___ What steps would you take to build a bullEt-proof system? ___

Blain

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Mission: Build a bullEt-proof system for a business
Issue 1: Data integrity
Issue 2: Idiot-proof operation

I understand that if there is no budget you guys can dream up all kinds of exotic ways to keep critical data safe.
But let's pretend we're in the real world, where "reasonable" measures are considered.

Step 1. I'd use a good UPS.
Step 2. Of course I'd setup a RAID 1 array (HDs with 5 year warranty).
Step 3. I wouldn't OC at all.

Next?
 

StanFL

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What's the role of this box? Server or Workstation?

If the answer is server, and you have no real world experience building them (servers, not PC's) have em get a Dell or HP configured to the needed spec's.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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1) Spell check.
2) No internet access.
3) RAID 6 array with dedicated PSU for hds

Idiot-proof operation though? It's amazing hard to build machines for idiots. You tend to under-estimate what they are capable of.

That's my idea of a bullet-proof system.
 

cKGunslinger

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Well first, I'd *not* post titles with extraneous characters to draw attention to my thread. Second, if I did do that, I'd at least make sure I spelled my title correctly, since I'm going to draw so much attention to it.

No internet, no Windows OS, raid storage, automated backups, imposing security and rights restrictions.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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1. Build case out of bulletproof glass
2. Surround that with another layer of bulletproof material of some kind
3. Place in an electrified fence to keep the idiots away
 

Blain

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Routinely back up data (nightly)

No computer is bullet proof or idiot proof, and sh$t breaks
An idiot-proof system would make automatic backups.
I understand that things break. That's the reason for RAID 1.

 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: Blain
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Routinely back up data (nightly)

No computer is bullet proof or idiot proof, and sh$t breaks
An idiot-proof system would make automatic backups.
I understand that things break. That's the reason for RAID 1.

RAID 1 is pretty good, but I know some servers use a tape backup system. That seems to work pretty well if everything somehow dies at the same time.
 

ShellGuy

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for a bullet proof system you would need to make sure of a few things you have a Bios pasword that is alphanumeric with symbols if possable. Second is to be sure that you can't boot from usb, floppy, or optical. Only Hdd. Next is that the box be under lock and key so that no unwated person has physical access to the box. Next is to remove all rights from all users but read access. Then you get in to the hardware of it. You can be looking at redundent powersupplys as well as Raid 1 as you stated. Nightly backups and if you have the network bandwith dual backup with one going offsite.


JUST for starters.

Will G.
 

Kwad Guy

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There's way too little info in the original post to really answer this. In particular, is this machine going to be storing unique data (backups required), or is it just going to be used as a facility (i.e. readonly data access)?

Most commonly, of course, machine will be access in read/write mode and backups are required. In that case, I'd start with this:

1) Get a high quality UPS to run the machine
2) Run Raid 5
3) Do nightly external backups which are moved OFF SITE. (Either tapes, an on-line backup repository, or external hard drive that you remove from the premises). Don't forget that lightning strikes can fry EVERYTHING attached to the PC, powered at the time or not and that a fire or flood can destroy everything on the site. If you do incremental backups, be sure to do periodic full backups to prevent issues due to corruption of incremental backups.
4) Depending on what apps are required, preference would be for Linux in terms of system stability, but typically the apps are going to determine the system, not vice-versa.
5) Remove or lock from the user the CD-rom, the floppy, the USB and any other external ports that could be used to input data to the PC.
6) Install only what is needed on the PC and nothing else.
7) Stick with stock server-quality components that work well together, e.g. a field tested Intel motherboard with an Intel processor. Do NOT go with the latest and greatest; a half generation (or sometimes even full generation or more) behind is absolutely fine and preferable because those components will have proven themselves (or not) by that point. Get a server quality case with good ventilation. Don't even think about stuff like overclocking. If the apps to be run on the PC are not graphic-intensive, get a card that runs cooler and draws less current rather than the latest/greatest/hottest running card on the market. Use ECC memory.

That is only some of the basics. In terms of bullet-proofing the OS/apps...it's basically impossible. You cannot underestimate the computer stupidity of some users. But if the users only need to access a small, select set of apps, you can design a desktop that only allows them to access these apps and no others.

Kwad
 

Rubycon

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RAID 51+1 (Dual Duplex controllers)

10Gbps SAN offsite instantaneous backup and tracking.

Capacitive input on screen or active (eyeball traced pointing) prevents spread of germs through touching peripherals, etc.

About $750k.
 
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