A bunch of different religious freebies

[SoylentGreen]

Lord, Bless This Home" Prayer Poster
http://www.integritychurch.org/form2.html

The Mormons want to send you a bible
http://www.mormon.org/holybible

And "Book Of Mormon"
http://www.mormon.org/freeBookofMormon/1,10120,1405-1-959-794,00.html

Become a legally ordained minister FREE!
http://www.universalministries.com/doctrine.cfm
http://www.ulc.org/
http://www.spiritualhumanism.org/

FREE copy of the 32-page children's book, Red Boots for Christmas
http://mall.gtw.net/lhm/rb/freebook.asp

Free Jesus Button
http://www.jesusbuttons.com/free_button.html

Free Koran
http://www.freekoran.com/

Get Your Very Own Free Rosh Hashanah Poster!
http://www.jewishnewyear.com/holidays/tishrei/4813



My compliments to Kiyup for presenting many freebies for different beliefs. Once again, it is the immature people of this forum that has gotten this locked with their flame throwers.

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[Royboy81]

How about "spiritual" freebies - just my 2¢...

 

[hollowman]

i thought religious stuff were not allowed to post here?

 

[SoylentGreen]

Originally posted by: hollowman
i thought religious stuff were not allowed to post here?

Why not?

 

[Salvador]

Please don't post this..

Sal

 

[OulOat]

Well, there is stuff from different religions, he is trying to something decent

 

[OrlandoTiger]

Fyi for those who might not know on the bible offer...The mormon bible has substantially changed the text and intent of the traditional bible you'll find in the King James version(which most are familar with),or an easier to read translation-the New King James version or New International Version (NIV).All of those can be had cheap at many places in paperback and remain true to the meaning of scriptures on which they were based in Hebrew and Greek.

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Originally posted by: OrlandoTiger
Fyi for those who might not know on the bible offer...The mormon bible has substantially changed the text and intent of the traditional bible you'll find in the King James version(which most are familar with),or an easier to read translation-the New King James version or New International Version (NIV).All of those can be had cheap at many places in paperback and remain true to the meaning of scriptures on which they were based in Hebrew and Greek.

Unfortunately, like ALL translated works of fiction, the original author's actual meaning is frequently altered or not fully conveyed when his words and phrases are replaced by those of a different language. Frequently, there are idioms and words that just do not translate at all, and have a connotative meaning that can only be understood in the cultural and syntactic context of the original language. Thus anyone who reads religious texts that are translated to English cannot possibly be following the divinely inspired word of Whoever, because by definition, a translated "bible" is not "true to the word," open to interpretation, and is frequently open to misreading. Look at how many different offshoots and variations there are to the "Bible religions" as a result -- interesting how such a perfect God could allow such imperfect and multiple translations to take place, knowing full-well that the translated versions would be the only way people could truly learn about Him.......

Valsalva

 

[OrlandoTiger]

I agree that the meaning is sometimes hard to convey in a different language and culture.I could cite examples.However thats very different than adding to the words,and changing words contained in the original scriptures which the mormons have done in their translation.If someone wants the mormon version thats fine,I only posted my comment so they could make an informed choice.Actually you'd be shocked to find the integrity of the scriptures based on the findings of the dead sea scrolls some years back which were word for word identical.
As to your comment about what a perfect God allows,hes allowed an entire world of imperfection (very different than causing it) and many believe the bible is the plan he has to solve all that imperfection.Here's my bump for spiritual and non spiritual freebies on the forum.

 

[AgentDib]

I think this is a fine post - you don't need to be religious to read one of these books. I'm not muslim but i've read portions of the koran and consider myself better informed because of it, the same goes with the other books listed here. And yes, if you are going to read one of these books as a representative of a religion you may want to make sure which religion it belongs to.

 

[r1013a]

Its hard to read Bible after Bible with them all different. Most of them going against the other. Take for example all the Christian Bibles that have came out over the last 100 years. There are hundreds of them. Each and every one including the catholic Bible were taken from the same manuscripts.. which by the way were found in a trash can out side a monastery. Hum! Must have been some reason it was thrown away!! You can see it in the translations that are out today. They are full of sooo many mistakes. You can put you faith in anyone of them and what ever you believe.. there can be found a contradiction in the same book that proves itself wrong.

I suppose if I trusted one it would be the King James of 1611. There has never been found a contradiction within its pages. All of its predictions up to now have 100% came true. Also.. Its manuscripts are different than any other Christian Bible out there.. they were never found in a trash can. Also If you have ever heard of the Bible codes.. they will only work with the King James manuscripts.. The words were also translated word for word in an easy to read 3rd grade reading level. Unlike books parading as bibles such as the NIV which reads at an 11th grade reading level. The King James stood alone for several hundred years until the last 100 in which so may other were created. It's basically like anything else... It's a money making thing.

Next I guess if I trusted a religious book I would at least pick one written by a God that actually rose from the dead, (which was witnessed by over 200 people)... and not a god that was still dead.

Since so many people seen Jesus arise from the dead...... and all its predictions have came true...... along with the fact that people in the Bible as well as the disciples can be found documented in census records of the time...... I 'd have to say its not a work of fiction either.

But then again we are free to read what ever we want.

Just my 2 cents

 

[breweyez]

Kiyup....the reason you shouldnt post religious deals is because it brings out the jerks like valsalva...we have seen this several times in the past

 

[Nightfall]

Ladies and Gentlemen....please....

Religious Tolerance

 

[oldfart]

Unfortunately, like ALL translated works of fiction

The Christian bible is not a "work of fiction".

 

[Racketear]

Originally posted by: oldfart

Unfortunately, like ALL translated works of fiction

The Christian bible is not a "work of fiction".

Thats where you are wrong. The bible is fiction, and just a story book telling you how to live life. If the bible wasnt, why wouldn noahs ark be found by now, because the thing had to be the size of 6 football stadiums, to support all the lifeforms on this planet.

 

[Gnurb]

Originally posted by: Racketear

Originally posted by: oldfart

Unfortunately, like ALL translated works of fiction

The Christian bible is not a "work of fiction".

Thats where you are wrong. The bible is fiction, and just a story book telling you how to live life. If the bible wasnt, why wouldn noahs ark be found by now, because the thing had to be the size of 6 football stadiums, to support all the lifeforms on this planet.

The religious tolerance site really has the right idea. Can either of you decisively prove anything? No. So stop bickering needlessly, and be happy that everyone has different opinions, without having to be so insecure in your own opinions as to fervently promote your ideas onto others. Freedom of expression is good, telling peoepl that their religious or lack of religious beliefs is wrong is just rude.

Thanks for the deals Kiyup!

 

[KC5AV]

Originally posted by: r1013a
Its hard to read Bible after Bible with them all different. Most of them going against the other. Take for example all the Christian Bibles that have came out over the last 100 years. There are hundreds of them. Each and every one including the catholic Bible were taken from the same manuscripts.. which by the way were found in a trash can out side a monastery. Hum! Must have been some reason it was thrown away!! You can see it in the translations that are out today. They are full of sooo many mistakes. You can put you faith in anyone of them and what ever you believe.. there can be found a contradiction in the same book that proves itself wrong.

Care to back up these claims with addresses? I've read KJV, NIV, NAS, NKJV, and others... never found anything that is a contradiction. I'd be interested to see what you think.

 

[CASRA888]

Ok, I'm hearing all this.

>Next I guess if I trusted a religious book I would at least pick one written by a God that actually rose from the dead, (which was >witnessed by over 200 people)... and not a god that was still dead.

Prove he's not, please.

>Since so many people seen Jesus arise from the dead...... and all its predictions have came true...... along with the fact that people in >the Bible as well as the disciples can be found documented in census records of the time...... I 'd have to say its not a work of fiction >either.

So far, there is a complete absence of any proof whatsoever for any of this at all.
Where is your all powerful and all seeing god when a little child gets raped?
If, as you claim, he is all powerful and all seeing, he's watching and choosing to do nothing.
Last time I checked, that makes him an accessory to the crime.
In other words, he'd be convicted of innumerable sex crimes.
Ever notice that not only does the bible NOT speak out against slavery, it explains in detail how you should handle them.
If your god did exist, it would be the obligation of any decent person to kill him.

"God is the Santa Claus for grownups" - Unknown
"The more people believe in something, the more I question it" - Penn Gillette
"If the bible proves god's existence, then comic books prove superman is alive and well" - Unknown
" I say that we are both atheists, you reject all but one god, I only make a single step further and throw off the chains of oppression by reject one more then you do." - Unknown and paraphrased

 

[SoylentGreen]

Hey people:

There are links for free stuff if you want them.
There are links for free stuff if you don't want them.

If you want them, great. I appreciate the thank yous for directing you to them.

If you don't want them, click back to the forum parent and find another hot deal you do want. This isn't the venue to spout off your opinion. Go make a religion thread in OT.

Thank you and drive through.

 

[WHipLAsh13]

Hmmmm.... Off Topic maybe. Religious threads never work in the Hot Deal forum. There are way too many opinions and beliefs about religions and it is a very sore topic for most. Let the people who are interested in the deal comment on it. If you're not interested in it for one reason or another move on to the next thread or post something in Off Topic about your religious beliefs if you feel you need to convey them to the community. Someone make me a mod already since you guys make me sound like one.

 

[festerbestertester]

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Originally posted by: OrlandoTiger
Fyi for those who might not know on the bible offer...The mormon bible has substantially changed the text and intent of the traditional bible you'll find in the King James version(which most are familar with),or an easier to read translation-the New King James version or New International Version (NIV).All of those can be had cheap at many places in paperback and remain true to the meaning of scriptures on which they were based in Hebrew and Greek.
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Ummm, this is incorrect. The "Mormon bible" is exactly the King James version, which was translated several centuries before the
"Mormon" church was founded. The text is unaltered. However, there are many other English translations which differ substantially
from the King James version, which are promoted by various Protestant religious groups. Perhaps you are thinking of one of these.

 

[Witchdoctor120]

The Book of Mormon is used in addition to the KJV. It is not a translation of the bible at all. Also, the bible in itself is incomplete. The books contain in the bible were selected by man from the Church of England.

 

[Boomer2]

Originally posted by: breweyez
Kiyup....the reason you shouldnt post religious deals is because it brings out the jerks like valsalva...we have seen this several times in the past

That's like saying we shouldn't earn money because it brings out thieves.

The children will be children no matter what the topic. Hopefully the mods will do their job and give the thread crappers a nice, long vacation from the forums.

 

[EXman]

interesting how such a perfect God could allow such imperfect and multiple translations to take place, knowing full-well that the translated versions would be the only way people could truly learn about Him.......

Even a bad Bible does more good than harm. sorry your point doesn't hold water.

nice research by the way on the topic.

too bad about all the thread crapping...

Unfortunately, like ALL translated works of fiction

what would fiction or non fiction have to do with translation? boy your post is pure garbage:|

Thats where you are wrong. The bible is fiction, and just a story book telling you how to live life. If the bible wasnt, why wouldn noahs ark be found by now, because the thing had to be the size of 6 football stadiums, to support all the lifeforms on this planet.

Lil arrogant thinking we would have to have found the Arc by now. There are still so many things that we cannot do, to think otherwise is foolish.:disgust:

If you don't want them, click back to the forum parent and find another hot deal you do want. This isn't the venue to spout off your opinion. Go make a religion thread in OT

AMEN

 

[louiedog]

Originally posted by: EXman

interesting how such a perfect God could allow such imperfect and multiple translations to take place, knowing full-well that the translated versions would be the only way people could truly learn about Him.......

Even a bad Bible does more good than harm. sorry your point doesn't hold water.

nice research by the way on the topic.

too bad about all the thread crapping...

Unfortunately, like ALL translated works of fiction

what would fiction or non fiction have to do with translation? boy your post is pure garbage:|

Thats where you are wrong. The bible is fiction, and just a story book telling you how to live life. If the bible wasnt, why wouldn noahs ark be found by now, because the thing had to be the size of 6 football stadiums, to support all the lifeforms on this planet.

Lil arrogant thinking we would have to have found the Arc by now. There are still so many things that we cannot do, to think otherwise is foolish.:disgust:

If you don't want them, click back to the forum parent and find another hot deal you do want. This isn't the venue to spout off your opinion. Go make a religion thread in OT

AMEN

i think this is why it's a good idea not to start religious threads here... no matter how much we like free stuff.
people get all huffy because someone throws in their opinion and treat them like garbage for voicing that opinion and try to claim their opinion is the correct one. after reading these posts you may want to look up the word opinion at www.dictionary.com (hot deal, free dictionary) and try to understand that calling him ignorant for his views is just as bad, if not worse than what he did because he wasn't insulting anyone. besides.... as a major christian holiday approaches shouldn't all you good little christians be nice to your fellow man?