A sad day :-(

[Robor]

I shut down my SetiQ at work yesterday so I'll have only a few systems from home producing for me now. Production will go from about 160 per day to maybe 15 or so. I'm also going to have to track down my DF clients and stop the service on them. My DF production will flatline soon.

Why? All because the "tech" who filled in for me on vacation saw the CPU at 99% when there was a problem with a system. Not that stopping the SETI service fixed the problem or anything. Just something the "tech" didn't understand so it was reported to the director. He knew about it but didn't care because there's never been a problem. Now he thinks it's a bad idea and wants the SETI clients stopped. Odd that it's been okay for nearly 4 years but now is a problem.

Same old story - we've all heard it before. I guess I'll follow the path of so many who've had powerful work fleets grounded. Oh well, life goes on...

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EDIT: Well I gave in and fired up the SetiQ box. I mean, um, a freak power surge must've turned the SetiQ box back on. Yeah, that's it... (that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

 

[JWMiddleton]

Bummer Rob! Another case of technical stupidity!

 

[m2kewl]

from one grounded fleet captain to another, yes life does go on.

 

[micron]

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Robor
I shut down my SetiQ at work yesterday so I'll have only a few systems from home producing for me now. Production will go from about 160 per day to maybe 15 or so. I'm also going to have to track down my DF clients and stop the service on them. My DF production will flatline soon.

Why? All because the "tech" who filled in for me on vacation saw the CPU at 99% when there was a problem with a system. Not that stopping the SETI service fixed the problem or anything. Just something the "tech" didn't understand so it was reported to the director. He knew about it but didn't care because there's never been a problem. Now he thinks it's a bad idea and wants the SETI clients stopped. Odd that it's been okay for nearly 4 years but now is a problem.

Same old story - we've all heard it before. I guess I'll follow the path of so many who've had powerful work fleets grounded. Oh well, life goes on...

Incredible, 4 years of precident de-railed by one moment of an idiots thought.

It is more important than ever to spread the word in the U.S. that Computers should be used as a tool for mankind to the fullest extent possible when man is not using the machine itself. So many Countries recognizing and progressing the potential of every linked Computer to work on finding the next Pennicillin or the keys to a next Technical revolution and you have the U.S. digressing and dumbing down this powerful resource is more than just sad, it should be labled as the true crime.


"Just something the "tech" didn't understand".

So why is this guy still working? Why is he considered and labeled as a "Tech"? He is obviously dificient in his knowledge and instead of learning and filling his gap in information is allowed to tag something he doesn't understand as being a problem? People like this stifle progress and innovation.

What if the guy who invented the wheel, made a wheel barrel and people were pleased with the "extra" work getting done, then he added 2 more wheels to it and made a cart and then the cart can actually go faster than man but wait, one guy doesn't understand that this thing can go so fast so it must be bad, take all of those wheels off! Where would be now?

"He knew about it but didn't care because there's never been a problem. Now he thinks it's a bad idea".

OK, there is a problem with the decision making ability here too. Never been a problem for 4 years and all of a sudden a "bad" idea? The bad idea stems from the individual who clearly doesn't understand technology in his chosen field of work. This "Director" and all those that claim to be in the know about technology must be cast in the light that they actually do not know the very technology they are charged with. The U.S. should have a National agenda like the other progressive Countries like the Netherlands, Germany and so many others to use the under-utilized Computing resources to the most that man can get out of it. The President just signed a $15 billion dollar iniative towards the battle in the AIDS virus and Distributed Computing should be a part of that drive with the projects that help man work towards a cure or vaccine for it.

The Country should not let the fleeting moments of thoughts from a couple of individuals that lack the ability to progress to be the digress of Man's Digital evolution.

 

[OhioDude]

Sad day indeed.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Robor
Same old story - we've all heard it before. I guess I'll follow the path of so many who've had powerful work fleets grounded. Oh well, life goes on...

yeah, i wish there was a way to replace the idle process watcher thingy, it is so misunderstood anyway , sorry man

 

[NokiaDude]

So what? They weren't even YOUR computers anyways. Maybe the tech deemed it bad because all the crunchin computers were draining more power than they need too? It cost's money to keep feeding crunchin computer power, and if it's not your computer then whoever owns the computer has the say on it.

 

[BlackMountainCow]

That's crap! And this guy really calls himself a "tech" ?? He must have won this title in a lottery then ...

 

[poopaskoopa]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
So what? They weren't even YOUR computers anyways. Maybe the tech deemed it bad because all the crunchin computers were draining more power than they need too? It cost's money to keep feeding crunchin computer power, and if it's not your computer then whoever owns the computer has the say on it.

You missed the point. The tech didn't deem it bad because it was draining power(hence the reference to the 99% CPU time).

 

[ICXRa]

Man that is a huge bummer!
:|

 

[RaySun2Be]

*sigh* ignorance reigns again.

 

[Smoke]

Another SEAGULL bringing down the wrath of the ADMINISPHERE! :|

Rob,

Remember when you took over the top spot from The_One, one of you would dump and regain the lead and then the other would counter. It was a very exciting time.

Now we have tens of thousands of WUs being turned in by "mysterious", "super-computers" from all over the world every day. :Q

It times like these when we need to keep our focus. Each DC project has a purpose and it was this purpose that got most of us started. So let's move on with our "honest, true crunch" and just do the best we can. We are all part of a TeAm and the least is as important as the most.

"Eyes on the Prize!"





I know you are going to ask so here are the definitions:

SEAGULL MANAGER: A manager, who flies in, makes a lot of noise, craps on everything, and then leaves.

ADMINISPHERE: The rarefied organizational layers beginning just above the rank and file. Decisions that fall from the adminisphere are often profoundly inappropriate or irrelevant to the problems they were designed to solve.

 

[RaySun2Be]

I know you are going to ask so here are the definitions:

SEAGULL MANAGER: A manager, who flies in, makes a lot of noise, craps on everything, and then leaves.

ADMINISPHERE: The rarefied organizational layers beginning just above the rank and file. Decisions that fall from the adminisphere are often profoundly inappropriate or irrelevant to the problems they were designed to solve.

LOL!

 

[ViRGE]

If I may ask so, how was the tech supposed to know that it was something good(Seti) and not something bad? If I say my CPU usage spike to 100%, and it's not something I recognize, I'd be a bit freaked out myself.

 

[Wiz]

That's what you get for taking a vacation!

The tech should have asked more questions and pointed less fingers, but was likely under the gun to "perform" and saw what looked like a problem to him & freaked out about it instead of calmly making sure this was indeed the cause of the problem by shutting it down and seeing if the problem went away. If the problem was still there after shutting seti down he should have assumed it wasn't caused by seti and therefore seti was not his business.
Who knows, maybe he was trying to score brownie points with management during his big chance to be the Tech.

 

[MoFunk]

What an idiot. What did this guy do, see the cpu was 100%, freaked out, and ran to tell someone? Sounds like one of those guys I talk to every once in a while, Mr. "Hi I am Bill, I have a fancy title on my name plate, it says network technician, however under normal circumstaces I really would not be able to find my arse in the dark with both hands"

I get bothered that dumb people like this have jobs, and many of our AT family do not! It is not right. Hey everyone that does not have a job, here is what you need to do.......DUMB UP a little, it evidently works!

A PC sitting around idle is nothing more than a paper wieght if you ask me. It is a WASTE of power NOT TO USE IT to it's full potential. I have friends that I have tried to put seti on their systems and they freak out because they don't want their PC running 100% all the time. Yet they leave it on 24/7 to run their pretty 3-D screen savers! These are the people I put at the bottom of the list of things to do when they need help with their PC.

 

[mechBgon]

Scums! :disgust: Logic, reason and common sense will never overcome 'The Way Things Have Always Been Done'... :| Hold your head up Robor, you're still a pillar of the Team to me, big fleet or small

 

[BadThad]

Man oh man....soooooo sorry to hear that bro. It's amazing how misunderstood all this is. I once had the same problem here at work. A chump MIS guy that even owed me big time went crying about the client on a few PC's. I had to remove them. Then he retired and I was able to make a modest come back on a few machines. Hopefully, someday soon, the ignorants will leave your company and you can make a come back.

 

[zodder]

Sorry to hear that Robor.

 

[Intelligence3]

Bummer Robor. Sorry to hear. I just hope no one in MIS figures out my SETI use, too.

 

[Ken g6]

Why does it seem so hard to find bosses who like DC?

 

[Ken g6]

Originally posted by: Intelligence3
Bummer Robor. Sorry to hear. I just hope no one in MIS figures out my SETI use, too.

*ahem* Dave, since you're in this thread, you want to take this one?

Basically, if the owner(s) of the computer(s) don't know about and approve of SETI, you could get in big trouble.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
So what? They weren't even YOUR computers anyways. Maybe the tech deemed it bad because all the crunchin computers were draining more power than they need too? It cost's money to keep feeding crunchin computer power, and if it's not your computer then whoever owns the computer has the say on it.

You're clueless if you really think that arguement is a valid reason for removing the client.

 

[Assimilator1]

Man I can't believe it ,1 stupid ass & TAs longest serving work fleet is dry docked:|.

Robor
Did you ask the director why he now thought it was a bad idea?
Can't hurt to ask politely right?

Sorry to hear of your lost fleet mate ,but you'll still be just as valued around here as a TA member
Btw when do your work fleet start crunching?

Nokia dude
So what? They weren't even YOUR computers anyways. Maybe the tech deemed it bad because all the crunchin computers were draining more power than they need too? It cost's money to keep feeding crunchin computer power, and if it's not your computer then whoever owns the computer has the say on it.

So what?? he's lost a huge amount of output ,thats what is 'so what'!

,not to mention that he had permission to run SETI on all those rigs anyway.
Also assuming those PCs are left on anyway the power drain increase from 100% loaded cpus compared to low load is very small.
Oh yeah ,& power useage wasn't the reason given anyway ,it was cpu useage.