http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/16/us/snake-salvation-pastor-bite/
The power of brainwashing. His snake handling church will continue, members of his church will probably just say god wanted him in heaven or some other coping mechanism they come up with to try and deal with the fact that reality just smacked them all across the face again (he's not the first idiot snake handler preacher to die). So much for Mark 16:18.
I will tell you what it is. It is a poorly written, badly translated, terribly proof read, anthology. And it may have more mistakes than your post does, per passage.Tell me about it. Telling me I don't what the Bible is, and not offering a single rebuttal about what you think it is, just demonstrates the lack of substance to your post and shows you only want to criticize, not discuss.
Please, educate me on what it is.
I will tell you what it is. It is a poorly written, badly translated, terribly proof read, anthology. And it may have more mistakes than your post does, per passage.
There is a rare collectable version of the bible called the wicked bible. It has the glaring typo 'Thou shall commit adultery".
I knew the tyme when great care was had about printing, the Bibles especially, good compositors and the best correctors were gotten being grave and learned men, the paper and the letter rare, and faire every way of the beste, but now the paper is nought, the composers boyes, and the correctors unlearned.
- George Abbot, the Archbishop of Canterbury
I will tell you what it is. It is a poorly written, badly translated, terribly proof read, anthology. And it may have more mistakes than your post does, per passage.
There is a rare collectable version of the bible called the wicked bible. It has the glaring typo 'Thou shall commit adultery".
I knew the tyme when great care was had about printing, the Bibles especially, good compositors and the best correctors were gotten being grave and learned men, the paper and the letter rare, and faire every way of the beste, but now the paper is nought, the composers boyes, and the correctors unlearned.
- George Abbot, the Archbishop of Canterbury
Which is why scholars go back to the oldest greek or Aramaic versions where possible.
I have yet to read any book that did not have at least one typo in it. So I would not put too much concern over a typo in any versions of the Bible.
You'd think god would proof read his inspried work before being sent out to the masses
You'd think god would proof read his inspired work before being sent out to the masses
He did. Leave it to us imperfect creatures to mess up His Word.
I think we're misunderstanding each other, or I, you.
What I am saying is the book covers, and I am just summing things up, Adam to Abraham (2000 years), and from Abraham to Jesus (2000 years), which amounts to roughly 4000 years...give or take me being off a decade of two.
Adhereing closely to Bible Chronology only, Adam was created some time in 4000 BC, Abraham...after the Flood, which took place sometime during 2000 BC (don't remember the exact date), Jesus was born around 1 C.E, died in 33 CE.
From 4000 BC to 1 CE is 4000 years.
What I'm trying to say is, it's hard to argue that the Bible was vague due to space constraints when it doesn't come anywhere close to trying to give equal space in describing those years. Most of it's blown on the first few chapters on Genesis.
Once we understand what the message of the Bible is, then you'd see clearly why it focuses exclusively on Israel.What the Old Testament does is give a lot of detailed history about the Israeli people starting from Abraham, but very little world history before that.
If that was the point, you'd be right. But from the very beginning concerning the "seed" in Genesis 3:15, the point was apparently to focus of the outworking of the coming of Jesus and salvation, and spreading the message to the rest of the world.If the point was to be relevant to everyone in the world then I think it has actually done a terrible job condensing information.
You'd think an omniscient being would have no trouble preventing imperfect creatures from messing up his word.
why would He make us do specific things? he provided us free will so we can do as we wish. Otherwise, God just created a bunch of robots.
so you agree there is a hell....God provided a way to save you...So he created humanity so the vast majority of us (non christian) can burn in hell forever?
so you agree there is a hell....God provided a way to save you...
Yet you refuse to take hold of that way.....which of course is your free will to do so...
The way I see it you have no right to blame god...it`s your fault....and decision...
No, I don't believe there is a heaven or hell. If there is an afterlife, I don't think it has anything to do with christianity. Remember, the christian god has known us before we were formed in the womb, he is omnipotent and created this vast universe in just seven days. Why can't he get his message across to even a majority of humanity? If the bible is true, I don't see the christian god as loving at all, but more of a sadomasochist.
Of course, I don't believe any of it. I am just trying to imagine how the story of the christian god is about a loving god.
You'd think an omniscient being would have no trouble preventing imperfect creatures from messing up his word.
why would He make us do specific things? he provided us free will so we can do as we wish. Otherwise, God just created a bunch of robots.
He doesn't have to make you do anything specific. He doesn't have to take away your free will. But you'd think if such a being existed, he'd be able to communicate better.
What, a several thousand year old book full of contradictions and lies / inaccuracies isn't good enough for you? I mean, how could you get confused with passages like this? (for the christians here, let me know which of these passages is incorrect please :whiste: )
1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud
1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
Exodus 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
Who said anything about making people do things? How about he just makes it so people can't sin? He already made it so people can't breathe water. He already made it so people can't see infrared with their naked eyes. He already made it so that people can't fly by flapping their arms.why would He make us do specific things?
Removing the freedom to sin would not remove the freedom to choose ham or jam for breakfast. Your reasoning does not follow.he provided us free will so we can do as we wish. Otherwise, God just created a bunch of robots.
Who said anything about making people do things? How about he just makes it so people can't sin? He already made it so people can't breathe water. He already made it so people can't see infrared with their naked eyes. He already made it so that people can't fly by flapping their arms.
There are already tons and tons of things that people can't do, but we're not robots. So why would we suddenly become robots if the list of things we can't do included "sin"?
Removing the freedom to sin would not remove the freedom to choose ham or jam for breakfast. Your reasoning does not follow.
Indeed. At lease 1 of these 3 must be true:The Irony in the whole Free Will argument is that Salvation is essentially the giving up of Free Will.
so you agree there is a hell....God provided a way to save you...
Yet you refuse to take hold of that way.....which of course is your free will to do so...
The way I see it you have no right to blame god...it`s your fault....and decision...
Ahh...the good ole "Free Will with Consequences" bit. Sounds wonderful. Sign me up.
"God has given you free will and a way to save your soul." sounds a lot better than, "God has given you free will, but if you don't think in this one certain way you'll burn forever in eternal torment."
The whole free will argument doesn't add up to me. It isn't free will if there are consequences for using it, is it?