this was strictly going on the assumption that you were planning on breeding and having children.
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Mushy, like baby poo.
Just because you're not a breeder doesn't mean you have to be cold-hearted.
Tears are in my eyes.
I have three children, and I am thankful for their continued health and well-being.
/tears in my eyes.
Who says I can't breed?!?! Seriously, if that brought you to tears, turn in your mancard.
Last time I checked your sperm deposited in some man's arse or tummy isn't going to make a baby and considering that those are the only places your sperm is likely to land in another human considering your sexual orientation I would say that you are pretty much "not a breeder".
Last I checked, how do your unspent wads, that end up on a dirty napkin, make you any different?
Who are you to determine if I'll be a breeder or not?
Hey, we're simple folk. You say you're gay, now you're implying that maybe you'll have children? We're just looking for resolution. Let us know your intentions. We'll sleep easier at night. KThXBye.
Look dude - I didn't bring the subject up. Who says the two have to be mutually exclusive?
So basically, you are saying you want your cake and eat it too?
If you are gay and get married to a woman just to have children I feel sorry for any offspring. That will probably be a really screwed up family atmosphere.
Who said anything about marrying a woman?!?! :laugh:
Commonlaw marriage exists.
Or if you plan on living with her as a roommate, great family atmosphere there! :roll:
I don't plan on living with any woman - what makes you think that?
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Mushy, like baby poo.
Just because you're not a breeder doesn't mean you have to be cold-hearted.
Tears are in my eyes.
I have three children, and I am thankful for their continued health and well-being.
/tears in my eyes.
Who says I can't breed?!?! Seriously, if that brought you to tears, turn in your mancard.
Last time I checked your sperm deposited in some man's arse or tummy isn't going to make a baby and considering that those are the only places your sperm is likely to land in another human considering your sexual orientation I would say that you are pretty much "not a breeder".
Last I checked, how do your unspent wads, that end up on a dirty napkin, make you any different?
Who are you to determine if I'll be a breeder or not?
Hey, we're simple folk. You say you're gay, now you're implying that maybe you'll have children? We're just looking for resolution. Let us know your intentions. We'll sleep easier at night. KThXBye.
Look dude - I didn't bring the subject up. Who says the two have to be mutually exclusive?
So basically, you are saying you want your cake and eat it too?
If you are gay and get married to a woman just to have children I feel sorry for any offspring. That will probably be a really screwed up family atmosphere.
Who said anything about marrying a woman?!?! :laugh:
Commonlaw marriage exists.
Or if you plan on living with her as a roommate, great family atmosphere there! :roll:
I don't plan on living with any woman - what makes you think that?
this was strictly going on the assumption that you were planning on breeding and having children.
Originally posted by: notfred
I really don't get this "I'm gonna have kids someday", attitude that gay people seem to have. My roommate is gay and he's the same way. When you ask him how he's going to pull that off, he talks about artifically inseminating a lesbian friend of his. What the hell kind of family does that provide for the kid? I'm not talking about the kid having two daddies or two mommies - I'm talking about the kid having two sets of parents in general. Broken homes are BAD things. I've never ONCE met someone who grew up being passed back and forth between different homes every week who actually liked it. To intentionally have kids in that situation is downright selfish.
Originally posted by: notfred
I really don't get this "I'm gonna have kids someday", attitude that gay people seem to have. My roommate is gay and he's the same way. When you ask him how he's going to pull that off, he talks about artifically inseminating a lesbian friend of his. What the hell kind of family does that provide for the kid? I'm not talking about the kid having two daddies or two mommies - I'm talking about the kid having two sets of parents in general. Broken homes are BAD things. I've never ONCE met someone who grew up being passed back and forth between different homes every week who actually liked it. To intentionally have kids in that situation is downright selfish.
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Mushy, like baby poo.
Just because you're not a breeder doesn't mean you have to be cold-hearted.
Tears are in my eyes.
I have three children, and I am thankful for their continued health and well-being.
/tears in my eyes.
Who says I can't breed?!?! Seriously, if that brought you to tears, turn in your mancard.
Last time I checked your sperm deposited in some man's arse or tummy isn't going to make a baby and considering that those are the only places your sperm is likely to land in another human considering your sexual orientation I would say that you are pretty much "not a breeder".
Last I checked, how do your unspent wads, that end up on a dirty napkin, make you any different?
Who are you to determine if I'll be a breeder or not?
Hey, we're simple folk. You say you're gay, now you're implying that maybe you'll have children? We're just looking for resolution. Let us know your intentions. We'll sleep easier at night. KThXBye.
Look dude - I didn't bring the subject up. Who says the two have to be mutually exclusive?
So basically, you are saying you want your cake and eat it too?
If you are gay and get married to a woman just to have children I feel sorry for any offspring. That will probably be a really screwed up family atmosphere.
Who said anything about marrying a woman?!?! :laugh:
Commonlaw marriage exists.
Or if you plan on living with her as a roommate, great family atmosphere there! :roll:
I don't plan on living with any woman - what makes you think that?
this was strictly going on the assumption that you were planning on breeding and having children.
And a woman is requried to be involved after the birth process because?....
Note - I don't plan on having children - just presenting the argument to show that exclusion from the breeder population is not dependent on one's orientation.
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: notfred
I really don't get this "I'm gonna have kids someday", attitude that gay people seem to have. My roommate is gay and he's the same way. When you ask him how he's going to pull that off, he talks about artifically inseminating a lesbian friend of his. What the hell kind of family does that provide for the kid? I'm not talking about the kid having two daddies or two mommies - I'm talking about the kid having two sets of parents in general. Broken homes are BAD things. I've never ONCE met someone who grew up being passed back and forth between different homes every week who actually liked it. To intentionally have kids in that situation is downright selfish.
I never said I would. Also, in most cases of surrogacy, the child would usually be adopted by the parents and/or parental rights would be voluntarily surrendered by the mother. While I don't think I could ever do that, I'm not against adoption :thumbsup:
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Mushy, like baby poo.
Just because you're not a breeder doesn't mean you have to be cold-hearted.
Tears are in my eyes.
I have three children, and I am thankful for their continued health and well-being.
/tears in my eyes.
Who says I can't breed?!?! Seriously, if that brought you to tears, turn in your mancard.
Last time I checked your sperm deposited in some man's arse or tummy isn't going to make a baby and considering that those are the only places your sperm is likely to land in another human considering your sexual orientation I would say that you are pretty much "not a breeder".
Last I checked, how do your unspent wads, that end up on a dirty napkin, make you any different?
Who are you to determine if I'll be a breeder or not?
Hey, we're simple folk. You say you're gay, now you're implying that maybe you'll have children? We're just looking for resolution. Let us know your intentions. We'll sleep easier at night. KThXBye.
Look dude - I didn't bring the subject up. Who says the two have to be mutually exclusive?
So basically, you are saying you want your cake and eat it too?
If you are gay and get married to a woman just to have children I feel sorry for any offspring. That will probably be a really screwed up family atmosphere.
Who said anything about marrying a woman?!?! :laugh:
Commonlaw marriage exists.
Or if you plan on living with her as a roommate, great family atmosphere there! :roll:
I don't plan on living with any woman - what makes you think that?
this was strictly going on the assumption that you were planning on breeding and having children.
And a woman is requried to be involved after the birth process because?....
Note - I don't plan on having children - just presenting the argument to show that exclusion from the breeder population is not dependent on one's orientation.
And I COMPLETELY disagree with that statement. I grew up in a great family atmosphere and feel bad for those who didn't. Those who intentionally set things up so that the kids they might have are forced to not grow up in a loving family where both parents are together piss me off.
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Mushy, like baby poo.
Just because you're not a breeder doesn't mean you have to be cold-hearted.
Tears are in my eyes.
I have three children, and I am thankful for their continued health and well-being.
/tears in my eyes.
Who says I can't breed?!?! Seriously, if that brought you to tears, turn in your mancard.
Last time I checked your sperm deposited in some man's arse or tummy isn't going to make a baby and considering that those are the only places your sperm is likely to land in another human considering your sexual orientation I would say that you are pretty much "not a breeder".
Last I checked, how do your unspent wads, that end up on a dirty napkin, make you any different?
Who are you to determine if I'll be a breeder or not?
Hey, we're simple folk. You say you're gay, now you're implying that maybe you'll have children? We're just looking for resolution. Let us know your intentions. We'll sleep easier at night. KThXBye.
Look dude - I didn't bring the subject up. Who says the two have to be mutually exclusive?
So basically, you are saying you want your cake and eat it too?
If you are gay and get married to a woman just to have children I feel sorry for any offspring. That will probably be a really screwed up family atmosphere.
Who said anything about marrying a woman?!?! :laugh:
Commonlaw marriage exists.
Or if you plan on living with her as a roommate, great family atmosphere there! :roll:
I don't plan on living with any woman - what makes you think that?
this was strictly going on the assumption that you were planning on breeding and having children.
And a woman is requried to be involved after the birth process because?....
Note - I don't plan on having children - just presenting the argument to show that exclusion from the breeder population is not dependent on one's orientation.
And I COMPLETELY disagree with that statement. I grew up in a great family atmosphere and feel bad for those who didn't. Those who intentionally set things up so that the kids they might have are forced to not grow up in a loving family where both parents are together piss me off.
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Mushy, like baby poo.
Just because you're not a breeder doesn't mean you have to be cold-hearted.
Tears are in my eyes.
I have three children, and I am thankful for their continued health and well-being.
/tears in my eyes.
Who says I can't breed?!?! Seriously, if that brought you to tears, turn in your mancard.
caution: internet badass:roll:
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: notfred
I really don't get this "I'm gonna have kids someday", attitude that gay people seem to have. My roommate is gay and he's the same way. When you ask him how he's going to pull that off, he talks about artifically inseminating a lesbian friend of his. What the hell kind of family does that provide for the kid? I'm not talking about the kid having two daddies or two mommies - I'm talking about the kid having two sets of parents in general. Broken homes are BAD things. I've never ONCE met someone who grew up being passed back and forth between different homes every week who actually liked it. To intentionally have kids in that situation is downright selfish.
I never said I would. Also, in most cases of surrogacy, the child would usually be adopted by the parents and/or parental rights would be voluntarily surrendered by the mother. While I don't think I could ever do that, I'm not against adoption :thumbsup:
Adoption is not breeding. Making an argument that you can breed requires you to impregnate a woman, one way or another. Making an argument that you could raise a child is something completely different.
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: gabemcg
sentiment to resentment/homosexual accusations/bashing in less than 15 posts
congradtulations...
Flashback to gabemcg as he wrote this post: "Hmmm.... is that 'congratulations' with a 'd' or a 't'? Ah hell, I'll just throw in both!"
Okay, so that wasn't funny. The point is, you gave us a hackneyed post, so I'm going to piss all over it.
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Mushy, like baby poo.
Just because you're not a breeder doesn't mean you have to be cold-hearted.
Tears are in my eyes.
I have three children, and I am thankful for their continued health and well-being.
/tears in my eyes.
Who says I can't breed?!?! Seriously, if that brought you to tears, turn in your mancard.
Last time I checked your sperm deposited in some man's arse or tummy isn't going to make a baby and considering that those are the only places your sperm is likely to land in another human considering your sexual orientation I would say that you are pretty much "not a breeder".
Last I checked, how do your unspent wads, that end up on a dirty napkin, make you any different?
Who are you to determine if I'll be a breeder or not?
Hey, we're simple folk. You say you're gay, now you're implying that maybe you'll have children? We're just looking for resolution. Let us know your intentions. We'll sleep easier at night. KThXBye.
Look dude - I didn't bring the subject up. Who says the two have to be mutually exclusive?
So basically, you are saying you want your cake and eat it too?
If you are gay and get married to a woman just to have children I feel sorry for any offspring. That will probably be a really screwed up family atmosphere.
Who said anything about marrying a woman?!?! :laugh:
Commonlaw marriage exists.
Or if you plan on living with her as a roommate, great family atmosphere there! :roll:
I don't plan on living with any woman - what makes you think that?
this was strictly going on the assumption that you were planning on breeding and having children.
And a woman is requried to be involved after the birth process because?....
Note - I don't plan on having children - just presenting the argument to show that exclusion from the breeder population is not dependent on one's orientation.
And I COMPLETELY disagree with that statement. I grew up in a great family atmosphere and feel bad for those who didn't. Those who intentionally set things up so that the kids they might have are forced to not grow up in a loving family where both parents are together piss me off.
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
Because a child needs both a mother AND a father to grow up well balanced. Sure there are a lot of family with don't.....which has caused our society to get really fvcked up.
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
Originally posted by: notfred
I really don't get this "I'm gonna have kids someday", attitude that gay people seem to have. My roommate is gay and he's the same way. When you ask him how he's going to pull that off, he talks about artifically inseminating a lesbian friend of his. What the hell kind of family does that provide for the kid? I'm not talking about the kid having two daddies or two mommies - I'm talking about the kid having two sets of parents in general. Broken homes are BAD things. I've never ONCE met someone who grew up being passed back and forth between different homes every week who actually liked it. To intentionally have kids in that situation is downright selfish.
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Mushy, like baby poo.
Just because you're not a breeder doesn't mean you have to be cold-hearted.
Tears are in my eyes.
I have three children, and I am thankful for their continued health and well-being.
/tears in my eyes.
Who says I can't breed?!?! Seriously, if that brought you to tears, turn in your mancard.
Last time I checked your sperm deposited in some man's arse or tummy isn't going to make a baby and considering that those are the only places your sperm is likely to land in another human considering your sexual orientation I would say that you are pretty much "not a breeder".
Last I checked, how do your unspent wads, that end up on a dirty napkin, make you any different?
Who are you to determine if I'll be a breeder or not?
Hey, we're simple folk. You say you're gay, now you're implying that maybe you'll have children? We're just looking for resolution. Let us know your intentions. We'll sleep easier at night. KThXBye.
Look dude - I didn't bring the subject up. Who says the two have to be mutually exclusive?
So basically, you are saying you want your cake and eat it too?
If you are gay and get married to a woman just to have children I feel sorry for any offspring. That will probably be a really screwed up family atmosphere.
Who said anything about marrying a woman?!?! :laugh:
Commonlaw marriage exists.
Or if you plan on living with her as a roommate, great family atmosphere there! :roll:
I don't plan on living with any woman - what makes you think that?
this was strictly going on the assumption that you were planning on breeding and having children.
And a woman is requried to be involved after the birth process because?....
Note - I don't plan on having children - just presenting the argument to show that exclusion from the breeder population is not dependent on one's orientation.
And I COMPLETELY disagree with that statement. I grew up in a great family atmosphere and feel bad for those who didn't. Those who intentionally set things up so that the kids they might have are forced to not grow up in a loving family where both parents are together piss me off.
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
Because a child needs both a mother AND a father to grow up well balanced. Sure there are a lot of family with don't.....which has caused our society to get really fvcked up.
And this is where we fundamentally disagree. I've seen plenty of families with both sets of parents, and the children have come out pretty fscked up. In reality, there are many factors that contribute to ones ability to raise a child, and I don't think that having parents of opposite sex is necessarily a requirement.
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
I'll give my answer to that one: A gay couple is not unable to provide a loving environment - a gay couple is inaqequately prepared for a lot of situations that arise in the raising of children, though: What does a gay male couple do when thier 13 year old daughter gets her first period? They don't know, they've never had to deal withh that. What advice does a gay male couple give thier teenage son when he wants to start dating girls? They can't, they've never tried it. Is a gay male couple even capable of teaching proper hygeine habits to a little girl? Maybe, but how would they know? What about a lesbian couple potty-training thier son? They don't even understand the basics of the difficulty involved in aiming.
Can most of these obstacles be overcome? Yeah, with some effort, but some of them might not be - like the girl getting her first period. Even if her fathers knew how to deal with this, would she come to them about it? I've never heard of a girl going to her father in that situation.
Certainly, a couple of gay parents would be preferrable to a foster home or an orphanage, but I still don't think it's an ideal situation for raising children.
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
I'll give my answer to that one: A gay couple is not unable to provide a loving environment - a gay couple is inaqequately prepared for a lot of situations that arise in the raising of children, though: What does a gay male couple do when thier 13 year old daughter gets her first period? They don't know, they've never had to deal withh that. What advice does a gay male couple give thier teenage son when he wants to start dating girls? They can't, they've never tried it. Is a gay male couple even capable of teaching proper hygeine habits to a little girl? Maybe, but how would they know? What about a lesbian couple potty-training thier son? They don't even understand the basics of the difficulty involved in aiming.
Can most of these obstacles be overcome? Yeah, with some effort, but some of them might not be - like the girl getting her first period. Even if her fathers knew how to deal with this, would she come to them about it? I've never heard of a girl going to her father in that situation.
Certainly, a couple of gay parents would be preferrable to a foster home or an orphanage, but I still don't think it's an ideal situation for raising children.
I'm sorry, but if those weak examples are the best summation you can come to, I'd say gay couples don't have much to overcome. Yes, these situations can be difficult and/or akward, ANY well informed parent shouldn't have a problem with them, reguardless of orientation.
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
I'll give my answer to that one: A gay couple is not unable to provide a loving environment - a gay couple is inaqequately prepared for a lot of situations that arise in the raising of children, though: What does a gay male couple do when thier 13 year old daughter gets her first period? They don't know, they've never had to deal withh that. What advice does a gay male couple give thier teenage son when he wants to start dating girls? They can't, they've never tried it. Is a gay male couple even capable of teaching proper hygeine habits to a little girl? Maybe, but how would they know? What about a lesbian couple potty-training thier son? They don't even understand the basics of the difficulty involved in aiming.
Can most of these obstacles be overcome? Yeah, with some effort, but some of them might not be - like the girl getting her first period. Even if her fathers knew how to deal with this, would she come to them about it? I've never heard of a girl going to her father in that situation.
Certainly, a couple of gay parents would be preferrable to a foster home or an orphanage, but I still don't think it's an ideal situation for raising children.
I'm sorry, but if those weak examples are the best summation you can come to, I'd say gay couples don't have much to overcome. Yes, these situations can be difficult and/or akward, ANY well informed parent shouldn't have a problem with them, reguardless of orientation.
umm.....here is where i say...who the heck are you to give such a statement? Have you ever been through it? You can't possibly know unless you've ever been through it.
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Mushy, like baby poo.
Just because you're not a breeder doesn't mean you have to be cold-hearted.
Tears are in my eyes.
I have three children, and I am thankful for their continued health and well-being.
/tears in my eyes.
Who says I can't breed?!?! Seriously, if that brought you to tears, turn in your mancard.
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
I'll give my answer to that one: A gay couple is not unable to provide a loving environment - a gay couple is inaqequately prepared for a lot of situations that arise in the raising of children, though: What does a gay male couple do when thier 13 year old daughter gets her first period? They don't know, they've never had to deal withh that. What advice does a gay male couple give thier teenage son when he wants to start dating girls? They can't, they've never tried it. Is a gay male couple even capable of teaching proper hygeine habits to a little girl? Maybe, but how would they know? What about a lesbian couple potty-training thier son? They don't even understand the basics of the difficulty involved in aiming.
Can most of these obstacles be overcome? Yeah, with some effort, but some of them might not be - like the girl getting her first period. Even if her fathers knew how to deal with this, would she come to them about it? I've never heard of a girl going to her father in that situation.
Certainly, a couple of gay parents would be preferrable to a foster home or an orphanage, but I still don't think it's an ideal situation for raising children.
I'm sorry, but if those weak examples are the best summation you can come to, I'd say gay couples don't have much to overcome. Yes, these situations can be difficult and/or akward, ANY well informed parent shouldn't have a problem with them, reguardless of orientation.
umm.....here is where i say...who the heck are you to give such a statement? Have you ever been through it? You can't possibly know unless you've ever been through it.
With the same notion, who are you to give such absurd statements on gay families as you have above?
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
I'll give my answer to that one: A gay couple is not unable to provide a loving environment - a gay couple is inaqequately prepared for a lot of situations that arise in the raising of children, though: What does a gay male couple do when thier 13 year old daughter gets her first period? They don't know, they've never had to deal withh that. What advice does a gay male couple give thier teenage son when he wants to start dating girls? They can't, they've never tried it. Is a gay male couple even capable of teaching proper hygeine habits to a little girl? Maybe, but how would they know? What about a lesbian couple potty-training thier son? They don't even understand the basics of the difficulty involved in aiming.
Can most of these obstacles be overcome? Yeah, with some effort, but some of them might not be - like the girl getting her first period. Even if her fathers knew how to deal with this, would she come to them about it? I've never heard of a girl going to her father in that situation.
Certainly, a couple of gay parents would be preferrable to a foster home or an orphanage, but I still don't think it's an ideal situation for raising children.
I'm sorry, but if those weak examples are the best summation you can come to, I'd say gay couples don't have much to overcome. Yes, these situations can be difficult and/or akward, ANY well informed parent shouldn't have a problem with them, reguardless of orientation.
umm.....here is where i say...who the heck are you to give such a statement? Have you ever been through it? You can't possibly know unless you've ever been through it.
With the same notion, who are you to give such absurd statements on gay families as you have above?
Talk to any family psychologist. I'm sure it would be a no brainer for them to give you a entire lecture on it.
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Jero
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Which brings us to the question" Why do you think that a gay couple would be incapable of providing the enviroment capable of producing a loving family?
I'll give my answer to that one: A gay couple is not unable to provide a loving environment - a gay couple is inaqequately prepared for a lot of situations that arise in the raising of children, though: What does a gay male couple do when thier 13 year old daughter gets her first period? They don't know, they've never had to deal withh that. What advice does a gay male couple give thier teenage son when he wants to start dating girls? They can't, they've never tried it. Is a gay male couple even capable of teaching proper hygeine habits to a little girl? Maybe, but how would they know? What about a lesbian couple potty-training thier son? They don't even understand the basics of the difficulty involved in aiming.
Can most of these obstacles be overcome? Yeah, with some effort, but some of them might not be - like the girl getting her first period. Even if her fathers knew how to deal with this, would she come to them about it? I've never heard of a girl going to her father in that situation.
Certainly, a couple of gay parents would be preferrable to a foster home or an orphanage, but I still don't think it's an ideal situation for raising children.
I'm sorry, but if those weak examples are the best summation you can come to, I'd say gay couples don't have much to overcome. Yes, these situations can be difficult and/or akward, ANY well informed parent shouldn't have a problem with them, reguardless of orientation.
umm.....here is where i say...who the heck are you to give such a statement? Have you ever been through it? You can't possibly know unless you've ever been through it.
With the same notion, who are you to give such absurd statements on gay families as you have above?
Talk to any family psychologist. I'm sure it would be a no brainer for them to give you a entire lecture on it.