A cpu for gt 630

[wowempire]

Hi ! I'm looking for the cheapest cpu with which i can use that gpu at max. I'd like that cpu to be compatible with "GIGABYTE ga-m61p-s3" ( I got the f7f [latest bios version] ). So, to make myself understood, i need a cheap cpu to fit on my mobo and which dont limit my gpu performances. THE GPU IS 2gb ddr3 version.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Pretty much any modern cpu!!

Seriously, why are you using that gpu at all? If you want to game, you will need a better gpu. If all you want to do is surf the net, You Tube, netflix, etc. you should just go with the igp of the cpu. Even a ivy bridge/haswell celeron or pentium could max out that gpu.

 

[dorion]

You have to stay with that platform? Any AM2 cpu will do. SPCR has one from their reviews for sale on their forums: http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=47169

Can't find an AM2 cpu for less than $25... you really should find a better system.

 

[wowempire]

Pretty much any modern cpu!!

Seriously, why are you using that gpu at all? If you want to game, you will need a better gpu. If all you want to do is surf the net, You Tube, netflix, etc. you should just go with the igp of the cpu. Even a ivy bridge/haswell celeron or pentium could max out that gpu.

Well, an athlon 64 x2 be-2350 cant max it out. And for what i play, that gpu is perfect, why to buy a far better one if i dont need it ?

 

[frozentundra123456]

Well, an athlon 64 x2 be-2350 cant max it out. And for what i play, that gpu is perfect, why to buy a far better one if i dont need it ?

If you are happy with it, that is fine. My point was that the GT630 is probably weaker than the igp on top of the line AMD APUs, and only slightly faster than the igp on Intel's haswell, HD4600. So I dont know how much gain you will see by upgrading the cpu without a corresponding gpu upgrade also. It all depends on what games you play, resolution and quality settings of course, but if you get a fast cpu you will then be gpu limited.

 

[wowempire]

If you are happy with it, that is fine. My point was that the GT630 is probably weaker than the igp on top of the line AMD APUs, and only slightly faster than the igp on Intel's haswell, HD4600. So I dont know how much gain you will see by upgrading the cpu without a corresponding gpu upgrade also. It all depends on what games you play, resolution and quality settings of course, but if you get a fast cpu you will then be gpu limited.

A neighbour bought a gt 630 the 4gb ddr3 version, he also got a g1620 and 4g ram. His pc run far faster than mine. FAR, like 500% faster. So i guess my cpu is the problem there. I just asked u for a cheap cpu to fit my mobo and to max out that gpu.

 

[Jimzz]

The G1620 is a newer core design, over the older x2 be-2350, and also runs at a faster frequency.

Your board is much older and will only support AM2 CPUs and uses an economy Nvida chipset, so it will not be as fast as a newer system. Look for the fastest Brisbane CPU you can find like the Athlon 64 X2 5600+. Update your Bios to the last firmware version before you upgrade.

$22.50 shipped
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Athlon-...ase-/151260803102?pt=CPUs&hash=item2337d8b01e


Does your board support overclocking? If so save your money for a new system and overclock as best you can.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

A neighbour bought a gt 630 the 4gb ddr3 version, he also got a g1620 and 4g ram. His pc run far faster than mine. FAR, like 500% faster. So i guess my cpu is the problem there. I just asked u for a cheap cpu to fit my mobo and to max out that gpu.

Compared to an old AM2(+) CPU, I can imagine. No matter which AM2 CPU you plug-in, it'll never even approach Celeron G1620 performance.

Another issue might be the amount of RAM, if you're running 2GB and below that could have an impact. Its not worth it to put more RAM in your system, as DDR2 has become quite expensive.

The GT630 is not what I'd call a "gaming" card, also at this performance level the amount of RAM onboard is totally irrelevant. The only use for 3GB+ is 1440p and above gaming, something the GT630 simply can't handle.

The G1620 is a newer core design, over the older x2 be-2350, and also runs at a faster frequency.

Your board is much older and will only support AM2 CPUs and uses an economy Nvida chipset, so it will not be as fast as a newer system. Look for the fastest Brisbane CPU you can find like the Athlon 64 X2 5600+. Update your Bios to the last firmware version before you upgrade.

$22.50 shipped
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Athlon-...ase-/151260803102?pt=CPUs&hash=item2337d8b01e


Does your board support overclocking? If so save your money for a new system and overclock as best you can.

Given that the OP is using an inexpensive nForce 6100/430 board, I don't think overclocking is something that should be relied on. I severely doubt if it's worth it to dump more money into it. Even an inexpensive Athlon 5350 system is going to be better in all parameters...

 

[Roland00Address]

This is a simplistic benchmark, but it gives you an idea in the difference in speed. (Passmark numbers used below)

http://www.passmark.com/index.html

BE-2350
Min Score is 649 in single thread scenarios.
Max Score 1031 in 100% multithread scenarios

One of the newest but cheapest intel processors is G1620 that your friend has, here is the performance

G1620
Min Score is 1453 in single thread scenarios
Max Score is 2682 is 100% multithread scenarios

So your friend cpu is about 2.5 times faster for it does the work in 38% of the time.

Here is your cpu support list for your board. Looking it over here are the fastest cpus your board can do.

AMD 980 Quad Core at 3.7 ghz
Min Score is 1323 in single thread scenarios
Max Score is 4668 in 100% multi threaded scenarios

AMD 1100t Six Core at 3.3 ghz
Min Score is 1270 in single thread scenarios
Max Score is 5912 in 100% multi threaded scenarios

Note even your friend budget cpu, is faster in single threaded performance.

That said if you are looking for a cheap upgrade, any amd AM2 or AM3 cpu that is compatible with your motherboard and is a quad core at 3 ghz or higher will be a massive upgrade. Don't waste money on getting the best like the 980 or 1100t for you will have diminishing returns and the rest of the computer like your motherboard, ddr2, and hypertransport will slow down even those cpus potential. Something like an amd quad core at 3 ghz or better. Here is the numbers for the

AMD 640 Quad Core at 3.0 ghz
Min Score is 1027 in single thread scenarios 58% faster than your current cpu
Max Score is 3349 in 100% multi threaded scenarios. 224% faster than your current cpu.

That said I would not spend more than $60 dollars on any used cpu for your computer.

 

[Jimzz]

^

His board is a AM2 so it will not support the CPUs you listed. Their list has one section for AM2 boards and another for AM3. Brisbane is the fastest he can run from what I see.

 

[Roland00Address]

^

His board is a AM2 so it will not support the CPUs you listed. Their list has one section for AM2 boards and another for AM3. Brisbane is the fastest he can run from what I see.

Here is his cpu support list (I thought I copied the link in the earlier post but apparently I didn't), I also misread the table and thought all the cpus listed are compatible, but it appears only some are compatible. Looks like the amd 945 95w edition is the fastest his board supports.

Regardless get a quad core with a high ghzs but do not spend more than 60 dollars. Do not, do not buy a quad core that is not an athlon ii or phenom 2 and is not above 2.5 ghz for then you are waisting your money.

The cpu Jimzz listed is good for that kind money but I would not spend more than $30 on a dual core that is made by amd and uses ddr2.

 

[wowempire]

This is a simplistic benchmark, but it gives you an idea in the difference in speed. (Passmark numbers used below)

http://www.passmark.com/index.html

BE-2350
Min Score is 649 in single thread scenarios.
Max Score 1031 in 100% multithread scenarios

One of the newest but cheapest intel processors is G1620 that your friend has, here is the performance

G1620
Min Score is 1453 in single thread scenarios
Max Score is 2682 is 100% multithread scenarios

So your friend cpu is about 2.5 times faster for it does the work in 38% of the time.

Here is your cpu support list for your board. Looking it over here are the fastest cpus your board can do.

AMD 980 Quad Core at 3.7 ghz
Min Score is 1323 in single thread scenarios
Max Score is 4668 in 100% multi threaded scenarios

AMD 1100t Six Core at 3.3 ghz
Min Score is 1270 in single thread scenarios
Max Score is 5912 in 100% multi threaded scenarios

Note even your friend budget cpu, is faster in single threaded performance.

That said if you are looking for a cheap upgrade, any amd AM2 or AM3 cpu that is compatible with your motherboard and is a quad core at 3 ghz or higher will be a massive upgrade. Don't waste money on getting the best like the 980 or 1100t for you will have diminishing returns and the rest of the computer like your motherboard, ddr2, and hypertransport will slow down even those cpus potential. Something like an amd quad core at 3 ghz or better. Here is the numbers for the

AMD 640 Quad Core at 3.0 ghz
Min Score is 1027 in single thread scenarios 58% faster than your current cpu
Max Score is 3349 in 100% multi threaded scenarios. 224% faster than your current cpu.

That said I would not spend more than $60 dollars on any used cpu for your computer.

Wow.. that is such a big difference @ single thread . But a combo with an 1150 socket mobo + a g1620 +4gb ram is far more than i would like to spend . Ty all for reply, specially to Roland for that comparison

 

[NTMBK]

^

His board is a AM2 so it will not support the CPUs you listed. Their list has one section for AM2 boards and another for AM3. Brisbane is the fastest he can run from what I see.

Actually, the manufacturer's website lists support for certain Deneb processors. http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=2434 Take care though, they apparently only support certain steppings.

 

[SPBHM]

Phenom II X3 720 should be fine, and it's easy/cheap enough to buy used,

some 95W PII X4 will also work, but considering the revisions available and 125w version I think it's safer/cheaper to go with something like the 720,
also I would skip the PII X4 and Athlon IIs with no l3 cache if you can.

 

[Jimzz]

Actually, the manufacturer's website lists support for certain Deneb processors. http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=2434 Take care though, they apparently only support certain steppings.

Ahh I did not scroll far enough.
Even then I would not try and run a 125watt CPU on that board. Looks like that board only has 3 phase power, I question the safety of a 125w chip on it.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Even then I would not try and run a 125watt CPU on that board. Looks like that board only has 3 phase power, I question the safety of a 125w chip on it.

Using a 125W CPU on that board seems like a recipe for disaster. Just saying. Better to stick with 95W, though I'd prefer 65W to be sure. Do note that the BE-2350 is only a 45W chip...

 

[Erenhardt]

Phenom X4 945 is overkill for that GPU, Should be pretty cheap upgrade. If you want something new and more power efficient, look for AM1 board and athlon 5150/5350.

 

[wowempire]

Phenom X4 945 is overkill for that GPU, Should be pretty cheap upgrade. If you want something new and more power efficient, look for AM1 board and athlon 5150/5350.

U sure ? 5350 @ 2.05 ghz quad core ? and AM1 is a good choice ? Finally it seem like i really have to buy another mobo to get a decent cpu and ofc.. ram for the new mobo . Now tell me, what is better, a g1620/1820/2020 or athlon 5150/5350

 

[Insert_Nickname]

U sure ? 5350 @ 2.05 ghz quad core ? and AM1 is a good choice ? Finally it seem like i really have to buy another mobo to get a decent cpu and ofc.. ram for the new mobo . Now tell me, what is better, a g1620/1820/2020 or athlon 5150/5350

I'd say the G1820, or whichever LGA-1150 Celeron variant is cheaper. Don't bother with LGA-1155 chips at this point. You get more features with LGA-1150 on the low-end.

You can actually game on an Athlon 5350. There was a test combining a 5350 with a GTX750TI, for what it is the results where actually pretty good. The Jaguar core (5350) has slightly better IPC then K8 (which your CPU is based on), two more cores and only a 50MHz deficit in clockspeed. It also has an onboard GPU, that's almost as good as the GT630. All wrapped in a TDP that is 20W lower then what you have currently. It gets even better when you add the 50/60W TDP of your GT630 (depending on variant). How's that for progress...?

Though since you already have the GT630, its better to pair it with a Celeron.

 

[SPBHM]

PII X4 is not overkill for a GT 630 in many games, at playable settings, 5350 is much slower than Phenom II... and a Phenom II upgrade is cheaper, if you select the right parts.

 

[wowempire]

Hey, what about a phenom ii x2 550 be ?? It got 6mb l3 cache, 3,1ghz 80w tdp ? Is that a good choice ? It is really cheap.. it seem like a good one, just tell me

 

[SPBHM]

Hey, what about a phenom ii x2 550 be ?? It got 6mb l3 cache, 3,1ghz 80w tdp ? Is that a good choice ? It is really cheap.. it seem like a good one, just tell me

if it's absurdly cheap, why not, it's much faster than what you have, but some Phenom II X3 and X4 are also quite cheap and more competent for newer games, I think you can get the 720 for something like $40 on ebay.

 

[NTMBK]

Depends on prices. You definitely want a Phenom II at 3GHz, minimum, but whether you go for 2, 3 or 4 cores depends on how much you want to spend and how much the price difference is. Shop around

 

[wowempire]

if it's absurdly cheap, why not, it's much faster than what you have, but some Phenom II X3 and X4 are also quite cheap and more competent for newer games, I think you can get the 720 for something like $40 on ebay.

Ok, thank everyone, i found the best performance/price cpu i can buy ,i mean x3 720 is only 50$ and it get 6mb l3 cache
If i get a x3 720 BE, i can unlock the 4th core ? Unless so, atleast i can overclock it ? I have a gigabyte ga-m61p-s3.

 

[SPBHM]

Ok, thank everyone, i found the best performance/price cpu i can buy ,i mean x3 720 is only 50$ and it get 6mb l3 cache
If i get a x3 720 BE, i can unlock the 4th core ? Unless so, atleast i can overclock it ? I have a gigabyte ga-m61p-s3.

about unlocking cores I don't think so, your motherboard needs to support this "feature", and I don't think your board can do that,

overclocking is possible, but, most 720s are older chips (one of the reasons I'm recommending, since your board don't seem to have compatibility with some newer revisions) and I remember seeing many unable to really go over something like 3.3GHz, if you buy a PII make sure you have the latest bios before removing the Athlon 64 X2.

also your motherboard is going to be near the limit with a stock PII, so overclocking needs to be done carefully, and making sure you are cooling the MB VRMs properly.

but... as a cheap solution I think it's good, ideally for this MB you would get a PII X4 945 95W, but it's normally not as cheap, and makes upgrading not only the CPU but also MB more interesting,

I think the PII X3 is clearly better than a PII X2, or any athlon 64, and depending on the game also better than any AII X4 because of the l3 cache.
and it's cheap.