Apparently neither of you clowns made it to the end of my very first comment. You both just saw it as an attack, instead of informing him. The frustration was not directed at him, I didn't say HE was the one repeating this misinformation elsewhere, just that it had been happening on a regular basis here lately. Then he dug his heels in on dumb, and there you are to white knight him. GJ, moonie.
Wasn't this your first comment?"
"For the umpteenth time, across numerous forum threads...gender reassignment surgery does NOT happen until they are adults. Now you know. Don't be ignorant on the topic if you're going to discuss it. "
This clown, as the only one I can speak for, got to the end of it, even the rolleyes part. You then suggested he not participate in a thread if he were going to be ignorant of the topic while discussing it. Now as a person, myself, who wishes to lessen ignorance as I see it, I thought your statement had a flaw, namely that discussion is a very good way to lessen ignorance.
Osirus then remarked: "Discussion, yes. Proclaiming, no.", a comment which you 'Liked', suggesting to me that you agreed with me on that but really meant that what you saw Atari doing was more proclamation than discussion.
Then Brainonska commented additionally that: "Discussion only works if people are open minded enough to change their views. It seems that some just go from thread to thread continually parroting their ignorance, no matter how many times they get corrected." which you also 'Liked" further indicating what I implied above.
I then indicated a problem I saw with that because the same people making it and 'Liking' it are just as guilty of it as they claim others are, that I have repetitively suggested why people are unaffected by suggestions of where they themselves are ignorant, that they are unconsciously motivated not to know truth from rationalizations. People still want to blame the ignorant for their ignorance when in fact ignorance is universal, that the real truth destroys ego and people believe their ego is the most important thing they have. Wrong, it is a prison. Just the messenger here. We all go from thread to thread ignorant of who we really are, asleep to reality, our view points upside down and backwards.
And why? Pohemi: "Shove your misinformation that you state as fact, jackhole." Not good to denigrate who you are because it adds to the reasons we would not welcome truth, or the truth I see. It is a statement of self hate, that people guilty of truth denial are worthy of contempt when all that is is projection.
Pardon me while I try to inform you of what you don't see just as you tried to inform Atari. It's not that I didn't anticipate how you would react being informed you are a hypocrite or that like you, I would blame you for your ignorance. But the fact of the matter is that if I blame you for your ignorance I will do the same to myself. It would therefore be very stupid of me to blame you even if you can't see it. I am discussing what I see. What you do with it is up to you.
Atari makes some remarks in self defense and you reply:
"Your first comment sounded straight out of some rwnj blog trying to make out like 10 year olds are deciding to have gender change surgery. Then your first reply to brycejones looked as if you were calling doubt on what he truthfully stated.
Maybe I'm the only person who read it that way, but I'd be surprised."
These are assumptions you make. I have no problem with them. We bring to the present what we have experienced in the past. The only issue I have with this is the willingness we bring to the table any nastiness we believe others deserve as a result if we are right. I think we are inwardly self hating and looking for a place to dump it and that doing so is a sin, more harmful than it does good. Naturally the White Knight Moonbeam is going to ride to the rescue. And of course that includes you. Love you.