A house catches on fire in your neighborhood and you're a doctor...what do you do?

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
I'm sorry your neighbor is more successful than you.*

* in response to what this thread is more and more obviously really about.

Not quite. Maybe in a couple years he will be, but right now I'm pretty sure I make more money than him. Not that it matters, but residents don't get paid nearly enough for the work they do. I think it's on the order of 30-40K which is way less than what I make. But again that doesn't really matter. It's his inaction that matters. As a human, a neighbor, I'm just shocked that he didn't care enough to help. But then again, maybe he has his reasons. I just can't think of one that would be compelling enough to ignore something like this.

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: Riceninja
Also OP, you sound increasingly butthurt with each reply. It seems like you started the thread because you thought everyone would be on your side and things just aren't working out for you.

Go watch Lakeview Terrace. You are pretty much Samuel L Jackson's role personified.

You're right. I did start the thread thinking that most living, human beings with a heartbeat would help their neighbor in a time of need. I guess that doesn't apply to ATOT, which is fine since I don't live next to you pussies.

Plus I started the thread after 3 sam adams. Not a good idea, soon enough I shall revert back to my lurking ways and you epussies can go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[Riceninja]

Originally posted by: RKS
The doctor has much legal obligation as the OP does if his neighbor's wireless interweb goes out.

Yeah no kidding. As an ATOT poster, he would be able to help out tremendously. He should have much more knowledge than the average neighbour in regards to networking. He could get there before Geek Squad and help out as best he could.

Even if he wasn't knowledgeable about routers, he could go over there and see what he could do. I would have. He has an OBLIGATION to help as a seasoned internet warrior.

 

[RoloMather]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
I'm sorry your neighbor is more successful than you.*

* in response to what this thread is more and more obviously really about.

Not quite. Maybe in a couple years he will be, but right now I'm pretty sure I make more money than him. Not that it matters, but residents don't get paid nearly enough for the work they do. I think it's on the order of 30-40K which is way less than what I make. But again that doesn't really matter. It's his inaction that matters. As a human, a neighbor, I'm just shocked that he didn't care enough to help. But then again, maybe he has his reasons. I just can't think of one that would be compelling enough to ignore something like this.

Everyone here is saying that it's not your role to judge people. Your wife thinks so too. If you feel that strongly about it, go talk to the guy and express your concerns. Then he'll tell you to MYOB.

Like we all are telling you. MOYB.

 

[KevinCU]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Riceninja
Also OP, you sound increasingly butthurt with each reply. It seems like you started the thread because you thought everyone would be on your side and things just aren't working out for you.

Go watch Lakeview Terrace. You are pretty much Samuel L Jackson's role personified.

You're right. I did start the thread thinking that most living, human beings with a heartbeat would help their neighbor in a time of need. I guess that doesn't apply to ATOT, which is fine since I don't live next to you pussies.

Plus I started the thread after 3 sam adams. Not a good idea, soon enough I shall revert back to my lurking ways and you epussies can go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Three beers severely impairs your ability to rationalize anything and you're calling us pussies? Wtf?

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Riceninja
Also OP, you sound increasingly butthurt with each reply. It seems like you started the thread because you thought everyone would be on your side and things just aren't working out for you.

Go watch Lakeview Terrace. You are pretty much Samuel L Jackson's role personified.

You're right. I did start the thread thinking that most living, human beings with a heartbeat would help their neighbor in a time of need. I guess that doesn't apply to ATOT, which is fine since I don't live next to you pussies.

Plus I started the thread after 3 sam adams. Not a good idea, soon enough I shall revert back to my lurking ways and you epussies can go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

That's fine. You are obviously the type of guy that makes sure he notices what every neighbor does then complains about it and feels the need to tell people about it. The only ones that do that actually have a pussy so yea.........

 

[Legendary]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Riceninja
Also OP, you sound increasingly butthurt with each reply. It seems like you started the thread because you thought everyone would be on your side and things just aren't working out for you.

Go watch Lakeview Terrace. You are pretty much Samuel L Jackson's role personified.

You're right. I did start the thread thinking that most living, human beings with a heartbeat would help their neighbor in a time of need. I guess that doesn't apply to ATOT, which is fine since I don't live next to you pussies.

Plus I started the thread after 3 sam adams. Not a good idea, soon enough I shall revert back to my lurking ways and you epussies can go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

It's simply ridiculous that you go through this thread calling us all pussies when you don't have the stones to go talk to this guy face to face cause of your "introverted ass won't do it"

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: RoloMather

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
I'm sorry your neighbor is more successful than you.*

* in response to what this thread is more and more obviously really about.

Not quite. Maybe in a couple years he will be, but right now I'm pretty sure I make more money than him. Not that it matters, but residents don't get paid nearly enough for the work they do. I think it's on the order of 30-40K which is way less than what I make. But again that doesn't really matter. It's his inaction that matters. As a human, a neighbor, I'm just shocked that he didn't care enough to help. But then again, maybe he has his reasons. I just can't think of one that would be compelling enough to ignore something like this.

Everyone here is saying that it's not your role to judge people. Your wife thinks so too. If you feel that strongly about it, go talk to the guy and express your concerns. Then he'll tell you to MYOB.

Like we all are telling you. MOYB.

Why is that an acceptable excuse? Why is ignoring a burning house acceptable? Why should we just MYOB when someone's house burns down? It's this mindset that sickens me. We've all seen the news story where a woman is raped on a train with bystanders "minding their own business" while it happens. Why is that ok in our society? What kind of demented mind thinks like that? Sure I went to help because that what normal people do. I just don't understand why other people choose to ignore it.

 

[newnameman]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Riceninja
So, exactly what value are you adding to your community, dear distinguished sir?

I and my wife went over to help the young lady. By the time we got there the first responders and her friends had arrived. We didn't notice anything until we heard sirens and went outside and smelled smoke. My wife pointed out to the EMT's the person who needed help. So to answer your question, quite a lot.
And if you're wondering what else we do, we serve on the HOA board and know pretty much all of our neighbors by name. So anythng else you want to know?

Why am I not surprised...

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan
So a house catches on fire in our neighborhood tonight, pretty much destroying the entire house. Smoke is billowing from it and covering our small community. Just about all our neighbors including myself go to check on the occupants, in this case a young lady (no pics). Yet one of our resident doctors (doing his residency here at Duke) continues to mow his grass as if nothing is going on. Fire engines, ambulances, and police have converged on the house a mere block away from him.

Am I right in thinking this guy is an ass? I had a great letter I was going to tape to his door, but my wife won't let me. Should I do it?

The letter:

It's not his job to enter a burning house. Also, once first responders arrive, a doctor is essentially excused from his hipocratic duties (assuming they took them).

A lot depends on how deep they are into their residency: meaning how jaded they have become after responding to emergency situations. usually Good Samaritan laws protect them, but the insurance industry and litigating public have basically waged war on the medical profession over recent decades, essentially sapping their will to do any favors for anyone. Sucks, but there it is.

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Riceninja
Also OP, you sound increasingly butthurt with each reply. It seems like you started the thread because you thought everyone would be on your side and things just aren't working out for you.

Go watch Lakeview Terrace. You are pretty much Samuel L Jackson's role personified.

You're right. I did start the thread thinking that most living, human beings with a heartbeat would help their neighbor in a time of need. I guess that doesn't apply to ATOT, which is fine since I don't live next to you pussies.

Plus I started the thread after 3 sam adams. Not a good idea, soon enough I shall revert back to my lurking ways and you epussies can go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

It's simply ridiculous that you go through this thread calling us all pussies when you don't have the stones to go talk to this guy face to face cause of your "introverted ass won't do it"

A) yeah, I'm introverted like 99% of everyone else here, so sue me. B) he's not home, probably at work tending to the poor burned woman anyways, so I'm an ass. C) I think I might talk to him the next time I see him. I really am curious why he chose not to act. D) yes, you all are pussies since you keep telling me to mind my own business when it's obvious that you are all wrong. It's NOT RIGHT that you ignore a burning house when you have the abilities this person has. Sorry, but there's nothing you can say to me to convince me otherwise that not helping is acceptable.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Riceninja
Also OP, you sound increasingly butthurt with each reply. It seems like you started the thread because you thought everyone would be on your side and things just aren't working out for you.

Go watch Lakeview Terrace. You are pretty much Samuel L Jackson's role personified.

You're right. I did start the thread thinking that most living, human beings with a heartbeat would help their neighbor in a time of need. I guess that doesn't apply to ATOT, which is fine since I don't live next to you pussies.

Plus I started the thread after 3 sam adams. Not a good idea, soon enough I shall revert back to my lurking ways and you epussies can go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

It's simply ridiculous that you go through this thread calling us all pussies when you don't have the stones to go talk to this guy face to face cause of your "introverted ass won't do it"

A) yeah, I'm introverted like 99% of everyone else here, so sue me. B) he's not home, probably at work tending to the poor burned woman anyways, so I'm an ass. C) I think I might talk to him the next time I see him. I really am curious why he chose not to act. D) yes, you all are pussies since you keep telling me to mind my own business when it's obvious that you are all wrong. It's NOT RIGHT that you ignore a burning house when you have the abilities this person has. Sorry, but there's nothing you can say to me to convince me otherwise that not helping is acceptable.

Ok then stop posting

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: AmigaMan
So a house catches on fire in our neighborhood tonight, pretty much destroying the entire house. Smoke is billowing from it and covering our small community. Just about all our neighbors including myself go to check on the occupants, in this case a young lady (no pics). Yet one of our resident doctors (doing his residency here at Duke) continues to mow his grass as if nothing is going on. Fire engines, ambulances, and police have converged on the house a mere block away from him.

Am I right in thinking this guy is an ass? I had a great letter I was going to tape to his door, but my wife won't let me. Should I do it?

The letter:

It's not his job to enter a burning house. Also, once first responders arrive, a doctor is essentially excused from his hipocratic duties (assuming they took them).

A lot depends on how deep they are into their residency: meaning how jaded they have become after responding to emergency situations. usually Good Samaritan laws protect them, but the insurance industry and litigating public have basically waged war on the medical profession over recent decades, essentially sapping their will to do any favors for anyone. Sucks, but there it is.

You're right, I don't think he should have entered a burning house and in this case there was no need to. And I appreciate the only rational response to this thread. It's just that common decency would have compelled most men into action. This guy, not so much.

 

[Legendary]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: RoloMather

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
I'm sorry your neighbor is more successful than you.*

* in response to what this thread is more and more obviously really about.

Not quite. Maybe in a couple years he will be, but right now I'm pretty sure I make more money than him. Not that it matters, but residents don't get paid nearly enough for the work they do. I think it's on the order of 30-40K which is way less than what I make. But again that doesn't really matter. It's his inaction that matters. As a human, a neighbor, I'm just shocked that he didn't care enough to help. But then again, maybe he has his reasons. I just can't think of one that would be compelling enough to ignore something like this.

Everyone here is saying that it's not your role to judge people. Your wife thinks so too. If you feel that strongly about it, go talk to the guy and express your concerns. Then he'll tell you to MYOB.

Like we all are telling you. MOYB.

Why is that an acceptable excuse? Why is ignoring a burning house acceptable? Why should we just MYOB when someone's house burns down? It's this mindset that sickens me. We've all seen the news story where a woman is raped on a train with bystanders "minding their own business" while it happens. Why is that ok in our society? What kind of demented mind thinks like that? Sure I went to help because that what normal people do. I just don't understand why other people choose to ignore it.

Nobody is obligated to do anything for anyone. Where do you get the idea otherwise? The social contract does not mandate help, only a lack of harm. There are hundreds of reasons your neighbor might have for not showing up at the fire. Maybe his house burned down when he was a little kid and fire is now a traumatic issue for him. Maybe he couldn't hear anything above his lawn mower. Maybe helping people 12 hours a day is simply enough for him. Maybe if he administers medical care away from his hospital, being only a resident, he would not be covered. Maybe he's a vet ( to the other thread). Maybe he's a surgeon and not necessarily well versed in fire related health issues.

You see where I'm going with this? I don't mind your indignation, that is your right, but the fact that you're whining here, being all high and mighty with your opinion of what humans owe each other, instead of manning up and talking to the guy, is pretty stupid.

However I have been known to drunk post so I won't hold it against you.

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Riceninja
Also OP, you sound increasingly butthurt with each reply. It seems like you started the thread because you thought everyone would be on your side and things just aren't working out for you.

Go watch Lakeview Terrace. You are pretty much Samuel L Jackson's role personified.

You're right. I did start the thread thinking that most living, human beings with a heartbeat would help their neighbor in a time of need. I guess that doesn't apply to ATOT, which is fine since I don't live next to you pussies.

Plus I started the thread after 3 sam adams. Not a good idea, soon enough I shall revert back to my lurking ways and you epussies can go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

It's simply ridiculous that you go through this thread calling us all pussies when you don't have the stones to go talk to this guy face to face cause of your "introverted ass won't do it"

A) yeah, I'm introverted like 99% of everyone else here, so sue me. B) he's not home, probably at work tending to the poor burned woman anyways, so I'm an ass. C) I think I might talk to him the next time I see him. I really am curious why he chose not to act. D) yes, you all are pussies since you keep telling me to mind my own business when it's obvious that you are all wrong. It's NOT RIGHT that you ignore a burning house when you have the abilities this person has. Sorry, but there's nothing you can say to me to convince me otherwise that not helping is acceptable.

Ok then stop posting

Only when you admit you're wrong

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: Riceninja
Also OP, you sound increasingly butthurt with each reply. It seems like you started the thread because you thought everyone would be on your side and things just aren't working out for you.

Go watch Lakeview Terrace. You are pretty much Samuel L Jackson's role personified.

You're right. I did start the thread thinking that most living, human beings with a heartbeat would help their neighbor in a time of need. I guess that doesn't apply to ATOT, which is fine since I don't live next to you pussies.

Plus I started the thread after 3 sam adams. Not a good idea, soon enough I shall revert back to my lurking ways and you epussies can go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

It's simply ridiculous that you go through this thread calling us all pussies when you don't have the stones to go talk to this guy face to face cause of your "introverted ass won't do it"

A) yeah, I'm introverted like 99% of everyone else here, so sue me. B) he's not home, probably at work tending to the poor burned woman anyways, so I'm an ass. C) I think I might talk to him the next time I see him. I really am curious why he chose not to act. D) yes, you all are pussies since you keep telling me to mind my own business when it's obvious that you are all wrong. It's NOT RIGHT that you ignore a burning house when you have the abilities this person has. Sorry, but there's nothing you can say to me to convince me otherwise that not helping is acceptable.

What if hospital regulations forbid him from helping outside the hospital for insurance reasons?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: zerocool84
How about just let him be and MYOB.

And if everyone in this world did that we'd be in a ton of shit. Your MYOB crap pisses me off. It's because of good Samaritans and people who go to help their neighbors in need that make America great. I bet your candy ass would have just let the lady burn in her house. You pussy!

quite the contrary. It's b/c of those helped by good samaritans that lawsuits have increased and insurance companies have grown fat on our libelous nature, wringing the necks of the entire medical profession in the process.

 

[Riceninja]

I'd further argue that the OP actually adds negative value to his community. I mean, I'd try my best to sell and GTFO too if I had him as a neighbour, even if it meant taking a loss.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: AmigaMan
So a house catches on fire in our neighborhood tonight, pretty much destroying the entire house. Smoke is billowing from it and covering our small community. Just about all our neighbors including myself go to check on the occupants, in this case a young lady (no pics). Yet one of our resident doctors (doing his residency here at Duke) continues to mow his grass as if nothing is going on. Fire engines, ambulances, and police have converged on the house a mere block away from him.

Am I right in thinking this guy is an ass? I had a great letter I was going to tape to his door, but my wife won't let me. Should I do it?

The letter:

It's not his job to enter a burning house. Also, once first responders arrive, a doctor is essentially excused from his hipocratic duties (assuming they took them).

A lot depends on how deep they are into their residency: meaning how jaded they have become after responding to emergency situations. usually Good Samaritan laws protect them, but the insurance industry and litigating public have basically waged war on the medical profession over recent decades, essentially sapping their will to do any favors for anyone. Sucks, but there it is.

You're right, I don't think he should have entered a burning house and in this case there was no need to. And I appreciate the only rational response to this thread. It's just that common decency would have compelled most men into action. This guy, not so much.

How is this any different from what everyone else has been telling you?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: txrandom
What is he suppose to do? Go crowd around near the house and get in the firefighters way?

As a professionally trained doctor, he would have been able to help out tremendously. He was outside at the time and should have smelled the smoke. He could have gotten there before anyone else and helped out as best he could. Thankfully she was ok with the exception of a couple of minor burns on her hand, arm and part of her neck.

Even if he wasn't a doctor, he could have gotten over there and seen what he could do. I would have. I was inside with my wife at the time and didn't know what was going on until we heard sirens. He has an OBLIGATION to help as a doctor.

negative.

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: RoloMather

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
I'm sorry your neighbor is more successful than you.*

* in response to what this thread is more and more obviously really about.

Not quite. Maybe in a couple years he will be, but right now I'm pretty sure I make more money than him. Not that it matters, but residents don't get paid nearly enough for the work they do. I think it's on the order of 30-40K which is way less than what I make. But again that doesn't really matter. It's his inaction that matters. As a human, a neighbor, I'm just shocked that he didn't care enough to help. But then again, maybe he has his reasons. I just can't think of one that would be compelling enough to ignore something like this.

Everyone here is saying that it's not your role to judge people. Your wife thinks so too. If you feel that strongly about it, go talk to the guy and express your concerns. Then he'll tell you to MYOB.

Like we all are telling you. MOYB.

Why is that an acceptable excuse? Why is ignoring a burning house acceptable? Why should we just MYOB when someone's house burns down? It's this mindset that sickens me. We've all seen the news story where a woman is raped on a train with bystanders "minding their own business" while it happens. Why is that ok in our society? What kind of demented mind thinks like that? Sure I went to help because that what normal people do. I just don't understand why other people choose to ignore it.

Nobody is obligated to do anything for anyone. Where do you get the idea otherwise? The social contract does not mandate help, only a lack of harm. There are hundreds of reasons your neighbor might have for not showing up at the fire. Maybe his house burned down when he was a little kid and fire is now a traumatic issue for him. Maybe he couldn't hear anything above his lawn mower. Maybe helping people 12 hours a day is simply enough for him. Maybe if he administers medical care away from his hospital, being only a resident, he would not be covered. Maybe he's a vet ( to the other thread). Maybe he's a surgeon and not necessarily well versed in fire related health issues.

You see where I'm going with this? I don't mind your indignation, that is your right, but the fact that you're whining here, being all high and mighty with your opinion of what humans owe each other, instead of manning up and talking to the guy, is pretty stupid.

However I have been known to drunk post so I won't hold it against you.

LOL! FINALLY someone understands me! As a side result my post count has increased tremendously! I might even hit lifer in the next 5 years, provided the vbullitin upgrade doesn't wipe out our post count like it did last time.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: Legendary

You see where I'm going with this? I don't mind your indignation, that is your right, but the fact that you're whining here, being all high and mighty with your opinion of what humans owe each other, instead of manning up and talking to the guy, is pretty stupid.

However I have been known to drunk post so I won't hold it against you.

/thread

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: MrPickins
Just let it go. He obviously had his reasons for not assisting. At best your letter will change nothing, at worst it will cause a ton of unnecessary drama.

yeah but the guy really is an ass. I've lived in this neighborhood for 10 years and he's been here for about 3 or 4. Never said hello even after I say it to him when I see him. Never bothers to come to the HOA meetings, never participates in community events like the picnic we had last year. The guy has made it his goal to not know anyone here. I know all of my neighbors and none of them have been here as long as he has. We regularly talk and chat when we see each other. He goes out of his way to ignore us. I'm not afraid to say I hate him, and because of what went down tonight, I hate him even more. He's trying to sell his house though, probably to move into nicer digs and get away from us middle-america type people he seems to despise. I guess we arent good enough for him, which is ok by me. The faster he gets his ass out of here, the better it will be for the rest of us.

Hey, I don't like Rednecks either.


Also, did you consider that his 80+ hour per week job prevents him from engaging in your depressingly boring suburban events?

Stop being such a self-important tool.

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: AmigaMan
So a house catches on fire in our neighborhood tonight, pretty much destroying the entire house. Smoke is billowing from it and covering our small community. Just about all our neighbors including myself go to check on the occupants, in this case a young lady (no pics). Yet one of our resident doctors (doing his residency here at Duke) continues to mow his grass as if nothing is going on. Fire engines, ambulances, and police have converged on the house a mere block away from him.

Am I right in thinking this guy is an ass? I had a great letter I was going to tape to his door, but my wife won't let me. Should I do it?

The letter:

It's not his job to enter a burning house. Also, once first responders arrive, a doctor is essentially excused from his hipocratic duties (assuming they took them).

A lot depends on how deep they are into their residency: meaning how jaded they have become after responding to emergency situations. usually Good Samaritan laws protect them, but the insurance industry and litigating public have basically waged war on the medical profession over recent decades, essentially sapping their will to do any favors for anyone. Sucks, but there it is.

You're right, I don't think he should have entered a burning house and in this case there was no need to. And I appreciate the only rational response to this thread. It's just that common decency would have compelled most men into action. This guy, not so much.

How is this any different from what everyone else has been telling you?

Because your answers in my semi-drunk mind are not rational. What I'm hearing from you all is that it's ok to just ignore a burning house. I'm hearing that you think it's ok that a professionally trained doctor should just hoard his skills and knowledge when he had an opportunity to use them. He had no idea that she would be ok, what if she really needed his help and the five minutes that it took first responders could have cost her life? Sure I'm stretching things a bit, but the "what if's" would have compelled me to do something if I were in his shoes. To say otherwise is irrational to me.

 

[AmigaMan]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: AmigaMan

Originally posted by: MrPickins
Just let it go. He obviously had his reasons for not assisting. At best your letter will change nothing, at worst it will cause a ton of unnecessary drama.

yeah but the guy really is an ass. I've lived in this neighborhood for 10 years and he's been here for about 3 or 4. Never said hello even after I say it to him when I see him. Never bothers to come to the HOA meetings, never participates in community events like the picnic we had last year. The guy has made it his goal to not know anyone here. I know all of my neighbors and none of them have been here as long as he has. We regularly talk and chat when we see each other. He goes out of his way to ignore us. I'm not afraid to say I hate him, and because of what went down tonight, I hate him even more. He's trying to sell his house though, probably to move into nicer digs and get away from us middle-america type people he seems to despise. I guess we arent good enough for him, which is ok by me. The faster he gets his ass out of here, the better it will be for the rest of us.

Hey, I don't like Rednecks either.


Also, did you consider that his 80+ hour per week job prevents him from engaging in your depressingly boring suburban events?

Stop being such a self-important tool.

Good points. But it was one picnic, I mean come on, it was free crappy food and a way to meet some of the young single female college students renting some of the houses here. Well we have one less now, but still there's a couple of them still walking their dogs around. WHOA, maybe he's gay!?!?!?! That could be the reason he didn't help...