A gem from Newegg reviews

[taltamir]

They probably are, about 8 years ago I remember working on a PC and the heatsink wasn't really on right. I was tired as hell and thought I used the clips on the heatsink but I guess I didn't, the PC was on it's side so the heatsink didn't fall off. After I thought I had the heatsink on I tried turning the system on, it would come on for a second then just turn off. Which makes me think there's some sort of pressure sensor on motherboards to make sure the heatsink is on right. Maybe there isn't but the PC came on fine right after I installed the heatsink correctly...

Back in the day, a CPU will fry within seconds without a heatsink. As in, you smell burnt stuff and its dead.

Later you had a shutoff safety where if a chip got above a certain temp it turns off the system, this is the "it turns off after one second" thing. You are not the only to have seen it. Some overclocker nuts recommended you disable that (in mobo) because they (wrongly) believe that it allows them greater OC. All it allows is burnt chips.

AFAIK current generation chips would just underclock and undervolt themselves like crazy, it will run but it will be extremely slow. This is what the newegg reviewer saw. Its not a troll, he is just ignorant...
Specifically, he assumed that became it came without a heatsink he should use it without one.

 

[Lonbjerg]

I would be surprised if you didn't instantly roast a 95w processor by powering it on with no heatsink.

Gotta be a troll...

Well you must have been sleeping since PIII.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI

 

[Acanthus]

Well you must have been sleeping since PIII.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI

I will concede that the CPU can survive such a scenario, but it is still ridiculously dangerous for the CPU to run it without a heatsink, even for a few seconds. Especially as TDP's continue to rise on high end CPUs as time goes on. Throttling and undervolting can only go so far...

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

I'm surprised that it ran. I had an Athlon64, even if the HS fan didn't turn it wouldn't POST at all.

 

[taltamir]

Well you must have been sleeping since PIII.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI

notice that the athlon, lacking thermal protection immediately started going up in smoke and measured 300 degrees celsius.
The P3 with proper thermal protection just super underclocked itself so that performance suffered a lot but nothing was harmed, it stayed under 80C.
P3 and athlon1 are really old though.
Even older intel CPUs would burn up as well, modern AMD CPUs no longer burn up.

 

[bononos]

Even if the PIII can automatically underclock to run below 80C without a heatsink, that hot cpu is pretty much junk in my eyes. Its taking a beating all the while running at the cusp of 80C much like barely redlining an engine.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Even if the PIII can automatically underclock to run below 80C without a heatsink, that hot cpu is pretty much junk in my eyes. Its taking a beating all the while running at the cusp of 80C much like barely redlining an engine.

80C is not redlining for a mordern CPU, it not about you fuzzy warm feelings, by physics.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1035155055&postcount=8

Temp is not the killer...Vcore is.

 

[taltamir]

80C is not redlining for a mordern CPU, it not about you fuzzy warm feelings, by physics.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1035155055&postcount=8

Temp is not the killer...Vcore is.

That is you grossly misinterpreting information.
Both temp and vcore can kill CPUs. Temp doesn't in modern CPUs because they are limited, severely, in how hot they are allowed to get. Not because physics says you can't burn a CPU with heat and "warm fuzzy feelings vs science".
Hint: Always beware people who shoot you down with "science says"

Running at 80 is not like redlining a car though. Running at 110 is.
The burned out CPUs did over 350 degrees celsius just FYI.

 

[Lonbjerg]

That is you grossly misinterpreting information.
Both temp and vcore can kill CPUs. Temp doesn't in modern CPUs because they are limited, severely, in how hot they are allowed to get. Not because physics says you can't burn a CPU with heat and "warm fuzzy feelings vs science".
Hint: Always beware people who shoot you down with "science says"

Running at 80 is not like redlining a car though. Running at 110 is.
The burned out CPUs did over 350 degrees celsius just FYI.

You try and hit 100C on a mordern CPU...and stop putting words into my mouth.

 

[bononos]

80C is not redlining for a mordern CPU, it not about you fuzzy warm feelings, by physics.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1035155055&postcount=8

Temp is not the killer...Vcore is.

Not sure what you mean by "it not about you fuzzy warm feelings" or if you were just being impertinent.

I forgot that the PIII had higher tcase temps than some 'modern cpu's like the SB's.

 

[ArchAngel777]

I am coming a bit later to the party (didn't read anything except the initial post) but I can say that this guy was kidding. Even with a heatsink and good contact, a 130 watt TDP chip would hit 100c within seconds.

 

[ArchAngel777]

You try and hit 100C on a mordern CPU...and stop putting words into my mouth.

My Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz at 1.3v hit 100c in about 6 seconds with my Thermalright SI-128SE cooler when I forgot to plug in the fan. Guess what? BIOS reported 100C and if that wasn't evidence enough, when I immediately hit the power switch and touched a heat pipe, I burned my finger badly. It was scorching hot. I thought I fried my chip... the sense of dread kicked in... But, guess what? She is went on to hit 3.73Ghz @ 1.54v on water to run that way for over a year (or two? I can't remember how long I ran my water rig), before I gave her to my dad who runs it at a more conservative 3.2Ghz. After 4 years, it is still going strong! Amazing stuff!

 

[sm625]

I wonder if an undervolted G440 can run without a hsf? Just sitting idle at the desktop.

 

[kylejmck]

In my defense, I hadn't built a computer in years. When battlefield 3 came out and I just bought what I thought was the best of everything. The processor didn't come with a heatsink, so I gave it a shot. Didn't work out as planned, so I went out and bought one. If it ruined the processor without a heatsink, I would just order another

It wasn't a troll review.

Sure it might be common sense for you guys, but yeah I was indeed "ignorant" of the matter because I haven't kept up with technology in quite awhile. My bad.

 

[MrMaestro]

This one made me lol. For the Sapphire 7970:

Pros: So I've had this for 2 days and it plays all my emulated N64 and PSX games at 60FPS! SO sweet! I'm soooo happy with it! It even play golden eye 007 and Super Mario 64!! WOW

Cons: I still have problems with games crashing and some problems with saving I hoped this thing would fix =/

Other Thoughts: I figured I'd need the best so I looked at the most expensive and it doesn't disappoint! I think this thing could have been cheaper but hell you pay for the best!! Now excuse me while I go beat Bowser!!

And he got almost all thumbs down. Some people just don't appreciate a little bit of humour...

 

[sm625]

lol wow a GeForce 5700LE can run N64 emulator at good framerates. On my notebook with intel G45 chipset it runs fine, with 25% cpu usage.

 

[Rvenger]

In my defense, I hadn't built a computer in years. When battlefield 3 came out and I just bought what I thought was the best of everything. The processor didn't come with a heatsink, so I gave it a shot. Didn't work out as planned, so I went out and bought one. If it ruined the processor without a heatsink, I would just order another

It wasn't a troll review.

Sure it might be common sense for you guys, but yeah I was indeed "ignorant" of the matter because I haven't kept up with technology in quite awhile. My bad.

Well, guys theres your answer. Don't hate on the newegg reviewers. lol

 

[badb0y]

Posting in a legendary thread

 

[HopJokey]

In my defense, I hadn't built a computer in years. When battlefield 3 came out and I just bought what I thought was the best of everything. The processor didn't come with a heatsink, so I gave it a shot. Didn't work out as planned, so I went out and bought one. If it ruined the processor without a heatsink, I would just order another

It wasn't a troll review.

Sure it might be common sense for you guys, but yeah I was indeed "ignorant" of the matter because I haven't kept up with technology in quite awhile. My bad.

Wow how did you find out about this thread?

 

[ThatsABigOne]

In my defense, I hadn't built a computer in years. When battlefield 3 came out and I just bought what I thought was the best of everything. The processor didn't come with a heatsink, so I gave it a shot. Didn't work out as planned, so I went out and bought one. If it ruined the processor without a heatsink, I would just order another

It wasn't a troll review.

Sure it might be common sense for you guys, but yeah I was indeed "ignorant" of the matter because I haven't kept up with technology in quite awhile. My bad.

Haha! very good comeback!

 

[frostedflakes]

In my defense, I hadn't built a computer in years. When battlefield 3 came out and I just bought what I thought was the best of everything. The processor didn't come with a heatsink, so I gave it a shot. Didn't work out as planned, so I went out and bought one. If it ruined the processor without a heatsink, I would just order another

It wasn't a troll review.

Sure it might be common sense for you guys, but yeah I was indeed "ignorant" of the matter because I haven't kept up with technology in quite awhile. My bad.

 

[Lonbjerg]

In my defense, I hadn't built a computer in years. When battlefield 3 came out and I just bought what I thought was the best of everything. The processor didn't come with a heatsink, so I gave it a shot. Didn't work out as planned, so I went out and bought one. If it ruined the processor without a heatsink, I would just order another

It wasn't a troll review.

Sure it might be common sense for you guys, but yeah I was indeed "ignorant" of the matter because I haven't kept up with technology in quite awhile. My bad.

Still dosn't alter the fact that you still felt "knowlegable" enough" to post a review.
There is no problem with being ignorant about a topic...no one can know everything.
But "reviewing" stuff you are ignorant about is a bad idea.

 

[machasm]

This cant be for real surely?
The bloke that posted is some long time forum member up for a laugh, has created a new account and posted.
Suckers

 

[Joseph F]

In my defense, I hadn't built a computer in years. When battlefield 3 came out and I just bought what I thought was the best of everything. The processor didn't come with a heatsink, so I gave it a shot. Didn't work out as planned, so I went out and bought one. If it ruined the processor without a heatsink, I would just order another

It wasn't a troll review.

Sure it might be common sense for you guys, but yeah I was indeed "ignorant" of the matter because I haven't kept up with technology in quite awhile. My bad.

When was the last time you had built one? Back in 1990 when they didn't need them?

Hmm, the thread title won't update.
I think more people would check this out if they could see that he actually came here to defend himself. xD

 

[AdamK47]

This cant be for real surely?
The bloke that posted is some long time forum member up for a laugh, has created a new account and posted.
Suckers

After a month and 1/2 since the last post? Nah.