A pc gaming lounge in NYC

Workpac

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I am considering opening up a pc gaming lounge in NYC. I was wondering what everyone's thoughts on this are. I would use UHD monitors and high end gaming desktops. I would also offer the ability to use mods and if possible the ability for people to save their games to a server.
 

Workpac

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The year is 2014 which also just so happens to be the year that 4k gaming is really starting to pick up
 

poofyhairguy

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Gaming as a culture is dominated by consoles. The computer gamers who are out there will have their own rigs and supplies of cheetos.
 

Insomniator

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There is one in Queens, I've played in a few SC2 tournaments there. Overall though, I just don't see the profit in it... most people have their own consoles. PC game nerds will have their own rigs.
 

z1ggy

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Gaming as a culture is dominated by consoles. The computer gamers who are out there will have their own rigs and supplies of cheetos.

Don't forget redbull & monster! Oh!! and plenty of lube because most of them don't ever get laid.
 

Rakehellion

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Unless you charge a mint and have ultra high foot traffic, you're going to struggle to keep your head above water.

Better keep a few consoles around for Dance Central and Guitar Hero because that's all 90% of people will want to play.
 

AznAnarchy99

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What year is it?

2004 sure. 2014 not so much.

The main reason why PC gaming cafes were so popular back then was because decent computers for gaming was really expensive and broadband was not wide spread. Nowadays even your basic POS $500 Dell can run 80% of games on low settings. Here in So Cal they used to be the shit and now they're all pretty much closed down.
 

Paladin3

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Your targeting a very small customer base, and those nerds who have money to spend will already have their own systems.

There is almost zero demand for gaming cafes except for places where people don't otherwise have access to computers. Even then, more people just want Internet access rather than wanting to actually game.

Arcades are dead because too many people game at home. Consoles are the preferred platform for anyone not a PC nerd too.

The first rule of business is to take care of your customers. A huge part of that is to give them what they want. There is almost zero demand for gaming cafes today. It's a very attractive business to want to get into if you are a gaming nerd yourself. I've thought about it, but if you draw up a realistic business plan and do your research you will quickly figure out there is not enough demand for it to work.

Maybe you could try and add gaming to a really nice NYC club of some kind. Nah, that wouldn't work either because dancing, music, sex, drugs, alcohol > gaming. There is a reason for the nerd in the basement PC gamer stereotype. I doubt you can monetize that.
 

JTsyo

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For this to be successful I think you would have to provide more than just a place to use a computer. Maybe host competition or be a venue for viewing e-sports. Hosting small LAN parties and such would also help in building a community.
 

Workpac

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All of this is true but the average person does not have enough money to game at 4k. Imagine games like skyrim, cod, battlefield, bioshock, titanfall, etc at 4k. It totally eclipses whatever consoles have to offer in the way of graphics, and mods add gameplay value. With the current price of 4k monitors and pcs to power them I highly doubt if the average consumer can afford it. This is what makes this idea something that people cannot just do at home. I would also do the community part as well. On a side note I am starting to suspect that many posters here are console master race types lol.
 

Rakehellion

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All of this is true but the average person does not have enough money to game at 4k. Imagine games like skyrim, cod, battlefield, bioshock, titanfall, etc at 4k.

They'd all look like shit because those games are designed with 1GB video memory in mind. Half of those aren't even DX11.

On a side note I am starting to suspect that many posters here are console master race types lol.

Isn't that the audience you're targeting?
 

BoberFett

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All of this is true but the average person does not have enough money to game at 4k. Imagine games like skyrim, cod, battlefield, bioshock, titanfall, etc at 4k. It totally eclipses whatever consoles have to offer in the way of graphics, and mods add gameplay value. With the current price of 4k monitors and pcs to power them I highly doubt if the average consumer can afford it. This is what makes this idea something that people cannot just do at home. I would also do the community part as well. On a side note I am starting to suspect that many posters here are console master race types lol.

That or common sense types.
 

Workpac

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They'd all look like shit because those games are designed with 1GB video memory in mind. Half of those aren't even DX11.

There is no a shred of factual truth in this. I have ps4, xb1, and pc. PC @ 4k always and I mean ALWAYS wins against consoles @ 720p-1080p. Furthermore pc games have higher resolution textures, and next gen consoles have 8gb ram. What you are saying is wrong and it tell me exactly how console ppl think.

Isn't that the audience you're targeting?
It is a PART of the audience I am targeting, and not its entirety. I do not have to do much to convince people that pc is better all you have to do is sit down and see it yourself. No gimmicks involved.
 

poofyhairguy

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All of this is true but the average person does not have enough money to game at 4k. Imagine games like skyrim, cod, battlefield, bioshock, titanfall, etc at 4k. It totally eclipses whatever consoles have to offer in the way of graphics, and mods add gameplay value.

Meh. Its not enough value.

Heck there are still many people who SWEAR the non retina iPad looks "just as good." Just upping the resolution isn't a killer feature.

With the current price of 4k monitors and pcs to power them I highly doubt if the average consumer can afford it.

And therein lies the problem- there is little buzz accompanying 4K gaming that you would ride on. One single place doesn't have the marketing momentum to create that buzz.

On a side note I am starting to suspect that many posters here are console master race types lol.

That is most of the gaming community lol. People want to play each other. I know more than one person who has bought a game on a last gen console (despite having a newer console or PC with a port said game) because "I want to play with my friends, and they all have 360's."
 

Workpac

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That or common sense types.
Common sense dictates that people will pay for what they cannot acquire, granted the demand is present. People obviously demand better graphics or else the xbox one and ps4 would not be selling so well.
 

Workpac

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Meh. Its not enough value.

Heck there are still many people who SWEAR the non retina iPad looks "just as good." Just upping the resolution isn't a killer feature.



And therein lies the problem- there is little buzz accompanying 4K gaming that you would ride on. One single place doesn't have the marketing momentum to create that buzz.



That is most of the gaming community lol. People want to play each other. I know more than one person who has bought a game on a last gen console (despite having a newer console or PC with a port said game) because "I want to play with my friends, and they all have 360's."

You could play with your friends in person at a lounge such as the one i suggested. You could play with them in person on a better looking screen. The reason there is not enough buzz (which is definitely disputable) for 4k is because it is too expensive for the average consumer. People do not show interest in what they cant afford. Especially console gamers.
 

Workpac

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Your targeting a very small customer base, and those nerds who have money to spend will already have their own systems.

There is almost zero demand for gaming cafes except for places where people don't otherwise have access to computers. Even then, more people just want Internet access rather than wanting to actually game.

Arcades are dead because too many people game at home. Consoles are the preferred platform for anyone not a PC nerd too.

The first rule of business is to take care of your customers. A huge part of that is to give them what they want. There is almost zero demand for gaming cafes today. It's a very attractive business to want to get into if you are a gaming nerd yourself. I've thought about it, but if you draw up a realistic business plan and do your research you will quickly figure out there is not enough demand for it to work.

Maybe you could try and add gaming to a really nice NYC club of some kind. Nah, that wouldn't work either because dancing, music, sex, drugs, alcohol > gaming. There is a reason for the nerd in the basement PC gamer stereotype. I doubt you can monetize that.

Arcades are dead? Ever heard of Dave and Busters? And not only nerds like to play games. Most college students enjoy their fair share of gaming. Really the business is for people like you guys. People who are surfing forums on a computer hardware website at around mid-day. Would you consider yourself a basement nerd for that?
 
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