A Look@Iwill's P4HT (845PE)

Acer

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Hey guys, Iwill is coming out with this board very soon. Thought to give you a look at the board and some description.

P4HT - Enthusiast board for P4 533MHz Hyper Threading ready. Features include 10/100 LAN, 6 Channel Audio ready with SPDIF, USB 2.0, ATA 133, Serial ATA 150, Blue cold light Heatsink Fan, Red everything...AGP lock at 66MHz and PCI lock at 33MHz and Vcore up to 2.0V.

P4HT pic
 

fergus

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Very cool.
I've had a couple Iwill boards for AMD and they both rocked. This looks sweet for some hardcore Intel OC'ing!
 

wicktron

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Iwill never ceases to deliver when they choose to cater to enthusiasts.
This will probably be a very solid and overclockable board.
 

Acer

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Originally posted by: Acer
Hey guys, Iwill is coming out with this board very soon. Thought to give you a look at the board and some description.

P4HT - Enthusiast board for P4 533MHz Hyper Threading ready. Features include 10/100 LAN, 6 Channel Audio ready with SPDIF, USB 2.0, ATA 133, Serial ATA 150, Blue cold light Heatsink Fan, Red everything...AGP lock at 66MHz and PCI lock at 33MHz and Vcore up to 2.0V.

P4HT pic

Iwill is going to do the press relase this week from what my confidant tells me. The Vmem will be adequate, not great. I'll know by Friday what the figure will be. It is supposedly better than Abit but not quite as good as Epox in the Vmem adjustment.

 

Acer

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Probably good news for this m/b from a poster in another forum:

GeorgeTheGreek
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215 FSB!
According to some Iwill's people tests, this board managed to reach 215 FSB using the AGP/PCI lock!!

I want to test one as soon as possible (yesterday maybe?)
 

scharles

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Alas, another 845PE that lacks 1 item. With this one it is: IEEE 1394 (Firewire)

Why can't someone come out with a board with ALL the features that we are finding here and there on other 845PE Boards.

Steve Charles
 

wicktron

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Originally posted by: scharles
Alas, another 845PE that lacks 1 item. With this one it is: IEEE 1394 (Firewire) Why can't someone come out with a board with ALL the features that we are finding here and there on other 845PE Boards. Steve Charles

The Intel 845PE board has Firewire. However, it lacks any OC options.
 

scharles

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But the intel board has 1 thing lacking too: IDE RAID option

The Epox 4PEA+ looks like it may have everything, but I am worried that the specs on the website do not mention Serial ATA, which Evan's Review Board had.

Steve Charles
 

Acer

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From my previous post's with the quote from a poster from another forum, if it is any indication, could possibly show how well the board will overclock with a locked P4. I presume the 215 FSB was from an unlocked cpu. Now throw in a 2.26 with 17X multiplier and it should be exceptionally stable; probably into the 170's on air with Cooler Master IHC-H71 (stove pipe).
 

wicktron

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Originally posted by: scharles
But the intel board has 1 thing lacking too: IDE RAID option The Epox 4PEA+ looks like it may have everything, but I am worried that the specs on the website do not mention Serial ATA, which Evan's Review Board had. Steve Charles

Shoooooooooooooooooooot, it goes 1 step ahead... SATA RAID
 

Acer

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Specs for the P4HT:

Intel® 845PE chipset
533/400 MHz Front Side Bus
Hyper-Threading ready!
2 DIMMs support PC2700/2100/1600 unbuffer DDR SDRAM up to 2GB
Promise 20275 ATA/133 controller
5 x PCI 32bit/33MHz slots
Integrated Realtek ALC650 audio controller
2 x Internal Serial ATA Connectors (Silicon Image 3112), IWILL P4HT-S only
Chipset Cooler Light
Supports IWILL FI Panel
Adjustable Vcore for overclocking capability
RealTek 10/100 Ethernet controller

 

Acer

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In addition to the vcore being able to be set to 2.0V, the Vdimm can be set to 2.9V.
 

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Here is the last page from vr-zone's review of Iwill's P4HT-S:

Author : RiStaR

Conclusion

Board features & Pricing

The Iwill P4HT-S sports a bright red PCB and a unique choice of the DIMM slots to ensure stability under high system frequency. The choice to implement a matching LED fan on the NorthBridge really titles this board as an enthusiasts' board. The board is quite well featured with Realtek 10/100MB LAN onboard, Silicon Image Serial ATA Controller, Promise ATA133 Controller, Realtek 6.1 Channel Audio, connectors for SPDIF, Memory Stick and Smart Card and of course the most important option is the support for DDR-333 memory.

BIOS & Overclockability

Iwill P4HT-S has a pretty nice BIOS with some tweakable settings like VCore up to 2.00V, FSB of up to 250Mhz, DDR Bus Frequency selectable for DDR 266/333 operation. However, the BIOS can still be further improved to include VAgp adjustment and all the ratios for memory bus. As is evident with the Sisoft Benchmarks, the ability to choose a 3:4 ratio would benefit performance tremendously though admittedly, it'll be very hard to find DDR memory to be capable of DDR460. Even though the VDimm was not able to be raised higher than 2.9V, it must be mentioned that it managed to let my normal DDR-333 memory run at DDR-433 with 2.8V. This shows that the board is stable enough to handle high frequency operation by default. There are however some quirks with the new bios. ( To-date there isn't even a single BIOS posted on Iwill's website ) For example, if the user made too many changes to the BIOS over a period of time, whenever you try to reboot your PC or try and quit from BIOS, you'll find that the board will power itself down. Also the ability to use the VCore of 2.00V is questionable. With my Enermax 431W, I was unable to power on the board with the VCore set to 2.00V. All I would be greeted would be the sound of things starting to turn on and a "pop" everything would turn off again. And lastly, the use of only one DIMM slot if the end-user wants to overclock. I'm not sure if you can blame Iwill for this. It seems to me more like a chipset issue. Look in the various forums and you'll notice what I'm trying to say.

Performance & Stability

Iwill P4HT-S is performing extremely well at DDR 433 mode. I'm typing up this review on it as it is. As mentioned during the benches, it can be seen that the i845PE performs basically like it's elder brethren the i845G. Only difference being support for "Hyper-Threading" CPUs. The stability is as good as it gets. I don't remember any boards coming from Iwill that had stability problems. This is said even though we had instability problems with the DDR Module in DIMM 1. But this only happened after a FSB of 150MHz which is already overclocking a fair bit. Seeing that boards based on the i845PE costs almost the same as boards based on the i845G chipset, it makes more sense to go for the i845PE as it will have a longer shelf-life due to it's support for "Hyper-Threading" CPUs. Of course unless you require onboard video to save costs. But then there is the i845GE chipset and that's another review by itself.


Iwill P4HT-S was given an
Editor's Choice SILVER Award!

http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/IWill/P4HT-S/
 

Acer

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Here is my follow up on this board since I've had it for about 4 days.

1. I could get to 177 FSB if I used a Vcore mod. W/o the mod around 164-165 using TwinMos. Other memory might get you lower fsb.

2. Bios still needs work because it cannot hold hi Vcore (1.7-2.0). What I mean is on a warm restart/reboot at 165 FSB and above, the bios will not hold the hi preselected Vcore for what ever reason. I am sure Iwill can fix it.

3. If you can get high enough on the FSB, the memory bandwidth is excellent. I attained 3400 memory bandwidth at 177. At that speed, it was stable to do everyday chores but it wouldn't handle the hi stress apps. I ran Prime95 at 170 FSB and it lasted for about 3+ hours. I am figuring somewhere around 167 FSB as the ideal fail safe FSB.

4. To do the mod, it is slightly laborious. It can be done by soldering or using a SMD grabber. The SMD grabber is still a challenge becasue you have to use the right cpu HS. I was using the P4 Dragon 78 made by Thermal take. I took 3 fins off to accommodate the grabber head which otherwise would of interfered with the mating between HS and cpu core.

Here is my results and pics of the mod (oh yeah, I broke 3G's with my 2.26):

CPUID AT 3G'S

SANDRA MEMORY AT 177 FSB

VCORE MOD USING SMD GRABBER

VCORE MOD, ANOTHER ANGLE

 

CraigRT

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Thought about getting one of these... never used an IWill board for myself.. something to try...
 

Acer

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I am currently running the NON "S" version since I do not have any Serial drives. I'll eventually add a Serial ATA PCI card when the drives show up.

I just ran a PC Mark 2002 test@170 FSB and my scores were:

CPU-7373
Memory-7240
HDD-1705

 
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