A big thanks to all the drug addicts

tcsenter

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One of my molars started to develop an abscess last week. On Friday, I got in to see the dentist because I knew it would become an emergency if I sat on it over the weekend. It had already been bothering me about three days and getting more painful by the hour. By this time, I was taking 600mg ~ 800mg ibuprofen in one dose and it wasn't doing much except burning my stomach.

Of course, the infection had to be treated before they could fix the tooth, so he told me he would write a prescription for penicillin and something for pain, then I could make an appointment to have a root canal and new crown. I specifically told the dentist I was already taking up to 800mg ibuprofen without much effect and that I would appreciate if he could give me something stronger because this was going to get a lot worse before it got better. He nods as he is walking away but I don't know whether he heard me or was just giving one of those "whatever you said" nods.

So what does he prescribe for pain? 800mg ibuprofen. I told the assistant/technician or whatever she was (the dentist was with a patient by that time):

- I already have a big bottle of ibuprofen from Costco that is cheaper
- Ibuprofen is not enough for the pain I'm having RIGHT NOW
- This is going to get a lot worse before the penicillin kicks in

She muttered "OK, we'll get you set up with an appointment to fix that tooth" and promptly walked away. WTF?

I've had rejections from women at the bar that were less blunt. I'm not kidding! I was completely stymied by how blatantly she blew me off.

My history with this dentist:

Between 2004 ~ 2006, I dropped more than $5,000 at this dental practice over approx. 12 appointments (though this particular doctor was new since my last visit). I have no insurance, this was cash out of my pocket (paid in installments). I've never requested pain killers before from them.

IOW, they had absolutely ZERO reason to suspect I was a drug seeker or not to prescribe a limited quantity of opiate analgesics. I am not one to make a big stink or be demanding. I say what I have to say, but don't push it if that doesn't get results. I got my appointment and left, hoping for the best.

Well, as I damned well knew would happen, I was writhing in pain all f-cking night Friday to Saturday morning, alternating between hot and cold packs on the side of my face. I soaked half-of a cotton ball with Ambesol and stuffed it over the tooth inside my cheek a couple times. I took about 2400mg ibuprofen between 6:00PM Friday and 5:00AM Saturday, which I'm sure my liver was thrilled about. Finally, around 6:00AM Saturday morning, I f-cking passed out and slept for about eight hours. It was better when I woke up but not hugely better (you are happy for even a little relief when you're in that much pain).

By Saturday evening, the infection spread from the tooth to the side of my face. It almost seems as though the infection 'moved' from the molar to my face, because the tooth felt 80% better while my face was feeling as though someone smacked me with a board. And looked like it, too. Although the pain is pretty much 90% gone (my face is sore as hell but doesn't actually hurt unless I push on it or open my mouth), I'm still G-D furious about it when I KNEW this would happen. Its not the first abscessed tooth I've had, though by far the worst I've ever had. They always get MUCH WORSE before they get better.

If you are telling the doctor "Drug XYZ is not effective RIGHT NOW" and he sends you out the door with that drug, it should be legal to beat the shit out of not only him but at least two drug addicts who are to blame for doctor's extreme fear of liability. Oh but the drug addicts would like that, wouldn't they? They would be in the ER screaming "The pain! I can't take the pain!" and the doctor would give them opiates just to shut their worthless asses up. I'm seeing more appeal to China's solution for drug addicts all the time.

From now on, whenever a doctor or dentist asks if I'm allergic to any drugs, I'm going to lie and tell them I'm deathly allergic to IBUPROFEN. And dextropropoxyphene, too, that useless sh-t is no more effective than aspirin.
 

Eli

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:laugh:

9/10

Edit: In all seriousness, you took it in the ass. I would have bitched until they gave me a minimum prescription for hydrocodone at least.

No addict would have been happy with a prescription for ten 5mg pills.
 

aircooled

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Time to get a new dentist. I had an abscess earlier this year and my dentist wrote me a script for hydro without me having to ask for it.

 

PottedMeat

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Heh I had an infected tooth and the dentist just gave me a hydrocodone prescription without asking along with the antibiotic. I guess it just depends on the dentist. Have you tried that Orastat stuff? It helps a little. And goddamn 2.4g Ibuprofen is a lot!
 

Colt45

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Go downtown and pick up a bottle of percs, if the dentist won't give you any.
 

tcsenter

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OK, thank you, I know you all are trying to be conversational, but please no more people tell me how easily their dentists dispense hydro. I'm almost ready to go wait for him in the parking lot when he arrives for work this morning and jack his ass up!
 

Jimmah

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I use muscle relaxants in times like these. 2 or 3 every few hours really helps, unless it's full body pain then I'm SOL.
 

allisolm

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I had dental surgery almost a month ago. The doctor prescribed hydrocodone and I filled the prescription. The very next day I fell and broke my arm - for which the surgeon prescribed hydrocodone. Don't you know I felt like they were all looking at me and thinking "doctor shopper" in the pharmacy when I filled the second prescription for hydrocodone from a different doctor in as many days.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: allisolm
I had dental surgery almost a month ago. The doctor prescribed hydrocodone and I filled the prescription. The very next day I fell and broke my arm - for which the surgeon prescribed hydrocodone. Don't you know I felt like they were all looking at me and thinking "doctor shopper" in the pharmacy when I filled the second prescription for hydrocodone from a different doctor in as many days.

You should have asked them if there was a limit on that stuff... and then tried to get real chummy with the pharmacist.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: aircooled
Time to get a new dentist. I had an abscess earlier this year and my dentist wrote me a script for hydro without me having to ask for it.

This.

It's got nothing to do with not catering to drug addicts. The dentist/his staff just have no compassion.

So how is the swelling on your face now? Did you go to the ER? This is really a dangerous situation. It could kill you.

edit: Also be careful of using the ibuprofen at such a dose for an extended period of time. You are really risking a stomach bleed. (Especially if you aren't eating/drinking like you should)
 

allisolm

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Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: allisolm
I had dental surgery almost a month ago. The doctor prescribed hydrocodone and I filled the prescription. The very next day I fell and broke my arm - for which the surgeon prescribed hydrocodone. Don't you know I felt like they were all looking at me and thinking "doctor shopper" in the pharmacy when I filled the second prescription for hydrocodone from a different doctor in as many days.

You should have asked them if there was a limit on that stuff... and then tried to get real chummy with the pharmacist.

They probably put a note in my file - patient got prescription for 12 hydrocone, nonrefillable. Not enough so got another prescription for 60 refillable. Keep an eye on her! :laugh:
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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Man, you need to move to a democratic country.

Here in Oz we can get codeine over the counter.

And none of that fascist "we want your licence" crap.

 

Eli

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Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Man, you need to move to a democratic country.

Here in Oz we can get codeine over the counter.

And none of that fascist "we want your licence" crap.
Hmm..

Nice.
 

SearchMaster

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I get gout from time to time (every couple of years or so), and the intense pain usually lasts a couple of days. The last time I went to the doctor, he gave me a scrip for like 50 hydrocodone. WTF - that's enough to last a lifetime for me.
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Man, you need to move to a democratic country.

Here in Oz we can get codeine over the counter.

And none of that fascist "we want your licence" crap.
Hmm..

Nice.

No shit.

You keep your guns, we'll keep our good and cheap drugs.

And our free television where the goverment can't stop network tv from "immoral" swearing and violence. If it's after 8:30 they drop as many f-bombs as they like.

Democracy FTW.
 

tcsenter

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Go downtown and pick up a bottle of percs, if the dentist won't give you any.
I wouldn't know where to go or a trustworthy source. I probably would have caused an accident or gotten pulled over for driving erratically, I was so freaking stressed out and distracted. All I could do was lie down with a hot/cold pack on my face or pace back and forth.

You try phoning him and bitching?
Office closes for the weekend at 5:30 or 6:00 PM Friday.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
I'm almost ready to go wait for him in the parking lot when he arrives for work this morning and jack his ass up!

If you do this, be sure to leave him a bottle of Advil for the pain.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: tcsenter
I'm almost ready to go wait for him in the parking lot when he arrives for work this morning and jack his ass up!

If you do this, be sure to leave him a bottle of Advil for the pain.
Hahaha...

:thumbsup:
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Man, you need to move to a democratic country.

Here in Oz we can get codeine over the counter.

And none of that fascist "we want your licence" crap.
Hmm..

Nice.

No shit.

You keep your guns, we'll keep our good and cheap drugs.

And our free television where the goverment can't stop network tv from "immoral" swearing and violence. If it's after 8:30 they drop as many f-bombs as they like.

Democracy FTW.

where do you live?
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Man, you need to move to a democratic country.

Here in Oz we can get codeine over the counter.

And none of that fascist "we want your licence" crap.
Hmm..

Nice.

No shit.

You keep your guns, we'll keep our good and cheap drugs.

And our free television where the goverment can't stop network tv from "immoral" swearing and violence. If it's after 8:30 they drop as many f-bombs as they like.

Democracy FTW.

where do you live?

Australia.

Edit - Oz = Australia, not the land of Oz.
 

keird

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We get drug seekers in the ER repeatedly. After a recent bust of 30 suspects in the same town, ER admissions for 'pain' among the younger crowd increased noticeably.

One of my favorite docs was renown for not giving narcotic scripts. To the point where drug seekers would walk in the ER, make a vague complaint, find out who the physician on duty was and promptly leave. She was awesome and would offer Tylenol and Motrin, of course. For dental pain she would suggest Xylocaine injected in the gum. Some of these tatoo'd folks would urgently state that they couldn't stand needles and she would counter, "Unfortunately there's nothing else I can offer you." Despite all the tattoos and broken teeth from various assaults, they can't stand a needle that offers immediate relief?

Look, the ER is not the place you come for dental pain.

To the OP: Why didn't you beg for Novocain? It's non-narcotic, offers immediate relief and shows the dentist that you are sincerely in excruciating pain. That may open the door for narcotic pain relief on subsequent visits.



 

RadiclDreamer

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Originally posted by: tcsenter


From now on, whenever a doctor or dentist asks if I'm allergic to any drugs, I'm going to lie and tell them I'm deathly allergic to IBUPROFEN. And dextropropoxyphene, too, that useless sh-t is no more effective than aspirin.

That just makes it worse, working in a hospital I can tell you thats the first things the addicts try, they say they are allergic to everything except drug X they want.

You do have the right to pain management though, I would be speaking very seriously with the dentist about this.
 
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