A non-hater Seagate thread

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Torn Mind

Lifer
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Not like anyone buys enterprise grade hard drives but either company's offerings in that area should be excellent.

I've gotten wise. Buy enterprise if you can afford it.
 

aigomorla

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well here's a non rant...

i just had a seagate drive fail on me.
Its the NAS edition, and guess what i still have 4 days left of warrenty.

So i can still RMA it... at least it decided to die before the warrenty expired, so i have to give it some credit.

LOL....
 

bigboxes

Lifer
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well here's a non rant...

i just had a seagate drive fail on me.
Its the NAS edition, and guess what i still have 4 days left of warrenty.

So i can still RMA it... at least it decided to die before the warrenty expired, so i have to give it some credit.

LOL....

LOL indeed
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Back when Maxtors began having their problems I switched to Seagate and have been using them ever since. Out of 6 only one has had issues and that may have been because I had bad Caps on an old Motherboard. Of the 3 I am still using one of them is over 8 years old. No complaints here.
 

poohbear

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They are doing what WD is doing... 8000 cut from WD as well.

It is a race to the bottom, so, expect products that are made even more cheaper than before. I wouldn't be shocked if they both trim the warranty to 6 months.

Sad days.
Well seagate did raise guidance last week saying they're expecting stronger sales (and their stock jumped 22% in one day as a result). So maybe it's not all downhill from here...there's still life.

See here:
http://www.investors.com/news/techn...dance-on-strong-disk-drive-demand-cuts-staff/
 
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fleshconsumed

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Have had ten ST4000DM000 in my fileserver for almost two years. No failures so far. The only issue is that they were parking heads like crazy. I disabled the head parking by finding a guide online, but not before each and everyone of them racked up about 415K parking events. They still work though. For my latest three drives I went with HGST because Fry's had them at crazy good price.

Seagate has had a really bad 1TB model that had firmware issues and really bad 3TB model, but a lot of their drives are really solid. If you believe backblaze a lot of seagate drives are actually more reliable than equivalent WD.
 

Joepublic2

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I'm not a fan boy for any particular brand but I do exclusively buy HGST drives after seeing those backblaze results. They seem to have the lowest failure rates on average across their entire product line which points to them being better engineered and/or using higher quality components. That BLE640 looks like it had some manufacturing issues, though.
 
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Nashemon

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I really only care about price now-a-days. Every hard drive will fail one day. Keep good backups and it really doesn't matter. Western Digital used to do it for me. Before that, Maxtor was my goto. I started buying Seagate about 7 years ago because they were the cheapest I could find, and have consistently remained that way. As my digital needs have expanded, I've accumulated nearly 40TB worth of Seagate drives. Couple of 2's, two of the infamous 3's, five 4's, and just got a new external 8TB.

Between all of them, not a single one of them has failed me yet. I've had some corruption issues, but I suspect that was due to the way I was connecting the drives to my PC, through a powered USB hub with a flakey power adapter attached to a single USB 2.0 port. The data was easily recovered, and I don't connect them that way anymore and haven't had the issue since.

I did purchase one 3TB WD drive in this time frame because it was the cheapest when I needed it, but after one year, it started getting corrosion on it's board. I successfully cleaned it up and got my data off of it, but the corrosion came back and it's dead now.

The only non Seagate that I'm running now is a PNY SSD for my OS (again, the cheapest at the time I bought it).
 

Nashemon

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Have had ten ST4000DM000 in my fileserver for almost two years. No failures so far. The only issue is that they were parking heads like crazy. I disabled the head parking by finding a guide online, but not before each and everyone of them racked up about 415K parking events. They still work though. For my latest three drives I went with HGST because Fry's had them at crazy good price.

Seagate has had a really bad 1TB model that had firmware issues and really bad 3TB model, but a lot of their drives are really solid. If you believe backblaze a lot of seagate drives are actually more reliable than equivalent WD.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about the head parking. Some of mine did that every 30 seconds for a long time, I tried to fix it with updated firmware, but couldn't get any of them to update for some reason. But the parking has stopped since then. Not sure why.
 

lupi

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Have only had 3 drives die on me. Oldest was one that cropped out on reboot after doing a mb/cpu changeout, can't recall the brand.

About 3 years I had a ST and WD die one after the other. Best part was being able to mail the WD drive back in using the ST box.
 

aigomorla

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i retract my statement about the drive dying under warrenty...

apparently seagates warrenty starts the date the drive is shipped to vendor, and not the date you purchased it, even tho the vendor is an authorized vendor.

Sigh...

So i am going to take the left door exit out of this non hater thread, because well, i dont want to be the black goat...
 

bigboxes

Lifer
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i retract my statement about the drive dying under warrenty...

apparently seagates warrenty starts the date the drive is shipped to vendor, and not the date you purchased it, even tho the vendor is an authorized vendor.

Sigh...

So i am going to take the left door exit out of this non hater thread, because well, i dont want to be the black goat...

It's the date on the label, not when you purchased it. Sorry for your misfortune. I've had many out of warranty. I miss the days of five year warranties (pre-Thai flooding) for every day drives.
 
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