A McDonald's burger from 1996

[zeruty]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: GeekDrew

Originally posted by: Steve
Yeah, um... not really. There are far better tasting burgers out there, with some semblance of nutritional value.

List, please?

yes lets see this list

find me a better tasteing burger for 1$ then a Dbl chese with xtra pickels

jr bacon cheeseburger from jack in the box
whopper jr from burger king

both of those taste much better than any crap from mcd's

i have to admit though, the garbage from mcd's is far superior than the burger shaped vomit from wendys!

 

[TheVrolok]

I don't go to McD's looking for a good meal. I go to McD's when I just want that shitty fast food taste. It's like a guilty pleasure.

 

[yhelothar]

Wow health nuts can make the most inane intepretations to slant the fast food industry(or anything unnatural sounding) with their high and mightiness.

Ok so it has special preservatives or additive chemicals that keeps microorganisms from decaying it.
So that's supposed to mean that our digestive system can't breakdown the food for nutrition either?
If that was true, you'd never feel satiated after a fast food meal. But as anyone knows, they really fill you up.


There's nothing wrong with fast food in itself. It's the people who makes it bad.
Yes it's easily accessible and cheap, and tasty, so there is a lot of people who end up making it a large part of their diet. But if you eat any fatty food(yes even a gourmet burger) with the same frequency as fast food, you're going to be just as unhealthy. However, the difference is your wallet would most likely prevent you from having fast food habits with gourmet burgers.

And hell, fast food isn't just double cheeseburgers and fries anymore. There's nothing unhealthy with eating fruit salads and grilled chicken sandwiches everyday.

But then again, it's always easier to just say it's bad. Critical thinking is lost with this one.

 

[HeXploiT]

I have heard that the molecular structure of a twinkie is very similar to that of plastic.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Perry404
I have heard that the molecular structure of a twinkie is very similar to that of plastic.

That's margarine.

 

[Itchrelief]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Interesting, but just because preservatives work doesn't mean they're bad for you. Everything is a "chemical food". The food I'm eating now is packed with egregious, insidious chemicals like dihydrogen monoxide, sodium chloride, and eicosapentaenoic acid. Pray for me. That web page is full of ridiculous hippy dogma.

Salt.

The preservative that is centuries old.

The meat makes somewhat sense if you look at it from a salt curing stance. It is the reason salt has been used for centuries to preserve stuff for long term use. Salt works by making a hyperosmotic environment that would cause the any microorganisms to shrivel.

What defies logic is the bread. WTF keeps molds and bacteria from breaking it down? I have no idea.

They more important question is why they add preservatives in such high concentrations?

My guess would be the fact that it probably has the same preservatives as any other national brand bread you can buy in the grocery store (and goes for weeks or months without mold growth if kept correctly) combined with the fact that she kept it in a sealed container.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Perry404
I have heard that the molecular structure of a twinkie is very similar to that of plastic.

That's margarine.

Poppycock, margarine is mostly vegetable oil.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: SirStev0


Sigh. Your an idiot.

Huh?

You can't use the correct contraction of "you are" and he's the idiot?

 

[91TTZ]

That site is run by a hippy quack. Also, this statement is entirely incorrect:

"Ladies, Gentleman, and children alike - this is a chemical food. There is absolutely no nutrition here."

It sounds like something a loon would say. They know nothing about the subject but are motivated to "teach" others about their views.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

omg chemicals noooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Jeff7]

All this talk of burgers + having no clean dishes + no cooked food = trip to McDonalds.

And the gods smiled on me. Order was 3 cheeseburgers and 1 med strawberry shake.
She only rang up 2, and I didn't notice until after I got the bag. I got out my card to pay for the third one, but she just put it in the bag and said "Don't worry about it."
Yay, free burger.

And what's this on the package? Nutrition facts?

Hmm, according to this, the burger has fat, carbohydrates, and protein. 20% DV for Calcium, too, and 15% DV of Iron.

Damn chemicals.
Damn crazy hippies, giving regular hippies a bad name.

 

[DomS]

Originally posted by: evident
Doesn't surprise me. Fast food is nasty stuff, yeah it tastes decent but i dont know why people eat it all the time. everytime i eat at fast food i feel like crap afterwards.

just wait for all the fast food defenders to come in here and defend their poor eating choices!

I don't even think it tastes good to be honest with ya....

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: mugs
And honey is still edible after thousands of years.

Sigh. Your an idiot.


The hyperosmolatity of honey (due to the fact that it is almost completely concentrated sugar) makes it impossible for any living microorganism to live in it. If they try water is immediately leached from their cell body and they shrivel and die.

There are bacteria that have developed ways of living in other hyperosmotic environments; however, there has yet to be one that can in honey. Maybe one day there will and than honey won't be permanently sterile.

A burger should have no property that should make it impervious to decay. It defies biology.

No, I'm really not. My comment was about as relevant as showing someone a 12 year old hamburger and telling them they shouldn't eat it because it was well-preserved. And they used that scary word, chemical too. :Q If you want to say something is harmful, tell me what is in it and what harm it does. A picture of an old hamburger is just a scare tactic.

Sorry, then I don't see the point of your original comment. It seemed to me that you were trying to say that since honey is still edible after 2000 years, why would a 12 year old burger be bad. Honey is still edible due to an intrinsic property of honey: the fact that it is so concentrated it will not physically allow things to grow in it. Meat doesn't naturally have this intrinsic property. It makes your claim meaningless.

Being preserved for a long time is not an indication that something is unhealthy even if it's preserved in a manner that is different from how honey is preserved. The fact that something lasts a long time means nothing other than that it lasts a long time. It is being used as a scare tactic instead of using actual scientific facts to show the harm that is done by the preservatives in a McDonalds hamburger.

Being a multi-billion dollar company also does nothing to prove that the food is unhealthy. But I didn't call you an idiot for bringing it up.

 

[Itchrelief]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: mugs
And honey is still edible after thousands of years.

Sigh. Your an idiot.


The hyperosmolatity of honey (due to the fact that it is almost completely concentrated sugar) makes it impossible for any living microorganism to live in it. If they try water is immediately leached from their cell body and they shrivel and die.

There are bacteria that have developed ways of living in other hyperosmotic environments; however, there has yet to be one that can in honey. Maybe one day there will and than honey won't be permanently sterile.

A burger should have no property that should make it impervious to decay. It defies biology.

No, I'm really not. My comment was about as relevant as showing someone a 12 year old hamburger and telling them they shouldn't eat it because it was well-preserved. And they used that scary word, chemical too. :Q If you want to say something is harmful, tell me what is in it and what harm it does. A picture of an old hamburger is just a scare tactic.

Sorry, then I don't see the point of your original comment. It seemed to me that you were trying to say that since honey is still edible after 2000 years, why would a 12 year old burger be bad. Honey is still edible due to an intrinsic property of honey: the fact that it is so concentrated it will not physically allow things to grow in it. Meat doesn't naturally have this intrinsic property. It makes your claim meaningless.

Being preserved for a long time is not an indication that something is unhealthy even if it's preserved in a manner that is different from how honey is preserved. The fact that something lasts a long time means nothing other than that it lasts a long time. It is being used as a scare tactic instead of using actual scientific facts to show the harm that is done by the preservatives in a McDonalds hamburger.

+1

You apply your "scientific" reasoning to honey, but fail to apply it to the burger. What is the reason the burger meat did not spoil? Will the same conditions cause problems for a human? You need to answer that before jumping to the conclusion that the burger is automatically toxic and evil. Do you know for a fact that the burger has some preservative that will cause a human problems, or just assuming it from the preservation?

Look at the honey: the reason the honey does not support microbial growth is not a big problem for a human that consumes it, as the human is not trying to live in a honey bath. You need to delve in depth into the meat issue before you brand it as bad, because some conditions or peculiarities of the burger could have caused this single incident, and these conditions or peculiarities do not necessarily have to adversely affect humans that eat it.

 

[alkemyst]

seriously with as many burgers sold, if they were causing issues someone would have sued already and won.

 

[0roo0roo]

wonder how long does a shipment of food last at mcdonalds...a week? how many preservatives do you need in frozen beef anyways

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Interesting, but just because preservatives work doesn't mean they're bad for you. Everything is a "chemical food". The food I'm eating now is packed with egregious, insidious chemicals like dihydrogen monoxide, sodium chloride, and eicosapentaenoic acid. Pray for me. That web page is full of ridiculous hippy dogma.

Salt.

The preservative that is centuries old.

The meat makes somewhat sense if you look at it from a salt curing stance. It is the reason salt has been used for centuries to preserve stuff for long term use. Salt works by making a hyperosmotic environment that would cause the any microorganisms to shrivel.

What defies logic is the bread. WTF keeps molds and bacteria from breaking it down? I have no idea.

They more important question is why they add preservatives in such high concentrations?

The bread is the scary part. The meat I can see, but the bread...

I get my bread from the bakery across the street. If you touch it with your hands to take out a slice, seal the bag back up and put it back on the counter, it's moldy within 3 days for sure. Regular grocery store bread is not like this and lasts a few weeks on the counter before going moldy, but not 12 years.

 

[nerp]

I'd love to see photos of all the McD's supporters in here. Suddenly, I understand why there's always some dude in the office that has to spend 30 minutes in the bathroom stinking up the place every day.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: nerp
I'd love to see photos of all the McD's supporters in here. Suddenly, I understand why there's always some dude in the office that has to spend 30 minutes in the bathroom stinking up the place every day.

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[Itchrelief]

Originally posted by: nerp
I'd love to see photos of all the McD's supporters in here. Suddenly, I understand why there's always some dude in the office that has to spend 30 minutes in the bathroom stinking up the place every day.

Yeah, and if someone doesn't agree that smoking cigarettes will cause you to grow an extra pair of arms, that makes them a RJR apologist?

not to mention a carton-a-day smoker

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: nerp
I'd love to see photos of all the McD's supporters in here. Suddenly, I understand why there's always some dude in the office that has to spend 30 minutes in the bathroom stinking up the place every day.

So anyone in this thread who is anti-stupid is a McDonald's supporter?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: nerp
I'd love to see photos of all the McD's supporters in here. Suddenly, I understand why there's always some dude in the office that has to spend 30 minutes in the bathroom stinking up the place every day.

Asked and answered. Not fat and I don't take 30 minute trips to the crapper.

ZV

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: mugs
And honey is still edible after thousands of years.

Sigh. Your an idiot.

in before edit.

OMG a typo.

That wasn't a typo. It was a not-using-your-brain moment just before calling someone else an idiot. A typo is something like thsi. Carry on.

Ownage!!!!

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Go ahead continue to defend a multi-million dollar corporation that doesn't give a damn about you or your health.

I guess my point is I don't see the point in their methods. They must do some funky science and add a great deal of chemicals to keep it from rotting.

Want some proof? Go bake some bread, cook some ground beef, and put it on your counter for a week or two.

Its not their responsibility to give a damn about my health, its MY responsibility.

If i want to eat a mcDLT (old school), or a whopper or baconator, or whatever, its my choice. As long as its in moderation, its ok.

I'm glad they are profitable. Kudos to them.

 

[Insomniator]

Originally posted by: slag

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Go ahead continue to defend a multi-million dollar corporation that doesn't give a damn about you or your health.

I guess my point is I don't see the point in their methods. They must do some funky science and add a great deal of chemicals to keep it from rotting.

Want some proof? Go bake some bread, cook some ground beef, and put it on your counter for a week or two.

Its not their responsibility to give a damn about my health, its MY responsibility.

If i want to eat a mcDLT (old school), or a whopper or baconator, or whatever, its my choice. As long as its in moderation, its ok.

I'm glad they are profitable. Kudos to them.

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