A Young Marine (the real McCoy) Speaks Out

[dahunan]

Damn BMW540I6speed .. that is so scarily factual as to how they behave.. How will the world ever change if they are the best we can elect

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: dahunan
What is wrong with his quotes?

Was he lying? Who cares if America kills 70,000 - 100,000 Iraqis if we just label it war then all is good.. right?

Why can't we use our power to spread light instead of darkness?

Anyone who wasn't earning profits from the defense industry would tell you that Iraq would turn into a bloodbath like it is today.. yet you think we are the bringers of light and peace and all that is good with the world

Ok, so tell me what we can do to spread this light?

It's September 12, 2001. How would President dahunan do to spread light in the world and prevent another terror attack?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: dahunan
What is wrong with his quotes?

Was he lying? Who cares if America kills 70,000 - 100,000 Iraqis if we just label it war then all is good.. right?

Why can't we use our power to spread light instead of darkness?

Anyone who wasn't earning profits from the defense industry would tell you that Iraq would turn into a bloodbath like it is today.. yet you think we are the bringers of light and peace and all that is good with the world

Ok, so tell me what we can do to spread this light?

It's September 12, 2001. How would President dahunan do to spread light in the world and prevent another terror attack?

first let him answer this: wtf is "light," and how does one "spread" it?!

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Damn BMW540I6speed .. that is so scarily factual as to how they behave.. How will the world ever change if they are the best we can elect

Well, it works both ways on both sides too. The world will change when we learn to respect the individual instead of demanding that the individual conform to the collective at all costs. It's the collective that demands that one purposefully be wrong about something in order to prove oneself, and it's the collective that always seeks to be at war with other collectives because it places no value upon the individuals that comprise it.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: dahunan
What is wrong with his quotes?

Was he lying? Who cares if America kills 70,000 - 100,000 Iraqis if we just label it war then all is good.. right?

Why can't we use our power to spread light instead of darkness?

Anyone who wasn't earning profits from the defense industry would tell you that Iraq would turn into a bloodbath like it is today.. yet you think we are the bringers of light and peace and all that is good with the world

Ok, so tell me what we can do to spread this light?

It's September 12, 2001. How would President dahunan do to spread light in the world and prevent another terror attack?

Showck and Awe .. homey.. that is the only way to help the world.. PLUS.. I would definitely attack the country that had nothing to do with September 11, 2001

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: dahunan
What is wrong with his quotes?

Was he lying? Who cares if America kills 70,000 - 100,000 Iraqis if we just label it war then all is good.. right?

Why can't we use our power to spread light instead of darkness?

Anyone who wasn't earning profits from the defense industry would tell you that Iraq would turn into a bloodbath like it is today.. yet you think we are the bringers of light and peace and all that is good with the world

Ok, so tell me what we can do to spread this light?

It's September 12, 2001. How would President dahunan do to spread light in the world and prevent another terror attack?

first let him answer this: wtf is "light," and how does one "spread" it?!

BTW, I would work as hard as I could to kill, kill, kill, kill and kill some more.. and especially those who never attacked us.. that is where I would start

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: dahunan
What is wrong with his quotes?

Was he lying? Who cares if America kills 70,000 - 100,000 Iraqis if we just label it war then all is good.. right?
Why can't we use our power to spread light instead of darkness?

Anyone who wasn't earning profits from the defense industry would tell you that Iraq would turn into a bloodbath like it is today.. yet you think we are the bringers of light and peace and all that is good with the world

Ok, so tell me what we can do to spread this light?

It's September 12, 2001. How would President dahunan do to spread light in the world and prevent another terror attack?

Showck and Awe .. homey.. that is the only way to help the world.. PLUS.. I would definitely attack the country that had nothing to do with September 11, 2001

In otherwords you don't have a working solution? You just don't like the one that we tried?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: dahunan
What is wrong with his quotes?

Was he lying? Who cares if America kills 70,000 - 100,000 Iraqis if we just label it war then all is good.. right?
Why can't we use our power to spread light instead of darkness?

Anyone who wasn't earning profits from the defense industry would tell you that Iraq would turn into a bloodbath like it is today.. yet you think we are the bringers of light and peace and all that is good with the world

Ok, so tell me what we can do to spread this light?

It's September 12, 2001. How would President dahunan do to spread light in the world and prevent another terror attack?

Showck and Awe .. homey.. that is the only way to help the world.. PLUS.. I would definitely attack the country that had nothing to do with September 11, 2001

In otherwords you don't have a working solution? You just don't like the one that we tried?

Why should I waste my time explaining it to you.. I am being honest .. not trying to cop out.. you and palehorse both support anything this country does militarily..

Neither of you see anything wrong with choosing to go to Iraq ...

I will not be upset if you ignore every post from me.. I barely read anything you say because of the horrible bias in all of your replies - it just is not worth it to reply to you.. you are like some bot that ignores replies that expose your BS

Just like my post on the support we provided to Saddam and the Baathists and how we helped put him in power and kept him in power .. and at the same time we were arming him we also armed the Iranians.. you didn't care when I exposed your bullshit about us arming him to stop the Iranians.. you just went on and on in your fantasy world..

 

[WHAMPOM]

Palehorse lives in the basement of his parents house, Poofjohn in the attic. Either that or they both suffer from severe cases of prolonged adolescence.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Palehorse lives in the basement of his parents house, Poofjohn in the attic. Either that or they both suffer from severe cases of prolonged adolescence.

lol.. I WISH! having multiple mortgages sucks!

once again, you revert to attacking the messenger when you don't like the message... +1 for originality!

ps - i wonder why it is that none of you ever get suspended for your personal attacks here... odd that!

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Palehorse lives in the basement of his parents house, Poofjohn in the attic. Either that or they both suffer from severe cases of prolonged adolescence.

lol.. I WISH! having multiple mortgages sucks!

once again, you revert to attacking the messenger when you don't like the message... +1 for originality!

ps - i wonder why it is that none of you ever get suspended for your personal attacks here... odd that!

To be fair, almost everyone on here (including you) has been guilty of personal attacks at one time or another...and hardly ANYONE gets suspended for it.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
To be fair, almost everyone on here (including you) has been guilty of personal attacks at one time or another...and hardly ANYONE gets suspended for it.

fair?! lol... I've been suspended twice. Once for calling someone here "a clown." The second time occurred when I joked about dropping leaflets on NW Pakistan containing a map leading the extremists to San Francisco. That was following the entire ROTC debacle a few months ago. Both instances pale in comparison to the personal insults aimed at right-leaning posters here every day.

I digress... back on topic: The "letter" in the OP is a joke hailed by most of the left as the gospel truth. sad that.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Rainsford
To be fair, almost everyone on here (including you) has been guilty of personal attacks at one time or another...and hardly ANYONE gets suspended for it.

fair?! lol... I've been suspended twice. Once for calling someone here "a clown." The second time occurred when I joked about dropping leaflets on NW Pakistan containing a map leading the extremists to San Francisco. That was following the entire ROTC debacle a few months ago. Both instances pale in comparison to the personal insults aimed at right-leaning posters here every day.

I digress... back on topic: The "letter" in the OP is a joke hailed by most of the left as the gospel truth. sad that.

And so was PJ's anonymous letter from over a year ago. A joke. And yet you tripped all over yourself to defend it. The hypocrisy is strong in you too.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Rainsford
To be fair, almost everyone on here (including you) has been guilty of personal attacks at one time or another...and hardly ANYONE gets suspended for it.

fair?! lol... I've been suspended twice. Once for calling someone here "a clown." The second time occurred when I joked about dropping leaflets on NW Pakistan containing a map leading the extremists to San Francisco. That was following the entire ROTC debacle a few months ago. Both instances pale in comparison to the personal insults aimed at right-leaning posters here every day.

I digress... back on topic: The "letter" in the OP is a joke hailed by most of the left as the gospel truth. sad that.

And so was PJ's anonymous letter from over a year ago. A joke. And yet you tripped all over yourself to defend it. The hypocrisy is strong in you too.

I still contend that PJ's posted letter, while old and therefore fairly useless, was still written by a real Marine and Iraqi Veteran; while this one was almost certainly written by a civilian at Moveon.org.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I still contend that PJ's posted letter, while old and therefore fairly useless, was still written by a real Marine and Iraqi Veteran; while this one was almost certainly written by a civilian at Moveon.org.

Hey now, at least my letter contained some facts about what is going on over there, even if they are out dated. This letter has NOT ONE THING in it that shows the writer has ever been to Iraq.

 

[DealMonkey]

See? You're still doing it. You're falling all over yourselves to defend an anonymous letter from last year that you have no way of verifying while simultaneously trying to tear down this one. Which incidentally, you have no way of proving false. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but in the end, you have no facts to back up either of your assertions.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
See? You're still doing it. You're falling all over yourselves to defend an anonymous letter from last year that you have no way of verifying while simultaneously trying to tear down this one. Which incidentally, you have no way of proving false. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but in the end, you have no facts to back up either of your assertions.

I am merely giving my opinion of the possible origin of each letter based on their content and tone. This letter has no content beyond the propaganda, while the other letter discusses weapons and tactics from the perspective of someone who certainly sounds like a Vet.

Then again, I really don't give a sh*t about either letter, or their authenticity. I already know what I need to know about the war in Iraq, past and present.

 

[WHAMPOM]

If telling the truth is construed as a personal attack, then I am guilty. Luckily I didn't post the video of you doing your tighty-whitey chicken dance. Jog your memory "trigger".

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Rainsford
To be fair, almost everyone on here (including you) has been guilty of personal attacks at one time or another...and hardly ANYONE gets suspended for it.

fair?! lol... I've been suspended twice. Once for calling someone here "a clown." The second time occurred when I joked about dropping leaflets on NW Pakistan containing a map leading the extremists to San Francisco. That was following the entire ROTC debacle a few months ago. Both instances pale in comparison to the personal insults aimed at right-leaning posters here every day.

I digress... back on topic: The "letter" in the OP is a joke hailed by most of the left as the gospel truth. sad that.

Well the "clown" comment certainly doesn't seem as bad as many made here, but "joking" about helping terrorists attack a city because you think it's too liberal isn't really funny. I somehow don't think you'd find it quite as amusing if I suggested we point the terrorists towards our military bases. Would I get suspended for doing so? Maybe, but if I didn't, I should have been...that kind of crap isn't funny and doesn't belong here.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
In the spirit of the thread I posted that was also written by a Marine, I think this is fake propaganda.

I would be emparssed to quote something from this guys web site.

Next time get a real source.

Are you going to post one of his articles agaist World War 2 or Lincoln next?

I am embarrased by many of the posters on here that proclaim to be Professors.

Very scary.

There's old Dave again.... never question propaganda when it comes from the left :laugh:

And here's one of ProfJohn's lapdogs, lapping up his mindless drivel. You'd sure make good cannon fodder.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Has anyone comfirmed yet whether the guy who wrote this letter is real or not?

Does anyone care?

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
In the spirit of the thread I posted that was also written by a Marine, I think this is fake propaganda.

I would be emparssed to quote something from this guys web site.

Next time get a real source.

Are you going to post one of his articles agaist World War 2 or Lincoln next?

I am embarrased by many of the posters on here that proclaim to be Professors.

Very scary.

There's old Dave again.... never question propaganda when it comes from the left :laugh:

And here's one of ProfJohn's lapdogs, lapping up his mindless drivel. You'd sure make good cannon fodder.

Cannon fodder rides in trucks... I jump out of planes.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
See? You're still doing it. You're falling all over yourselves to defend an anonymous letter from last year that you have no way of verifying while simultaneously trying to tear down this one. Which incidentally, you have no way of proving false. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but in the end, you have no facts to back up either of your assertions.

I am merely giving my opinion of the possible origin of each letter based on their content and tone. This letter has no content beyond the propaganda, while the other letter discusses weapons and tactics from the perspective of someone who certainly sounds like a Vet.

Then again, I really don't give a sh*t about either letter, or their authenticity. I already know what I need to know about the war in Iraq, past and present.

Yeah me too: SNAFU/FUBAR.

Perhaps in the future, when this sort of obvious propaganda piece are posted, we can all quietly ignore them instead of working so hard to build them up/tear them down depending on the partisan angle?

Just a thought...

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah me too: SNAFU/FUBAR.

Perhaps in the future, when this sort of obvious propaganda piece are posted, we can all quietly ignore them instead of working so hard to build them up/tear them down depending on the partisan angle?

Just a thought...

I agree with you.
I think the reason this one became such a mess is because it is so inflammatory in what it says and the accusations it makes:
"patriotic, nationalistic and fascist crap."
"I didn't join the military to be part of an Orwellian ("1984") war machine"

It is not that this is just another anti-war letter; it is the way the letter is written that is offensive to many people.
Which is why this thread has 97 posts, and the pro war one I posted had 65 posts and died a peaceful death.

 

[my sons father]

:thumbsup: to the OP
The Iraq war is nothing but BS. Bushco is swimming in the money they made off of it, and American families are swimming in the blood of their loved ones. I'll dance the day Bush swings from a gallows!