A new race - now for a trophy! The race has started!

[TennesseeTony]

In less than 3 days we are going to be overtaken by another team in UNIVERSE. They are gaining at a rate of 32,000 a day! We're only putting out about 60-65k a day right now.

(This is according to Free-DC total scores. Not sure if we're going by that or by some separate score-board for the Formula race)

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[biodoc]

In less than 3 days we are going to be overtaken by another team in UNIVERSE. They are gaining at a rate of 32,000 a day! We're only putting out about 60-65k a day right now.

(This is according to Free-DC total scores. Not sure if we're going by that or by some separate score-board for the Formula race)

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Here's the link for Formula boinc: http://formula-boinc.org/

It's a separate scoreboard and since Universe@home was created after the first of the year, it's, unfortunately, not one of the projects

 

[TennesseeTony]

Here's the link for Formula boinc: http://formula-boinc.org/

Great. If I've got that site figured out like I think I do, we're about to get a 2 point spanking on Milkyway in less than 2 days from team Overclock.net. We're pulling in ~900k a day, vs their 2.7mil.

I've been running POEM on GPU's, but shutting down at night due to 73F/21C weather and no air conditioning. Dang it dang it dang it. I was pulling the 2mil a day we need to hold 'em off before I switched to POEM, but MW is like turning the heat to high, POEM is medium heat.

I suppose I could run some cat5 under some doors and into the garage.

So, I propose in the event you run out of WU for Edges during the upcoming race, you be sure to have Milkyway as a backup, or both if you GPU compute. Be sure to set your preferences to ONLY run Milkyway 1.** applications, as they pay FAR better than the other tasks, and the other tasks tend to have other problems such as never completing.

And...did we get our point back already for Edges? (or am I indeed interpreting that website's data incorrectly? )


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[salvorhardin]

Yeah, we're ahead by 327 points right now.

 

[petrusbroder]

Current racers:
biodoc
Fardringle
Ken_g6
Orange Kid
Petrusbroder
salvorhardin
TennesseeTony

 

[petrusbroder]

Please join!
You can join now or later; there is no dead-line. OTOH, if you join eary you can collect more points ... and increase your chance to win ... if that is your goal.

The main point is however to helt the TeAm to increase the number of points in the Formula BOINC race.

In the past 10 days we have dropped by 3 points. We can do better! Look at these stats!!

 

[TennesseeTony]

For the "project #2: March 30 - April 12" I'm hoping and crossing my fingers for Milkyway because

1.) It's going to be too warm outdoors beyond that date to be (cost-effectively) running GPU tasks (for me).
2.) We've very recently been over-taken (lost 2 points) and they will be so far ahead in 16 days (beginning of race #2) that it will be challenging to catch them, but nearly impossible to catch them if we wait 30 days (race #3) or even longer. (Assuming they keep pulling ahead by 2million a day)

So with high hopes of that being the next project, I'm semi-abandoning my current GPU project, POEM, and going back to MW in an attempt to keep them from getting TOO far ahead. So I can't think of myself as a TAS member (guarding the rear), but maybe I'm more of a rogue, a guerrilla! Yeah, that's it, I'm the (to my knowlege) founding father of TAG, TeAm AnandTech Guerrillas.

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[petrusbroder]

32 hours and then the race starts ...
More racers?

 

[biodoc]

Patience is a virtue with edges. Given enough time the work will come and the cache will load up to normal.

No need to include GPUGrid, Poem or Einstein in the races. No chance of us picking up a formula boinc point on those projects.

Maybe I'll dust off my 1090T and see if I can solve the random crash problem. I think it's the HDD.

 

[biodoc]

I'm seeing a large # of invalid WUs. Old posts on the message board suggest if your wingman runs a different OS, the WU will be invalid. I don't have the energy to figure it out.

 

[TennesseeTony]

What's a wingman (in this context)?

 

[biodoc]

What's a wingman (in this context)?

This project has a minimum quorum of 2. That means they initially will send each work unit to 2 computers. So every WU you crunch there will be another user crunching the same WU. The other user crunching the same WU is your "wingman".

If the results of your WU doesn't match you wingman's result, boinc will send the WU out to a third computer. When the results come back from the third computer and they match the results of your WU or your wingman's results, one of you will get credit and the other won't.

Here's one WU where I didn't get credit (completed and marked as invalid)

http://home.edges-grid.eu/home/workunit.php?wuid=47645144

I think the issue is I'm running linux and the other 2 are running windows. The windows guys got credit and I didn't.

 

[Ken g6]

Patience is a virtue with edges. Given enough time the work will come and the cache will load up to normal.

Says you. I decided to do some magic to improve my odds of having work. :sneaky:

I'm seeing a large # of invalid WUs. Old posts on the message board suggest if your wingman runs a different OS, the WU will be invalid. I don't have the energy to figure it out.

Yes, I notice that between Windows and Linux, Linux usually loses.

 

[Rudy Toody]

Yes, I notice that between Windows and Linux, Linux usually loses.

I think it is something simple like CRLF vs LF. I suspect they compare results without stripping out the record terminators.

 

[TennesseeTony]

Speaking of Linux, I guess I'm going to have to convert soon, as I have multiple Windows10 Tech Previews (surprisingly stable OS) expiring mid April. Anyone have good tutorials linked somewhere on getting started with Linux and BOINC?

 

[Orange Kid]

Yes, I notice that between Windows and Linux, Linux usually loses.

Hmmmmmmm... all my invalid ones were valid in Linux ... Windows lost

 

[Ken g6]

Here's a forum post, last updated Jan 8. So I guess they're not paying attention.

Edit: I was just looking at a successful WU and noticed it was done on both Windows and Linux. So whatever fails doesn't fail every time.

 

[petrusbroder]

Here are the starting stats:

The TeAm is second in the world production: 29 438 points in one day, 114 790 points in one week; look here!
In the following 13 days we could probably produce some 375 K points, which could render us 3 more points ...

 

[TennesseeTony]

The race only begun under 3 hours ago, right?, so that's before we really started putting our all into it at that point.

The stats sites are behind actual production of course, "My Account" is showing that I'm gaining right at 1000 pts an hour, and that means the 4 of you that are faster than me are gaining more than 1000+ pts an hour, for a team total of at least 6000 pts an hour...x24 hours x13.75 more days= 1,980,000!

Somebody slap me if I can't do math or have something totally wrong there...

Speaking of our all, holy CPU power Batman! Some of you guys either have permission to use company resources or have some TRULY hot homes right now.

I've got 112 i7 threads running this race and so far TWO of you have nearly DOUBLED my score for the day!!! And another two of you are far ahead of me. I'm astonished at the raw power being dumped into this race so far!!!

 

[petrusbroder]

Tony, please remember, those numbers are not the production numbers, those are the start numbers. The first set of production numbers will be tomorrow! Therefore your math is off. The team produced a total of 29K points in the past 24 hours ...
In the first three hours the TeAm has produced 5 175 points which should translate to 41 400 points in one day --- or more.

 

[TennesseeTony]

In the following 13 days we could probably produce some 375 K points, which...

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm arguing with the math on this statement.

EDIT: added this in later to clarify/and or reduce the clutter of having a second post

Based on what I'm seeing on my Edges@home account page, I'm expecting the numbers to be rather impressive for a full race day.

Six hours ago my account showed 29 000 (total), and it's now showing 35 800. I'm on track for 24,000 for day one, and 4 of you are much much much faster than me. So I'm thinking (hoping) that (if the participation continues at this stiff pace) we will see more like 140 000 per day.

I'm assuming none of you have cheated by doing work but not reporting it until after the start. Thought about that myself, lol.

Anyway, we're going to get some serious score boosting regardless!

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[petrusbroder]

OK, yeah, you most certainly can do that - since that number is based on the past 24 hours production - not the current one ...
If you produce 1000 points/hour, that makes 330K only for you. I'll produce probably 41K during the race ... and then there are quite a few racers who have not yet started ... I most certainly hope we will produce at least 600 K in the race - which would give us at least 7 additional points ...
I really like to err in that direction!

 

[TennesseeTony]

My original (but perhaps over-zealous) estimate of almost 2 million is even better, gives us the top spot and a gain of 24 points, but...that does sound too good to be true.

I got the idea that we're doing so well from HERE. Shows you, Fardringle, Biodoc, and Salvorhardin as kicking my butt thus far.

 

[petrusbroder]

Well, those numbers are quite unstable. They will change.
E.g., I have a total of 42 cores, but only 32 of them are crunching EDGeS, by tomorrow they all will be doing that project. So I may end up at 9000 points a day at most ... probably less.
Let the numbers stabilize for at least 48 hours before drawing any reasonable conclusions. Also you should do at least 2½ times more points as I, since only 32 cores of mine are i7, the others are much older ... (C2Q and AMD Phenom I).

 

[petrusbroder]

... thus far.

Exactly. Thus far. But how about tomorrow, or the days after? That is the important point - or points ...
Those numbers are 10 hours old ... check the upper right corner:
Data Updated : Mon Mar 16, 11:56:50 2015 GMT
Current Time: Mon Mar 16, 21:55:17 2015 GMT