!!!a plane has crashed into the world trade center building

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isildur

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This is actually a declaration of WAR by someone on the USA.


Well, it looks like one anyway.

I wish broadcasters would not invoke this kind of rhetoric on the air because everyone starts using it.

A "declaration of war" is something very specific - remember that we never "declared war" in Vietnam & we certainly made more than three attacks there.

When you "declare war," a nation brings the full might of its military machine to bear on the other party.

What about when a terrorist group "declares war?" Certainly not the same thing, but perhaps this is what we have seen.

 

im2smrt4u

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The most unreal quote ever:

"My God, they are flying air cover over Washington."
-Undisclosed security official

im2smrt4u
 

wyvrn

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<< am i the only one that feels like this is the beginning of the end, i'm not saying that the world is ending tomorrow, but that in the future we will all look back at this incident and say that it was what started the destruction of society as we know it
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This is a tragedy, but please don't over react.
 

SpongeBob

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That was the first thing that popped into my head, Viper. I am already worried about the draft. Especially after the Clinton downsizing of the military for the last 8 years.

I work for the Dept. of Defense. Trust me there is no need to worry about the strength of the U.S. military.
 

MrMikey

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Anyone ever read Clancy? In one of his books he wrote about a Japanese pilot who took his 747 and flew it into the Capital building during a joint session of Congress, killing most of America's federal legislators. Seems like an eerie prediction now. I wonder if there is a cause and effect relationship. I wonder what Mr. Clancy is feeling right now?
 

ChipNOW

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No bigdog... I'm 12000km away from the US yet I feel the same way...

One slang-word-thingy... omg
 

iamwiz82

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<< Anyone ever read Clancy? In one of his books he wrote about a Japanese pilot who took his 747 and flew it into the Capital building during a joint session of Congress, killing most of America's federal legislators. Seems like an eerie prediction now. I wonder if there is a cause and effect relationship. I wonder what Mr. Clancy is feeling right now? >>



i guess you didnt read the whole thread, eh?
 

isildur

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Apparently there were existing bomb charges in the WTC towers -- they measured it to the second, and exactly 30 minutes after the planes hit the towers, the towers fell. To the second.

This is definitely a planned attack.


where did you see this? I watched the whole thing on the news and it definitely did NOT look like this is what happened.
1 - no visible explosion
2 - the buildings fell from the top down; NOT how you would plant explosives to blow up a building
 

im2smrt4u

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The most unreal quote ever:

"My God, they are flying air cover over Washington."
-Undisclosed security official

im2smrt4u
 

kru

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Apparently there were existing bomb charges in the WTC towers -- they measured it to the second, and exactly 30 minutes after the planes hit the towers, the towers fell. To the second.


Randal, has this been verified? when I saw the second tower collapse, it looked too controlled, too well distributed to have been a result of the airplane collision.
 

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"American Airlines confirmed today that it lost two aircraft in tragic incidents this morning," the airline said.

One was Flight 11, a Boeing 767 en route from Boston to Los Angeles with 81 passengers, nine flight attendants and two pilots, it said.

The other was Flight 77, a Boeing 757 operating from Washington Dulles to Los Angeles with 58 passengers, four flight attendants and two pilots.


From news.com link below.



I would estimate(and hope like heck) that the vast majority of people below where the planes impacted the WTC would have gotten out of the WTC in time. The others... I don't want to think about it.

Bin Ladin is the man. (my opinion)
 

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<< am i the only one that feels like this is the beginning of the end, i'm not saying that the world is ending tomorrow, but that in the future we will all look back at this incident and say that it was what started the destruction of society as we know it
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good lord, thats how terrorists think.. stop it. if the world were to end because of horrific actions.. we would have been gone long ago.
 

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<< That was the first thing that popped into my head, Viper. I am already worried about the draft. Especially after the Clinton downsizing of the military for the last 8 years. >>



If the US government starts the draft I WILL join before my name is called. I, as a US citizen, feel that this is my responsibility, and I hope I'm not alone in saying this.
 

randal

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heard it on C|Net radio -- it makes sense too. Those buildings did not collapse of their own volition. Also, exactly 30 minutes after either building was struck, the buildings fell. If you watch the videos, the top of the buildings bulge ominously before they come down. If the charges were planted on the inside of the building, the structure would crash down the center.

randal
 

iamwiz82

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<<

<< That was the first thing that popped into my head, Viper. I am already worried about the draft. Especially after the Clinton downsizing of the military for the last 8 years. >>



If the US government starts the draft I WILL join before my name is called. I, as a US citizen, feel that this is my responsibility, and I hope I'm not alone in saying this.
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i think a good portion of us are with you. The Vietnam draft was hated because nothing like this happened to the US. We didnt have towersblown to pieces, etc. Now that someone has done this ON OUR OWN SOIL everyone is at arms!
 

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. THREATCON is a DoD process that sets the level for a terrorist threat condition (as described below) at a given location (in this case the Pentagon) and is based on existing intelligence and other information. The entrance signs are in addition to the telephonic notification of THREATCON levels by DPS to building security agencies. These entrance signs will allow building occupants to know the threat condition level at the Pentagon as soon as they enter the building.

The following is a listing of the THREATCON level information that will be posted at the entrances each day in accordance with the level for the day:

THREATCON NORMAL - No threat of terrorist activity is present.

THREATCON ALPHA - There is a general threat of possible terrorist activity against installations, building locations, and/or personnel, the nature and extent of which are unpredictable.

THREATCON BRAVO - There is an increased and more predictable threat of terrorist activity even though no particular target has been identified.

THREATCON CHARLIE - An incident has occurred or intelligence has been received indicating that some form of terrorist action is imminent.

THREATCON DELTA - A terrorist attack has occurred or intelligence has been received that action against a specific location is likely.
 
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