A house catches on fire in your neighborhood and you're a doctor...what do you do?

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Chryso

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Just about all our neighbors including myself go to check on the occupants

What help is one more person going to be? That grass isn't going to cut itself.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
no, seriously. Duke sucks for women. I grew up in the area, attended one of the 3, and by far their crop was the worst. If there are any hotties in the OP's neighborhood, they certainly go to Chapel Hill.

Funny thing, that I deleted before posting....my brother went to Duke med. I've even been in the car when he "had" to stop at car accident, just outside of RDU. It only takes a few years before most physicians lose all desire to deal with these situations. as soon as the first responders arrive on the scene, the Doc is free of the "obligation" (that they never had) and can leave. Oftentimes, though, they need to remain b/c paramedics can fuck up the patient even more. ...NOT b/c they are bad, but b/c they're training is often: stabilize neck FIRST. ....this isn't always good, and can often lead to a quick death in certain situations. But EMT training doesn't often prepare one for the underlying causes of certain injuries. Sucks, but then it's yet another way that the litigating culture has forced most samaritans to not give a shit about others' unfortunate situations.

What does "it" refer to in that last sentence?
 

shocksyde

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What an excellent thread to read on a Monday morning.

I would've read it last night, but I was mowing my lawn.
 

OnePingOnly

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: Legendary
Grow some balls and tell him off in person.

LOL! My wife said she was fine if I did that...knowing that my introverted ass won't do it. It's not about the balls, I got plenty, just ask your mom. It's this whole "not liking people" thing that prevents me from talking to him.

Let this emotional tirade die and just go and talk to him in person.
 

Jejunum

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As a professionally trained doctor, he should be carrying malpractice insurance so he shouldn't worry about helping and in fact I believe he has a lawful obligation to help.

No, no

malpractice insurance only covers you in the hospital.
many times sorely lacking in knowledge as compared to the aforementioned RN.

Beanie - you are a nurse? your bias is clearly evident!
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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You said there was an ambulance on the scene. Trained medical professionals were there so I don't see why he should feel the need to get involved at that point. He'd probably just be in the way.

I think you're an ass if you tape anything like what you posted to his door.

Go get bent about something else.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
A house catches on fire in your neighborhood and you're a doctor...what do you do?

Call the fire department.

That guy in Texas called the Police when he saw his neighbors house being robbed, it didn't stop him from going out and killing them.
 

Mo0o

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Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Beanie46
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Well, since the thread title changed...
A house catches on fire in your neighborhood and you're a doctor...what do you do?

I dunno? Mow my lawn? WTF do you want the doctor to do? Diagnose the problem? "You have burns!" "No shit! Tell me something I don't already know!"

Have you ever stopped to wonder why they send ambulances to take people to the hospital, rather than taxicabs? WTF can a doctor do other than say, "wow, you've been burnt. I hereby diagnose you as having burns." Thank God you don't live near an airport where there's been a plane crash. "My neighbor is a pilot! The jerk just mowed his lawn after the plane crashed. I mean, he's an expert. He probably could have done something to help, like rebuild the engines or something to get the plane flying again."

Next time you have a tooth ache, are you going to run over to the dentists house and ask him to put in a filling for you? "Well, I don't have my office equipment, but I do have this Black and Decker drill."


Thank you for that post, DrPizza.

It seems that the OP has little grasp of what a resident physician is or any concept of reality in this case.

First, a resident physician, while called "Doctor", is anything but an MD as typically understood. Residents are not just let loose to work but instead are working, actually practicing and learning, under the direction and control of his/her attending physician.

And while it's true that a resident is more highly skilled than a lay person, many times a first or second year resident (the OP neglects to mention how far along the maligned resident physician is in his residency nor what speciality the residency is in), is not any more knowledgeable than a seasoned RN, and many times sorely lacking in knowledge as compared to the aforementioned RN.

Second, if said resident isn't specifically doing his training in emergency/trauma medicine, he'd be very much out of his sphere of expertise in all this. What if his residency is in urology or OB/GYN or radiology? Guess his response could be, "Let me take an X-ray and I'll call you back in the morning, just hang in there."....or "Put your feet into these stirrups and let's make sure you're OK 'down there'."

Additionally, if the resident isn't being trained in trauma, he'd be much better off letting the first responders get there and do the job they've been trained to do. I'd much rather have someone properly trained with the proper equipment do the job rather than a partially trained person with no support whatsoever. What's he supposed to do....something akin to doing heart surgery with an ink pen?

And about the Good Samaritan laws out there......there seems to be a misconception as to what they mean and how they apply. The law is NOT to protect medical professionals providing emergency care on the side of the road at accidents or in extricating victims from burning structures or anything else. The laws were created to prevent LAY PEOPLE from being sued in attempts to provide aid and care to victims, that is to keep non-trained people who attempt to help in an emercency, acting like a Good Samaritan, from being held to medical care standards of which they have no training in or knowledge of or skill in.

On the other hand, once a nurse or physician or anyone with training in the medical field enters this picture, that person is held to using proper medical standards in removing victims from accidents, burning houses, whatever.....such as how would a properly trained first responder act and react. Those are the standards a medically trained person would be held to when providing emergency care in the OP's burning house scenario. And a resident's malpractice insurance would most assuredly not cover him working outside his well defined areas, such as under the direct supervision of his attending physician in the hospital in which he's training.

Why the MD's anti-social? Could be he's just not into swilling beers, getting drunk, passing judgement on others while inebriated, or a whole host of other things.

And I didn't understand the whole "I make more than he does" comment by the OP. While it's true the OP may right now, the earning potential of the resident is vastly superior to the OP's earning potential it's silly to compare the current earning disparity. Given the maligned resident will never be unemployed, will over his lifetime earn multiples of what the OP can only dream of, and will possibly one day employ the OP in some capacity (maybe cleaning his offices or installing some new cable for a network). I almost see the OP as being somewhat feeling a bit jealous of what the resident has done with his life vs. the OP's and this is one way to backhand the resident to show him "who's boss".

ownage of the year 2009: complete
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
And if you're wondering what else we do, we serve on the HOA board and know pretty much all of our neighbors by name.

An HOA board member? No wonder you're such a nosy prick.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
A house catches on fire in your neighborhood and you're a doctor...what do you do?

Call the fire department.

That guy in Texas called the Police when he saw his neighbors house being robbed, it didn't stop him from going out and killing them.

Well, unless the good doctor had a firehose and the ability to pump water into his neighbor's house at high rates I don't really see the correlation here.
 

RKS

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We have a HOA and phone tree. If someones house catches on fire, we all respond with a bucket. A bucket brigade soon douses out any tragedy. Your neighbor should be removed from your 'hood OP.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: FDF12389
I wonder how much money I would save every year if i got drunk off three beers......

no shit.

Yeah, some redneck. The real rednecks I know finish a case before they're even buzzed. These are the guys that bring a mason jar of moonshine when they come see me.
 

Taejin

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
So a house catches on fire in our neighborhood tonight, pretty much destroying the entire house. Smoke is billowing from it and covering our small community. Just about all our neighbors including myself go to check on the occupants, in this case a young lady (no pics). Yet one of our resident doctors (doing his residency here at Duke) continues to mow his grass as if nothing is going on. Fire engines, ambulances, and police have converged on the house a mere block away from him.

Am I right in thinking this guy is an ass? I had a great letter I was going to tape to his door, but my wife won't let me. Should I do it?

The letter:
<Douche>, You are one piece of work. A lady?s house catches on fire and ambulances and fire trucks descend upon our neighborhood. Yet you just merrily cut your grass as if nothing is going on. Smoke billows from this poor woman?s house and you ignore it, continuing on your path of trying to get your house sold. You are a doctor! Where is your compassion? Your neighbors all went out to see what they could do. Your next door neighbor David, also a doctor, went to see what he could do. That?s what you all are trained for, is it not? You should be ashamed of yourself. In the past 3 or 4 years you?ve been here, I have not once seen you interact with anyone here. Not a ?hello? not even an acknowledgment that we exist to you. You probably have no idea what our names are. I sincerely hope you sell your house quickly. You are a detriment to our community and you add nothing of value to the people around you. However, I want to see you suffer just a bit. So whenever you have visitors come over to view your house, don?t be surprised if they get a visit from your redneck neighbor across the street. GIT ER DONE!!! YEEEHAAWWW MOTHER FUCKER! Regards, Your Redneck Neighbor

Edited: 03/29/2009 at 11:24 PM by AmigaMan




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