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[DHT]Osiris

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We don't extra-judicially execute domestic terrorists. You guys are seriously going off the deep end.
Was he talking about domestic terrorists? No, he was talking about terrorists in the ME.

That's the literal text of his tweet. He suggested hunting down Antifa (whom is whoever he wants, and who he regards as terrorists), like we do those in the Middle East.
 

Vic

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You have a choice between 100% chance of damnation and 99% chance. Which do you choose?
Having been raised in a devoutly religious home, where bible study was part of daily life, and having given tremendous thought to this matter in my adult life, I have come to the realization that God is far more concerned that we live righteous lives than He is in our impotent oaths and our vain displays of worship.

Matthew 7:
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
 

killster1

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I don't know about this, but I don't believe it's the point either. The point is, who is antifa? Who are these people who Gaetz wants the US military to hunt down and execute on American soil? What due process rights will American citizens have to protect themselves from being arbitrarily labeled by the govt as 'antifa?'
Really wish we could get one of the resident Trump supporters in here to explain why they support this.
You are stretching, he didn't say hunt down and kill. You are making things up. You don't know people are hiring some of the protestors? You don't know people are leaving weapons out for them? Not a shred of evidence??? I've seen Antifa members many times destroying things and worse. Guess you only see what you want to see or have not been out much.
 

dawp

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Name me one domestic terrorist who has been killed extra-judicially.
every AA person killed by the police, at least that's what cops frames many of them as to begin with until the truth come out.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Alright nevermind I didn't see that.
You know, we're not all off-the-rails socialists. Sometimes people say and do some really fucked up shit, unfortunately they're mostly conservatives now, because the adults left the building a long fucking time ago.

Attacking modern conservatives isn't attacking you, unless you identify as one of them, which I hope you do not.
 
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Atreus21

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Having been raised in a devoutly religious home, where bible study was part of daily life, and having given tremendous thought to this matter in my adult life, I have come to the realization that God is far more concerned that we live righteous lives than He is in our impotent oaths and our vain displays of worship.

Matthew 7:
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

He said "I never knew you." God is personal. You can't just do "good" without trying your best to determine what "good" means. You have to make some attempt to know him.

If our attempts are sincere he is pleased even with our stumbles.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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You are stretching, he didn't say hunt down and kill. You are making things up.
See my link to his tweet. He said treat them as we do 'terrorists in the ME'. Guess what we do after we hunt those terrorists down.
You don't know people are hiring some of the protestors? You don't know people are leaving weapons out for them?
Citation, REPUTABLE CITATION.
I've seen Antifa members many times destroying things and worse.
Pics or it didn't happen.
 

Atreus21

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You know, we're not all off-the-rails socialists. Sometimes people say and do some really fucked up shit, unfortunately they're mostly conservatives now, because the adults left the building a long fucking time ago.

Attacking modern conservatives isn't attacking you, unless you identify as one of them, which I hope you do not.

Of course I identify as conservative. Not sure what the modern qualifier means.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Of course I identify as conservative. Not sure what the modern qualifier means.
You don't see a difference between conservatism during Bush V1.0 and today? Can you imagine any conservative senator during Bush Sr's administration calling for the extrajudicial killing of US citizens?
 
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Atreus21

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You don't see a difference between conservatism during Bush V1.0 and today?

No, not fundamentally. You don't see any difference between the left-wingers during Clinton and those of today?

Can you imagine any conservative senator during Bush Sr's administration calling for the extrajudicial killing of US citizens?

No, not offhand. But circumstances are different right now. The culture war is at its apogee. At least I hope it is. If Trump wins or Chauvin is acquitted, people should live in fear of what progressives will do.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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No, not fundamentally.
Then you aren't paying attention. They at least paid lip service to religious institutions at that point, now they're gassing priests and churchgoers for Trump's fucking photo shoots.
You don't see any difference between the left-wingers during Clinton and those of today?
You mean other than calling conservatives out on their current lunacy, and trying to make things better for all of our citizens?
 

Vic

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You are stretching, he didn't say hunt down and kill. You are making things up. You don't know people are hiring some of the protestors? You don't know people are leaving weapons out for them? Not a shred of evidence??? I've seen Antifa members many times destroying things and worse. Guess you only see what you want to see or have not been out much.

If I searched in the thread about the Jade Helm incident, where conservatives panicked that a routine military training exercise was a cover for a govt coup, will I find your name there?

BTW what I do see, quite clearly in fact, is that Trumpism consists largely of making up self-serving narratives and downright lies in order to rationalize the use of violent govt force against their political opposition.
Case in point: a citizen who was extrajudicially executed by law enforcement cutting off his breathing for 8 minutes deserved it because he was 'resisting.'
Or if rioting and looting happens concurrently with peaceful protesting, and Trumpists disagree with the protesters' speech, then the rationalization is that all of those peaceful protesters are actually rioters and looters and therefore terrorists, and deserve all the police brutality they get, even if not one of the peaceful protesters ever took part in rioting or looting. Don't you know that people are hiring the protesters, you ask without any proof. Or leaving weapons out, you cite as evidence for your rationalizing, while not providing any evidence of such. Or claim you've seen things, but provide no links to videos of these things.
Trumpists will apply any rationalization that is necessary to be able to use govt force to suppress any speech they disagree with, and will even rationalize that they are protecting freedom while doing so.
"Liberalism is a mental disorder", "liberalism is treason," "any speech critical of the President is sedition," and using lawful means to attempt to hold the President accountable to the rule of law is "attempting to overturn an election." Those are just a sampling of the very common narratives used by Trumpists to suppress speech they disagree with, all of which imply the threat of govt force.
And as there appears to be no check whatsoever in this rationalizing by Trumpists, and as the narratives excusing (and often encouraging) govt violence against their fellow Americans get repeated and amplified within their echo chambers, and that in fact this behavior is spurred on by Trump himself, as he tweets that his detractors are "human scum" and worse, it is perfectly reasonable for anyone that is even mildly critical of this administration to assume that this situation will continue to worsen to its logical conclusion.
 
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Atreus21

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Then you aren't paying attention. They at least paid lip service to religious institutions at that point, now they're gassing priests and churchgoers for Trump's fucking photo shoots.

Yeah, and liberals of the 80s and 90s at least paid lip service to the problems of blacks. Now they cheer while black-owned businesses are destroyed by rioters.

Individual incidents don't change the fundamental ideals.

You mean other than calling conservatives out on their current lunacy, and trying to make things better for all of our citizens?

Really. To focus on just one aspect, why were there no calls for gay marriage or transgender acceptance in the 80s or 90s? Were liberals then not focused on making their lives better?

Since Obama, the left has gone farther left than the right has right. I mean they're calling for the abolition of police. A freaking Vox writer had to apologize for pumping the brakes on the notion.
 
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