AhemLooking over thread I see no sympathy for the abused black students over the years. All the concern seems to be for this poor little white girl. I also don't see any criticism for the school district for the lack of actions on the students complaints.
Says a lot.
oopsLooking over thread I see no sympathy for the abused black students over the years. All the concern seems to be for this poor little white girl. I also don't see any criticism for the school district for the lack of actions on the students complaints.
Says a lot.
She isn’t canceled.Just a few things:
1 If the word shouldn't be used, it shouldn't be used by Anyone for any context.
2 Saying "N Word" is the same as saying the actual Word.
3 Teenagers say and do stupid things, Cancelling one over a 3 second video is stupid
Is she dead? Has her career been ended? Will she be unable to work ever again? Is she unable to pursue a college education?She was.
Is she dead? Has her career been ended? Will she be unable to work ever again? Is she unable to pursue a college education?
She exercised her freedom of speech and now is suffering some temporary consequences because of it. Her life will go on.
I can assure you if I pulled the same stunt in a professional environment I would be looking for new employment. It’s not cancel culture it’s called being held accountable. For some reason the party of personal responsibility never wants to accept accountability for their actions.
So you are opposed to holding people accountable for their actions?I don't make the definition of what "Cancelled" means in this context. No one Dies when they are "Cancelled". Nor are they permanently Unemployed. They do lose a Job/Position/Opportunity due to a Mob Action though, that's what "Cancelling" is.
So you are opposed to holding people accountable for their actions?
I see still no valid reason (because there isnt one) why Cardi b can say the N word (and others who are not black) and it be a-ok. While for others its a life killer. Yet Halsey, who actually is black, can't even braid her hair without being called out. Once again for the record, the word is despicable. I hate to hear it used by anyone. Towards anyone. Its disgusting to hear, and there are too many "rules" to use it. But then again, there are different rules for racism all together, which is not how it should be. It should all be dealt with the same way, it should never allowed. Some people getting a pass for it is ridiculous and creates more of a divide. Just like some people on these forums do.
As per usual, someone who is against a racist word in any context, is being called a racist. When all that does is highlight your bias, good job.
Again can you provide your rules for who is black?I see still no valid reason (because there isnt one) why Cardi b can say the N word (and others who are not black) and it be a-ok. While for others its a life killer. Yet Halsey, who actually is black, can't even braid her hair without being called out. Once again for the record, the word is despicable. I hate to hear it used by anyone. Towards anyone. Its disgusting to hear, and there are too many "rules" to use it. But then again, there are different rules for racism all together, which is not how it should be. It should all be dealt with the same way, it should never allowed. Some people getting a pass for it is ridiculous and creates more of a divide. Just like some people on these forums do.
As per usual, someone who is against a racist word in any context, is being called a racist. When all that does is highlight your bias, good job.
Why was this girl's life ruined over a 3 second video where she says the n word once, when Cardi B makes millions from videos where she says it hundreds of times?
It's be great if your professed ideals here would come to fruition, and part of that would be to stop pretending like racism is dead in the USA
While you need to accept that, as Thomas Sowell said, it's on life-support. To continue to worship at that particular alter screams "hidden agenda."
I am opposed to Cancelling someone because they said a stupid Word when they were a stupid 15 year old. Especially since that time the same Person has been supporting causes that the potentially Offended would benefit from.
The consequences were swift. Over the next two days, Ms. Groves was removed from the university’s cheer team. She then withdrew from the school under pressure from admissions officials, who told her they had received hundreds of emails and phone calls from outraged alumni, students and the public.
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Once the video went viral, the backlash was swift, and relentless. A photograph of Ms. Groves, captioned with a racial slur, also began circulating online, but she and her parents say someone else wrote it to further tarnish her reputation. On social media, people tagged the University of Tennessee and its cheer team, demanding her admission be rescinded. Some threatened her with physical violence if she came to the university campus. The next day, local media outlets in Virginia and Tennessee published articles about the uproar.
But the story behind the backlash also reveals a more complex portrait of behavior that for generations had gone unchecked in schools in one of the nation’s wealthiest counties, where Black students said they had long been subjected to ridicule. “Go pick cotton,” some said they were told in class by white students.
Ms. Groves’s parents, who said their daughter was being targeted by a social media “mob” for a mistake she made as an adolescent, urged university officials to assess her character by speaking with her high school and cheer coaches.
Again can you provide your rules for who is black?
She was a high school student and Schools look at what you do in high school to decide if you are a good fit for the school.
15 year old's should be made aware of this by their parents.
The university is under no obligation to be understanding of an incoming students stupidity as a 15 year old. Their obligation is to protect the integrity of the school.
Whats interesting is this
From the Schools perspective, what value is speaking to High School staff in a School that culturally tolerated bullshit behavior?
If a prospective student comes from an environment where this sort of dickery is common and there is evidence that she participated in such dickery of the past AND current students and Alumni are raising a stink, I don't fault the university for not wanting her on their cheer team and not wanting the controversy that she brings.
She is currently attending community college and will most likely transfer over to another school to get an education. From there she will fade into obscurity as another member of the work force.
She is not cancelled. Her life is not over. She is facing what thousands of students across the country face in that she got rejected by a school for her own fuckup.
Ackmed is making declarative statements about who is and who is not black. I am seeking to understand how he is making these determinations.Do you ask this because you really don't know, or in an effort to bash Ackmed?
Feel free to elaborate.
In a truly racist society blacks would be no better off than most of us were during slavery and shortly thereafter. Instead, blacks exist on every economic and professional rung of the big ladder, just like whites. To see us only as poor, set upon and terrified chocolate people isn't seeing reality. I listened to a black Astrophysicist run on about potential alien worlds last night. It was fabulous! Hence racism is on "life support" on nowhere near the problem some want to believe it is. If you want more Mr. Sowell wasn't shy about his thoughts/opinions.
I hope this addressed your almost-question.
She was cancelled due to Public Pressure, not because she didn't pass normal Admission procedures.
Ackmed is making declarative statements about who is and who is not black. I am seeking to understand how he is making these determinations.
You keep saying the word "cancelled" and it's not doing you any favors.
Would it be possible to communicate in normal adult language?
What if there were no public outcry and the university simply said that based on her social media presence that they did not feel that she was suitable for the Schools cheer team?
The school became aware of an issue with an incoming student.
Several risks were identified and they handled it.
Like you mentioned, her invitation to join the the schools cheer team was rescinded due to the reaction of Alumni and the student body.
Admissions recognizing the inherent risk of her attending asked her withdraw her application.
All this stems from her actions. That's the root cause.
Your position appears to be that you are upset that the public reacted to the knowledge of her actions unfavorably.