A Walmart in Cleveland is holding a food drive — for its own employees

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dawp

Lifer
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"associates" hahaha newspeak FTL

walmart has been refering to employees as associates since at least the 80s when I worked for them, back when sam was still alive and the company actually gave a damn.
 

CPA

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Surprise! We live in a fvcked up world!

Exactly, we live in a world where everyone expects 6 figure salaries and if companies can't provide them then they are nothing but greedy and evil.
 

rudeguy

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How is that funny you jackass?

These are people who are busting their ass to support their family, yet still need help. These aren't people sucking on the teet of the government, they are the workers that keep the country running.

You are an ignorant moron. Its people like you that ruin the country for people like these. Fuck you and die in a fire.
 
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This is a nice compliment to McDonald's McResources guiding their long-term employees to public assistance. It is in their business model to make sure its employees have all the things needed that they will not be providing as an employer.
 

Vdubchaos

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Major corps not paying enough money for their people to survive.

This is no news flash and Walmart is NOT the only one.

And yes most of us Taxpayers will pick up that tab FOR Walmart.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Looking at this chart:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_Canada

Walmart stacks up pretty good.

Canada ranges from $9.95 - $11.00 USD per hour minimum wage.

The highest I saw was Australia @ a Whopping $16.88 USD per hour.

The lowest was Sierra Leone @ a big old $00.03 per hour about $5.75 a month.

Which is exactly why American workers need to start voting their their self interests and push politicians to re-instate protectionist policies. Protectionism worked for workers.
 

nehalem256

Lifer
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Looking at this chart:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_by_country

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_Canada

Walmart stacks up pretty good.

Canada ranges from $9.95 - $11.00 USD per hour minimum wage.

The highest I saw was Australia @ a Whopping $16.88 USD per hour.

The lowest was Sierra Leone @ a big old $00.03 per hour about $5.75 a month.

I see no issue holding a food drive for employees by employees. Some people cannot manage money regardless of how much they are paid, Fact. Some employees may have had a stroke of bad luck ( house burned etc... ) we don't know.

http://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/27053

Living wage for 1 adult with 2 children in Twin Cities, MN: $26.09

So in even in Australia with a minimum wage more than twice that of America a single mom with 2 kids would not be earning a living wage...

I think its pretty clear why they have a holiday food drive.

EDIT:

Compare that with a living wage of $9.69 for a single adult. Wouldn't surprise me if many Walmart Associates did make that much.
 

Jimzz

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How is that funny you jackass?

These are people who are busting their ass to support their family, yet still need help. These aren't people sucking on the teet of the government, they are the workers that keep the country running.

You are an ignorant moron. Its people like you that ruin the country for people like these. Fuck you and die in a fire.


"The welfare programs Wal-Mart workers rely on include Medicaid, subsidized housing and SNAP..."

"A 2002 survey by the state of Georgia's subsidized healthcare system, PeachCare, found that Walmart was the largest private employer of parents of children enrolled in its program."

"Hundreds of Maine workers employed by Wal-Mart are enrolled in the state’s public assistance programs, including Medicaid, Food Stamps, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, according to data released by the Maine Department of Health and Human Services.
Wal-Mart tops the list both in terms of total number of employees receiving benefits—751—and what percentage of the company’s Maine workforce this represented."



You're right, Wal-Mart is the one dong the sucking by not paying a wage enough to live on so other tax payers have to subsidize the employees salary. So even if you do not shop at walmart you still pay towards its profits.
 

rudeguy

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"The welfare programs Wal-Mart workers rely on include Medicaid, subsidized housing and SNAP..."

"A 2002 survey by the state of Georgia's subsidized healthcare system, PeachCare, found that Walmart was the largest private employer of parents of children enrolled in its program."

"Hundreds of Maine workers employed by Wal-Mart are enrolled in the state’s public assistance programs, including Medicaid, Food Stamps, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, according to data released by the Maine Department of Health and Human Services.
Wal-Mart tops the list both in terms of total number of employees receiving benefits—751—and what percentage of the company’s Maine workforce this represented."



You're right, Wal-Mart is the one dong the sucking by not paying a wage enough to live on so other tax payers have to subsidize the employees salary. So even if you do not shop at walmart you still pay towards its profits.

so again...tell me what is funny about people trying to make a living?

You ignorant, self righteous, entitled, dick shit
 

bononos

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How sad. Poor Walmart 'associates' must be salivating everyday while looking at all the food stacked up on the aisles.
 

bononos

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so again...tell me what is funny about people trying to make a living?

You ignorant, self righteous, entitled, dick shit

He's not criticizing Walmart employees. He's talking about the corporation which pays its employees so little that the taxpayers have to top up their tiny salaries in the form of welfare.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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He's not criticizing Walmart employees. He's talking about the corporation which pays its employees so little that the taxpayers have to top up their tiny salaries in the form of welfare.

read the OP, he laughed at them
 

bas1c

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If your job is doable by 250 million of the 300 million people in this country, your wages will be extremely low.

This is a fact of life. Get over it.

This is true. However, WalMart abuses the system and affects the rest of us. They already get tons of subsidies when they open up a new store. They milk the welfare system to act as their "employee healthcare". Even if the WalMart continues to provide low wages...they should at least foot the bill for healthcare. Even with the ACA, they will find a way to cheat the system.
 

skimple

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Every time that I go into Walmart, I come out feeling that most of the people working there are overpaid.

Where else can you say - "I have no education, I have no skills, I'm not very good with people - please give me a job and pay me just because I show up"?
 

bononos

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read the OP, he laughed at them

He could be laughing at the absurd situation where such a successful corp in the land of capitalism cannot afford to pay its employees to stay off welfare rolls but can afford to pay its execs megabucks with plenty left over for the shareholders. Walmart is basically shafting the taxpayers to make up for the low wages it pays its employees.
 

skimple

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This is true. However, WalMart abuses the system and affects the rest of us. They already get tons of subsidies when they open up a new store. They milk the welfare system to act as their "employee healthcare". Even if the WalMart continues to provide low wages...they should at least foot the bill for healthcare. Even with the ACA, they will find a way to cheat the system.

Nonsense.

Most towns BEG Walmart to come and open a store. Why? Because it benefits the community.

Lower cost products for low income people
Job opportunities for people with low skills / no education
It attracts "satellite" businesses, including hotels for Walmart's suppliers, trainers, etc.

Walmart goes into communities that have no economic prospects, creates a micro-economy surrounding its store that generates jobs and tax revenue, and gets blasted because it doesn't pay enough.

Guess what - if Walmart wasn't there, most of those poor, low-paid employees would have no job and would be 100% dependent on social welfare programs.
 

rudeguy

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He could be laughing at the absurd situation where such a successful corp in the land of capitalism cannot afford to pay its employees to stay off welfare rolls but can afford to pay its execs megabucks with plenty left over for the shareholders. Walmart is basically shafting the taxpayers to make up for the low wages it pays its employees.

nice attempt to deflect but none of that is mentioned or even relevant.

OP is a moronic troll who is stealing oxygen from worthy humans. You are a commy bastard who is not much better.
 

Jimzz

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Nonsense.

Most towns BEG Walmart to come and open a store. Why? Because it benefits the community.

Lower cost products for low income people
Job opportunities for people with low skills / no education
It attracts "satellite" businesses, including hotels for Walmart's suppliers, trainers, etc.

Walmart goes into communities that have no economic prospects, creates a micro-economy surrounding its store that generates jobs and tax revenue, and gets blasted because it doesn't pay enough.

Guess what - if Walmart wasn't there, most of those poor, low-paid employees would have no job and would be 100% dependent on social welfare programs.


[Citation Needed]


http://www.denverpost.com/ci_21736633/walmart-pulls-out-9th-and-colorado-redevelopment-project

http://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/gregory-bresiger/wal-marts-not-coming-to-town/

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/07/washington-dc-won-its-fight-with-walmart.html
 

bas1c

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Nonsense.

Most towns BEG Walmart to come and open a store. Why? Because it benefits the community.

Lower cost products for low income people
Job opportunities for people with low skills / no education
It attracts "satellite" businesses, including hotels for Walmart's suppliers, trainers, etc.

Walmart goes into communities that have no economic prospects, creates a micro-economy surrounding its store that generates jobs and tax revenue, and gets blasted because it doesn't pay enough.

Guess what - if Walmart wasn't there, most of those poor, low-paid employees would have no job and would be 100% dependent on social welfare programs.

Just because the politicians beg for it does not mean that the people really want it. Again, even if they were to beg for a WalMart, WalMart ends up getting hundreds of million dollars in subsidies to build their stores. Why should any one company get that kind of financial advantage?

I'd rather have those would-be employees be 100% dependent on welfare rather than have them still dependent on welfare, deal with the impacts of WalMart to small businesses, and dishing out money for them to build their stores for free.
 
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rudeguy

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Just because the politicians beg for it does not mean that the people really want it. Again, even if they were to beg for a WalMart, WalMart ends up getting hundreds of million dollars in subsidies to build their stores. Why should any one company get that kind of financial advantage?

I'd rather have those would-be employees be 100% dependent on welfare rather than have them still dependent on welfare, deal with the impacts of WalMart to small businesses, and dishing out money for them to build their stores for free.

Its easy to spot the libtards. They want everyone on welfare and all big businesses to close.

Commy bastards.
 

bononos

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nice attempt to deflect but none of that is mentioned or even relevant.

OP is a moronic troll who is stealing oxygen from worthy humans. You are a commy bastard who is not much better.

Deflect? Not mentioned? He had a decent length post about the welfare employee situation at Walmart. You're just name calling because you are sounding dumber by the minute.
 

bononos

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Its easy to spot the libtards. They want everyone on welfare and all big businesses to close.

Commy bastards.

What an idiotic post. Walmart is putting its employees on welfare rolls. Walmart is behaving like a commie by using govt welfare to pay its employees.
 

poofyhairguy

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He's not criticizing Walmart employees. He's talking about the corporation which pays its employees so little that the taxpayers have to top up their tiny salaries in the form of welfare.

Why is it Wal-Mart's responsibility to provide a "living wage" to its employees? They pay what the job is worth.

If you force Wal-Mart/McDonalds to subsidize the 20-30% of the American population that in uncompetitive in the global labor market then you are basically enacting a very regressive tax on the poorest in the America. If they were forced to pay a living wage by law, Wal-Mart (and all its competitors) prices would rise which would affect their primary client base (poor people). The overall result- the poor Wal-Mart employees are worse off, that is until Wal-Mart replaces them all with robots to avoid paying that subsidized wage in which case they will be laid off.

At least with subsidizing these people via foodstamps and welfare some of that subsidy can come from taxing the richest 5% of American who won't set a foot in Wal-Mart but will lose everything if the 20-30% of uncompetitive Americans violently revolt and trash the stock market with domestic instability and a loss of consumer confidence.

The problem isn't Wal-Mart or McDonalds, nor is the answer turning all stores into higher-end retailers like Costco. The problem is that America refuses to look in the mirror and realize the problem with the winners in capitalism we love to celebrate is that means there are plenty of losers, and we don't have a real plan to deal with the losers who previously could make $25 an hour at a GM plant because the rest of the world was too ruined to make cars.
 
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nehalem256

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Why is it Wal-Mart's responsibility to provide a "living wage" to its employees? They pay what the job is worth.

And they pretty much do provide a "living wage" to its employees. Per actual research the "living wage" for a single adult in Minneapolis, MN is $9.69/hr. I bet a lot of associates are making at least this much.

The problem is that many of the people working at walmart have a couple of bastard kids to support. Which raises the "living wage" to $26/hr for their family. Even if the minimum was TRIPLED they still wouldn't be making a living wage.

The problem isn't that Walmart isn't paying a "living wage". The problem is people are making lifestyle choices that are inconsistent with reality.
 
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