A universe from nothing

Ika

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holy shit that video is an hour long
it'll take years at the current youtube speed to buffer
 

xSauronx

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aflac
holy shit that video is an hour long
it'll take years at the current youtube speed to buffer

srs. ima let it load while i do some homework
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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this shit makes no sense. so nothing is something, but nothing is nothing only because we can't see it? *headasplodes*
 

DrPizza

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Wow, that was awesome! A little pompous on the anti-religion angle, (maybe even a little pompous in general) but an awesome lecture nonetheless.
 

Crono

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Wow, that was awesome! A little pompous on the anti-religion angle, (maybe even a little pompous in general) but an awesome lecture nonetheless.

I'll watch it, but I hate when ANYONE takes a pompous attitude to lecturing. All the best teachers and speakers are keen on emphasizing how little is known and what things they do know from evidence, not how they think they are better for believing in something someone else doesn't (regardless of whether it's true or not).
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Wow, that was awesome! A little pompous on the anti-religion angle, (maybe even a little pompous in general) but an awesome lecture nonetheless.

I'll watch it, but I hate when ANYONE takes a pompous attitude to lecturing. All the best teachers and speakers are keen on emphasizing how little is known and what things they do know from evidence, not how they think they are better for believing in something someone else doesn't (regardless of whether it's true or not).

He was pompous about RELIGION, not spirituality. One is useless, and the other is personal and has no effect on the growth of civilization. The attitude he has is just.
 

Crono

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Aug 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Wow, that was awesome! A little pompous on the anti-religion angle, (maybe even a little pompous in general) but an awesome lecture nonetheless.

I'll watch it, but I hate when ANYONE takes a pompous attitude to lecturing. All the best teachers and speakers are keen on emphasizing how little is known and what things they do know from evidence, not how they think they are better for believing in something someone else doesn't (regardless of whether it's true or not).

He was pompous about RELIGION, not spirituality. One is useless, and the other is personal and has no effect on the growth of civilization. The attitude he has is just.

A belief not worth sharing is not worth believing.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Wow, that was awesome! A little pompous on the anti-religion angle, (maybe even a little pompous in general) but an awesome lecture nonetheless.

I'll watch it, but I hate when ANYONE takes a pompous attitude to lecturing. All the best teachers and speakers are keen on emphasizing how little is known and what things they do know from evidence, not how they think they are better for believing in something someone else doesn't (regardless of whether it's true or not).

He was pompous about RELIGION, not spirituality. One is useless, and the other is personal and has no effect on the growth of civilization. The attitude he has is just.

A belief not worth sharing is not worth believing.

That's a wonderful quote, I like it. But it's irrelevant. Religion is not the sharing of beliefs, it's the push of dogma. It does not change and develop for us a better understanding of the cosmos through trial and error, theory and evidence, or peer reviewing. Religion, I'm afraid, is as if somebody 1000 years from now took the book Twilight seriously. Don't insult me, I don't fold in the face of no evidence.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Heh, and agenda disguised as a scientific lecture. Dawkins is such a dope

Good point. I never understood why a science lecture would ever need to be filled with derisive jabs at religion or any topic outside the immediate lecture.
 

Agentbolt

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I don't have time to watch the video, but is the Low Entropy idea? Where the universe was in a state of extremely high entropy, and suddenly a quantum fluctuation caused a state of extremely LOW entropy, causing planets, stars, organized life, and the like to spring into being? It was an interesting idea when I read about it, the most extreme viewpoint on it actually states that EVERYTHING, buildings, dogs, people, even people's memories, are nothing more than a sudden and extreme lowering of universal entropy that happened a few years, days, or even seconds ago.
 
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Incredible, will take a while to absorb all of it but it was very beautifully put. Absolutely captivating and I easily could have enjoyed another hour of that. :thumbsup:
 

xSauronx

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
I don't have time to watch the video, but is the Low Entropy idea? Where the universe was in a state of extremely high entropy, and suddenly a quantum fluctuation caused a state of extremely LOW entropy, causing planets, stars, organized life, and the like to spring into being? It was an interesting idea when I read about it, the most extreme viewpoint on it actually states that EVERYTHING, buildings, dogs, people, even people's memories, are nothing more than a sudden and extreme lowering of universal entropy that happened a few years, days, or even seconds ago.

no, it was about the universe having an energy balance of zero. its 6am so...im gonna stop there
 

timosyy

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Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Heh, and agenda disguised as a scientific lecture. Dawkins is such a dope

Good point. I never understood why a science lecture would ever need to be filled with derisive jabs at religion or any topic outside the immediate lecture.

This. I'm "religious" (that is, I align myself with one of the major belief systems), so while I found the science fascinating, the condescending and stereotype-fueled attacks on religion were annoying and detracted from the overall quality of the lecture.

What this boils down to, is that while the subject matter was enrapturing, it's not something I would feel comfortable linking to others, which is a damn shame. He talks about cosmic humility and the beauty of the unknown but he's sitting on a pretty high horse.
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Wow, that was awesome! A little pompous on the anti-religion angle, (maybe even a little pompous in general) but an awesome lecture nonetheless.

I'll watch it, but I hate when ANYONE takes a pompous attitude to lecturing. All the best teachers and speakers are keen on emphasizing how little is known and what things they do know from evidence, not how they think they are better for believing in something someone else doesn't (regardless of whether it's true or not).

He was pompous about RELIGION, not spirituality. One is useless, and the other is personal and has no effect on the growth of civilization. The attitude he has is just.

A belief not worth sharing is not worth believing.

That's a wonderful quote, I like it. But it's irrelevant. Religion is not the sharing of beliefs, it's the push of dogma. It does not change and develop for us a better understanding of the cosmos through trial and error, theory and evidence, or peer reviewing. Religion, I'm afraid, is as if somebody 1000 years from now took the book Twilight seriously. Don't insult me, I don't fold in the face of no evidence.

So your religion involves discounting other people's religions. Stop pushing your religion on us.
 
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