but the battery is just bad.
Once you're used to using something like a G2, you will then realize the N5 battery is pretty bad.
I hate having to constantly watch my phone usage and how much battery I have left.

 

[kaerflog]

Lets see the history of Nexus phones.
- Nexus One. A great spec phone during its release and we all thought Google was going to do something amazing and sell it at cost to gain traction. When $529 was announced, it was a buzz kill and none bought it.
- Nexus S. Same thing as the Nexus One. Priced high and no one bought one.
- Galaxy Nexus. Now this was a great phone. 720p screen and priced only $399. Still no-contract phones wasn't popular at the time.
- Nexus 4. $299. Ding ding ding. We have a winner. This phone arguably was just as good as any phone at the time with a $299 based price. I mean Google did something that shook the mobile industry.
- Nexus 5. Same thing. $349 for an insanely great phone. Now there is a buzz for every new Nexus release.
- Nexus 6. 5.9" phablet with a $649 based price ?? Are you kidding me. Sure its priced according with other flagship phones but thats not what the Nexus line is about. You've already set a precedent with the last 3 Nexus. How are you going to convince all the old Nexus users to upgrade when its twice the cost ??? If you can't convince old Nexus users, how are you going to convince new users ???
This is just FAIL. Just like the Nexus 9.

 

[sze5003]

Yea they are not getting the same customer base for sure with that price. But its similar prices as others mainly since Motorola made it now. If it had been just another Motorola phone for Verizon and att no one would complain about price. It's because people with the nexus were used to the cheaper prices.

 

[ponyo]

Yea they are not getting the same customer base for sure with that price. But its similar prices as others mainly since Motorola made it now. If it had been just another Motorola phone for Verizon and att no one would complain about price. It's because people with the nexus were used to the cheaper prices.

So which customers are Google going to get? The only person I know who wanted premium Nexus phone at premium price was DLeRium and even he's not buying one.

 

[Crono]

Lets see the history of Nexus phones.
- Nexus One. A great spec phone during its release and we all thought Google was going to do something amazing and sell it at cost to gain traction. When $529 was announced, it was a buzz kill and none bought it.
- Nexus S. Same thing as the Nexus One. Priced high and no one bought one.
- Galaxy Nexus. Now this was a great phone. 720p screen and priced only $399. Still no-contract phones wasn't popular at the time.
- Nexus 4. $299. Ding ding ding. We have a winner. This phone arguably was just as good as any phone at the time with a $299 based price. I mean Google did something that shook the mobile industry.
- Nexus 5. Same thing. $349 for an insanely great phone. Now there is a buzz for every new Nexus release.
- Nexus 6. 5.9" phablet with a $649 based price ?? Are you kidding me. Sure its priced according with other flagship phones but thats not what the Nexus line is about. You've already set a precedent with the last 3 Nexus. How are you going to convince all the old Nexus users to upgrade when its twice the cost ??? If you can't convince old Nexus users, how are you going to convince new users ???
This is just FAIL. Just like the Nexus 9.

Good comparison with past Nexuses. The biggest problem with the price is that they are asking that much for a flagship without any outstanding features. Simply pushing the specs to the same level as other flagships won't cut it, and you can get a vanilla experience on Chinese manufacturer phones at a significantly cheaper price. I guess this phone truly is a developer phone this time around, because I can't see anyone else - save the odd "pure Google experience" fan - getting this over the myriad of other premium phones. Even Motorola is potentially undercutting this phone with their Droid and X phones.

 

[sze5003]

So which customers are Google going to get? The only person I know who wanted premium Nexus phone at premium price was DLeRium and even he's not buying one.

They will still get customers. Every phone has a buyer. And many were complaining that nexus build quality was not up to par and now we may see it is and is sold for similar flagship prices. With it now on all four carriers many will go on contract with it.

I'm not, I'll be buying it or the turbo full price because I'm not giving up unlimited data. They will also get those who want a phone that big but don't like touchwiz or Samsung devices.

 

[dawheat]

It would be very interesting to see if it really is the same gen/quality 1440p AMOLED screen as the Note 4. Moto's previous AMOLED screens were always -1 gen.

 

[Red Storm]

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I love the Nexus 6. It's just about everything I want in a Nexus device, I'm very excited to get it. Perhaps Google is trying to shake the image that the Nexus is "supposed" to just be some low cost phone that clearly cut some corners to get there. I don't remember low price ever being the main goal. The Nexus platform exists as a reference model to showcase the software they develop on real life hardware. Sundar Pichai said it himself:

Advances in computing are driven at the intersection of hardware and software. That's why we’ve always introduced Nexus devices alongside our platform releases. Rather than creating software in the abstract, we work with hardware partners to build Nexus devices to help push the boundaries of what's possible. Nexus devices also serve as a reference for the ecosystem as they develop on our newest release.

No where does he say the Nexus is all about building slightly flawed devices to meet some magic ~$350 price point. I'm sorry that some people seem to think that's what the Nexus is about, but it's not. Android L will be on the Nexus 4, 5, and 6. Developers have a good selection to choose from, including phablet sized phones now.

There are plenty of companies vying to take over the high end, low cost, cut-some-corners-to-get-there market. If a low cost phone is your biggest priority, there are plenty of options to choose from. I am glad that Google has released a full fledged phablet, it's about time!

It would be very interesting to see if it really is the same gen/quality 1440p AMOLED screen as the Note 4. Moto's previous AMOLED screens were always -1 gen.

Do you know of any last gen 1440p AMOLED displays? I know I've never seen any.

 

[sze5003]

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I love the Nexus 6. It's just about everything I want in a Nexus device, I'm very excited to get it. Perhaps Google is trying to shake the image that the Nexus is "supposed" to just be some low cost phone that clearly cut some corners to get there. I don't remember low price ever being the main goal. The Nexus platform exists as a reference model to showcase the software they develop on real life hardware. Sundar Pichai said it himself:



No where does he say the Nexus is all about building slightly flawed devices to meet some magic ~$350 price point. I'm sorry that some people seem to think that's what the Nexus is about, but it's not. Android L will be on the Nexus 4, 5, and 6. Developers have a good selection to choose from, including phablet sized phones now.

There are plenty of companies vying to take over the high end, low cost, cut-some-corners-to-get-there market. If a low cost phone is your biggest priority, there are plenty of options to choose from. I am glad that Google has released a full fledged phablet, it's about time!

Liking the pics of the nexus 6 too. I really hope it feels nice and sturdy and not plastic like. I'll deal with the screen but it honestly doesn't look that much bigger than a note 4 or iPhone 6+ although specs say so. It seems to have less bezel. I'm going to pre order it and check it out for myself before leaving Verizon.

 

[Crow550]

Isn't the Nexus 5 suppose to get improved battery life with Android 5.0? Wasn't that announced?

I use Greenify (with Xposed) with my Nexus 4 and it's awesome. Greenify also now works on non-root too.

I don't know how Greenify will work with Android 5.

I might upgrade to the Nexus 6.... Or go with a Nexus 5.... I'll have to see a Nexus 6 in person to decide if I want to spend extra on a screen size like that.

 

[Red Storm]

Liking the pics of the nexus 6 too. I really hope it feels nice and sturdy and not plastic like. I'll deal with the screen but it honestly doesn't look that much bigger than a note 4 or iPhone 6+ although specs say so. It seems to have less bezel. I'm going to pre order it and check it out for myself before leaving Verizon.

It's ever so slightly taller than the 6+, but it has much more display. More display than the Note 4 as well. Combine that with dual front facing speakers, and I'm impressed:

Also, a big lol to those saying "Nexus 6 is too expensive, so I'm gonna go buy the 6+/Note 4!" Perhaps this is something Google is trying to do away with as well, people thinking Nexus phones are only worth half of their competitors. I'm getting the Nexus 6 over the Note 4 because the Nexus looks to be the best phone of 2014.

 

[sze5003]

It's ever so slightly taller than the 6+, but it has much more display. More display than the Note 4 as well. Combine that with dual front facing speakers, and I'm impressed:

Also, a big lol to those saying "Nexus 6 is too expensive, so I'm gonna go buy the 6+/Note 4!" Perhaps this is something Google is trying to do away with as well, people thinking Nexus phones are only worth half of their competitors. I'm getting the Nexus 6 over the Note 4 because the Nexus looks to be the best phone of 2014.

The reason they say it's more expensive is because they are used to nexus devices being cheaper. Now this isn't the case any more and price matches competitors. I'll probably have issues with pockets not being deep enough if its a bit taller but while driving my phone sits on the passenger seat while I stream Pandora. My work slacks usually have large enough pockets so no falling out.

The dev community will still be there even if there are less devs with the phone this time and coming unlocked means we will see roms for it some time. I just hope the pre order day won't be a disaster. I'll be at work and busy but I may just stay up the night before to get the order in.

Are you getting the 32gb or 64? For me, assuming 64gb will be $50 more I'll be looking at $716 vs $762 also assuming they charge at least $15 for shipping.

 

[Red Storm]

Are you getting the 32gb or 64? For me, assuming 64gb will be $50 more I'll be looking at $716 vs $762 also assuming they charge at least $15 for shipping.

I'll most likely go 32GB. I've gone through so many phones over the years, and in that time I've tracked my storage usage. While I can make 16GB work, I have to sacrifice stuff to do that. I always end up with around 21GB to 24GB of storage used, so 32GB should be just fine for me. But if it's $50 to get 64GB, I'll have to think about it at least.

 

[dawheat]

Do you know of any last gen 1440p AMOLED displays? I know I've never seen any.

I do think it's likely but the resolution alone doesn't confirm that it really is exactly the same technology. The size difference alone obviously means they aren't identical. Is there the equivalent of binning for displays?

 

[sze5003]

I'll most likely go 32GB. I've gone through so many phones over the years, and in that time I've tracked my storage usage. While I can make 16GB work, I have to sacrifice stuff to do that. I always end up with around 21GB to 24GB of storage used, so 32GB should be just fine for me. But if it's $50 to get 64GB, I'll have to think about it at least.

I may be able to make 32 gb work as well. I don't keep anything but roms and backups on my phone plus some pics. This is my free space on my m7 right now. Haven't ran into any issues so far.

I mainly stream music and radio so I should be good. But having 64gb is always a leisure too especially if you want to resell it.

 

[kaerflog]

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I love the Nexus 6. It's just about everything I want in a Nexus device, I'm very excited to get it. Perhaps Google is trying to shake the image that the Nexus is "supposed" to just be some low cost phone that clearly cut some corners to get there. I don't remember low price ever being the main goal. The Nexus platform exists as a reference model to showcase the software they develop on real life hardware.

Congratulation then. Google found one person that will buy it at $650.
If low price wasn't Google main goal, why did they priced their last their Nexus $399/$299/$349 ?? And all 3 of them had comparable flagship specs.
I think if this was priced $499 or lower, there wouldn't be much of an uproar.

 

[Red Storm]

Congratulation then. Google found one person that will buy it at $650.
If low price wasn't Google main goal, why did they priced their last their Nexus $399/$299/$349 ?? And all 3 of them had comparable flagship specs.

The Nexus One was not cheap. The Nexus S was not cheap. The Nexus 6 ain't cheap. So half of them have had normal prices, while the other half have been lower cost. That does not say anything definitive either way. I already quoted Sundar explaining what the Nexus program is. This whole "Nexus = cheap" definition was created by fans, not by Google.

I predict they'll sell more of the N6 than the 5, because it will be on all carriers. We've all wanted stock Android to reach more of the people, well this is the way to do it.

 

[kaerflog]

Lets face it. Google/Motorola got the pricing all fucked up.
Some of you people argued that why are people bitching when the Moto X uses better materials so therefore should be priced like other flagships.
Lets compare.
Nexus 5- $349 ====> Nexus 6- $649.
Moto X- $599 =====> Moto X(2014)- $499.
Well the old Moto X was about as cheap looking as a phone can get.
All plastic and cheap looking plastic at that. Great phone, nice compact design but zero premium feel to it.
Now the new Moto X if a premium looking phone. But wait they used better materials yet the phone is priced lower than last year.
That kinda defied logic that you use better materials, it should cost more.

 

[lothar]

So which customers are Google going to get? The only person I know who wanted premium Nexus phone at premium price was DLeRium and even he's not buying one.

This.
I wonder what he has to say about this Nexus device.
a.) He moans when Google released only 16GB/32GB...Now that Google is making 32GB the absolute floor and offering 64GB as well, he'll probably moan that Google is not offering a 128GB option despite Apple and many others still continuing to offer 16GB as their base minimum.
b.) He moans about battery life...Lets see what he has to say about it when this phone's numbers comes out.
c.) He moans about phones not supporting all bands...This Nexus phone has a shit more bands, just like last Nexus 5 did last year. Let's see if his moaning will now be directed at Apple and other Android manufacturers that make 5+ SKU's of their same phones, rather than Google itself...Not that they originally had much validity to begin with. Nexus 6 works on all US carriers and has only 2 SKU's.

The only person this phone appeals to is DLeRium.
Anyone coming from a Nexus 5 would have to be crazy to upgrade to this. If one is coming from a Nexus 4 or a Galaxy Nexus which both have shit battery life and camera, I can see the point in upgrading.

The difference between SnapDragon 800 and SnapDragon 805 is not worth that much...Certainly not worth me upgrading from that. Price isn't really much of an issue for me though...The absolute major thing I hate about this phone is the size.

This phone should appeal to the people that like giant phones like the One plus one, iPhone 6+, and Galaxy Note fanatics.
There is almost zero reason to get a Galaxy Note 4 over this phone now that it's screen is bigger, battery is bigger, and subsidized by all the US carriers.

 

[kaerflog]

The Nexus One was not cheap. The Nexus S was not cheap. The Nexus 6 ain't cheap. So half of them have had normal prices, while the other half have been lower cost. That does not say anything definitive either way. I already quoted Sundar explaining what the Nexus program is. This whole "Nexus = cheap" definition was created by fans, not by Google.

I predict they'll sell more of the N6 than the 5, because it will be on all carriers. We've all wanted stock Android to reach more of the people, well this is the way to do it.

Great argument. You used 2 phones from 4 and 5 yrs ago and say that it wasn't cheap. Skipping the last 3 Nexus line.

 

[Crono]

The Nexus One was not cheap. The Nexus S was not cheap. The Nexus 6 ain't cheap. So half of them have had normal prices, while the other half have been lower cost. That does not say anything definitive either way. I already quoted Sundar explaining what the Nexus program is. This whole "Nexus = cheap" definition was created by fans, not by Google.

I predict they'll sell more of the N6 than the 5, because it will be on all carriers. We've all wanted stock Android to reach more of the people, well this is the way to do it.

The way to do it would have been to price it like the Nexus 4 or 5 and create a marketing campaign around it. It worked pretty well for the OnePlus One and CyanogenMod.

The whole "Nexus is cheap" WAS created by Google, or by LG if they had a say in the pricing of the 4 and 5. And the 7, if you count tablets. It's not unreasonable to expect the current pricing to be similar to the previous model. An increase in price by more than 75 percent is going to alienate a lot of potential customers. Unless I am missing some special feature or part of the specs that give it a leg up over the other flagships. I'm not a Samsung fan at all, but at least they have the S-Pen and camera going for them.