a10-5800k+hd7770?

[Reid Hershel]

my friend wants to build a new low end computer and i was wondering if a10 would be a much better choice instead of i3 3220?hes going for a hd7770 gpu but is it possible to hybrid crossfire that thing with a10?will that give him any advantage over the i3?i already look at some reviews and it seems i3 and a discrete gpu is the way to go.thanks in advance.

 

[NTMBK]

my friend wants to build a new low end computer and i was wondering if a10 would be a much better choice instead of i3 3220?hes going for a hd7770 gpu but is it possible to hybrid crossfire that thing with a10?will that give him any advantage over the i3?i already look at some reviews and it seems i3 and a discrete gpu is the way to go.thanks in advance.

Sadly the A10 won't do Crossfire with the HD7770.

You might want to look at an Athlon II X4 750K instead; it's based on the same chip as the A10, but with the graphics part disabled and a lower price tag. Worth looking at if your friend is interested in overclocking (as the i3-3220 won't overclock).

 

[frozentundra123456]

my friend wants to build a new low end computer and i was wondering if a10 would be a much better choice instead of i3 3220?hes going for a hd7770 gpu but is it possible to hybrid crossfire that thing with a10?will that give him any advantage over the i3?i already look at some reviews and it seems i3 and a discrete gpu is the way to go.thanks in advance.

I assume he wants to do some gaming. It would be helpful to know more about what he wants to use the computer for. Personally, I don't see much point in using an A10 and disabling the best part of the chip by adding a discrete gpu. I would go with the i3. With such a low end card even a cheaper Pentium might suffice.

 

[AtenRa]

Athlon II X4 750K is fine but i dont believe you will find it yet.

Better buy the A8-5600K if you want to stick with FM2, same 4 core CPU as 5800K

But i would choose the FX6300 with a 970 chipset motherboard like the ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 and OC to 4.2GHz with Default Cooler and Voltage.

It will eat Core i3 for breakfast

 

[frozentundra123456]

Athlon II X4 750K is fine but i dont believe you will find it yet.

Better buy the A8-5600K if you want to stick with FM2, same 4 core CPU as 5800K

But i would choose the FX6300 with a 970 chipset motherboard like the ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 and OC to 4.2GHz with Default Cooler and Voltage.

It will eat Core i3 for breakfast

An overstatement for sure. FX 6300 will win heavily multithreaded productivity apps while being slower in lightly threaded ones. Unfortunately anand's bench doesnt list games for these 2 processors, but the i3 will win some/ lose some I would predict. The FX is a viable alternative, but hardly the clear winner unless you are looking at the specific heavily multi-threaded apps it is best at, which I dont think is the purpose of the OP.

It will also use a lot more power, especially if you overclock.

 

[Eureka]

Would a FX-4100 work? Microcenter combo deal with a motherboard is $80 right now, if he's near one.

 

[NTMBK]

Would a FX-4100 work? Microcenter combo deal with a motherboard is $80 right now, if he's near one.

It'd need some hefty overclocking, given that it's Bulldozer not Piledriver and hence has lower IPC. And I doubt the mobo in an $80 bundle will be a good overclocker.

 

[Mallibu]

It will eat Core i3 for breakfast

Removing this man's bias from the words, we get the following data:

"Get the 6-core FX, overclock it with a custom cooler and deal with risks involved, buy a custom cooler, consume almost twice the power...
..and still be slower in games than the 2 cores of i3 2320."

Sad, but true

 

[laputan machine]

An i3 or a 6300 will be a much better choice than trinity if you're going to add a discrete gpu.

 

[NTMBK]

Removing this man's bias from the words, we get the following data:

"Get the 6-core FX, overclock it with a custom cooler and deal with risks involved, buy a custom cooler, consume almost twice the power...
..and still be slower in games than the 2 cores of i3 2320."

Sad, but true

Because your post was so bias free.

Piledriver will overclock to ~5GHz if you really push it; going for 4.2GHz as AtenRa suggested isn't really that much of a stretch, and shouldn't need a custom cooler. Given that the FX-6300 already matches or beats the i3-3220 at stock speeds, he's really not exaggerating much.

 

[Reid Hershel]

thanks for all your input guys,kinda sad hybrid crossfire wont happen.anyways ill recommend that fx6300 instead of i3 for my friend im not sure if its available though.thanks again for the replies!

 

[JerYnkFan]

Would a FX-4100 work? Microcenter combo deal with a motherboard is $80 right now, if he's near one.

I picked up this deal with the MSI board and got the a HD7770 from Newegg on BF for my second PC and it overclocks to 4.2 on OC Genie on stock. I really only play MMOs (Age of Conan/Rift/EQ2). It runs everything cranked without a problem. I also have 12GB DDR3 with SSDs so that probably helps. Not sure how it would fair in games like Far Cry 3 or AC3.

 

[Mallibu]

Given that we're talking about games, since the op is asking about hybrid CF etc. the phrase "FX-6300 eats i3 2320 for breakfast" is biased hyperbole, since AMD is slower in almost every game.

And if techreports graphs mean anything then, if we combine the above graphs with the test they did 2-3 months ago with Intel & AMD cpus, the AMD cpu's had almost three to four times more stuttering in most of the games they tested.

 

[Yuriman]

Given that we're talking about games, since the op is asking about hybrid CF etc. the phrase "FX-6300 eats i3 2320 for breakfast" is biased hyperbole, since AMD is slower in almost every game.

And if techreports graphs mean anything then, if we combine the above graphs with the test they did 2-3 months ago with Intel & AMD cpus, the AMD cpu's had almost three to four times more stuttering in most of the games they tested.

Stock vs stock there's room for debate but to me the FX-6300 is clearly a better value because it isn't locked.

 

[laputan machine]

nvm

 

[Mallibu]

Stock vs stock there's room for debate but to me the FX-6300 is clearly a better value because it isn't linked.

Given that I play games less and less, I think i'd get the FX 6300 also instead of the i3. But if we want to be honest, "6 cores that consume twice the power and are slower than i3 at games" hardly is considered "eating it for breakfast". I just can't stand the biased marketing from AMD zealot(s).

 

[AtenRa]

Removing this man's bias from the words, we get the following data:

"Get the 6-core FX, overclock it with a custom cooler and deal with risks involved, buy a custom cooler, consume almost twice the power...
..and still be slower in games than the 2 cores of i3 2320."

Sad, but true

Given that I play games less and less, I think i'd get the FX 6300 also instead of the i3. But if we want to be honest, "6 cores that consume twice the power and are slower than i3 at games" hardly is considered "eating it for breakfast". I just can't stand the biased marketing from AMD zealot(s).

5800K

But i would choose the FX6300 with a 970 chipset motherboard like the ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 and OC to 4.2GHz with Default Cooler and Voltage.

It will eat Core i3 for breakfast

I will say it again,

FX 6300 @ 4.2GHz will eat Core i3 for breakfast. In multithreaded apps its not even fanny to compere the two.

 

[Mallibu]

I will say it again,

FX 6300 @ 4.2GHz will eat Core i3 for breakfast. In multithreaded apps its not even fanny to compere the two.

You can say it and wish it as much as you like, it ain't gonna make it true.

I3 wins games.
FX 6300 wins MT apps but consumes twice the power.

So, according to someone's needs, each CPU eats the other for breakfast. :awe:

 

[Durvelle27]

Given that we're talking about games, since the op is asking about hybrid CF etc. the phrase "FX-6300 eats i3 2320 for breakfast" is biased hyperbole, since AMD is slower in almost every game.

And if techreports graphs mean anything then, if we combine the above graphs with the test they did 2-3 months ago with Intel & AMD cpus, the AMD cpu's had almost three to four times more stuttering in most of the games they tested.

Smart idea to link benchmarks using the Bulldozer chips and not Piledriver

 

[AtenRa]

I3 wins games.

It is the third time you say it but even at default 3.5GHz the FX6300 is faster. I know you dont like to hear it but at 4.2GHz the FX6300 is the faster CPU even in games.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5

 

[Mallibu]

It is the third time you say it but even at default 3.5GHz the FX6300 is faster. I know you dont like to hear it but at 4.2GHz the FX6300 is the faster CPU even in games.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5

Oh god, not this cherrypicking again D:.
The i3 is better in 80-90% of games. Deal with it. You can link the rest 10% all day long, like you usually do in every thread, but you can't expect to take this seriously.
(Btw weren't you crying all those months about benchmarks that used 1680x1050 resolution? )

 

[Kristijonas]

Why is Pentium G2120 at the bottom? Isn't it supposed to be on the same level as i3 2100 ?

 

[NTMBK]

Oh god, not this cherrypicking again D:.
The i3 is better in 80-90% of games. Deal with it. You can link the rest 10% all day long, like you usually do in every thread, but you can't expect to take this seriously.
(Btw weren't you crying all those months about benchmarks that used 1680x1050 resolution? )

You're complaining about cherry picking? You're the one who posted benchmarks for Bulldozer instead of Piledriver!

Why is Pentium G2120 at the bottom? Isn't it supposed to be on the same level as i3 2100 ?

It's due to Techreport's testing methodology- they're actually pretty good at picking up on performance characteristics other people miss. They don't just look at average overall FPS, they also look at how long the worst frame takes to render. This is a good indication of how "jerky" the performance will be, and whether there will be noticeable stuttering.

 

[AtenRa]

Oh god, not this cherrypicking again D:.
The i3 is better in 80-90% of games. Deal with it. You can link the rest 10% all day long, like you usually do in every thread, but you can't expect to take this seriously.
(Btw weren't you crying all those months about benchmarks that used 1680x1050 resolution? )

Right,

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...15-amd-vishera-fx-6300-fx-4300-review-12.html

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/331...enough-fx-8350-vs-i5-3550--fx-6300-vs-i3-3220

All those are at DEFAULT 3.5GHz., your so loved Core i3 have no chance against the FX6300 @ 4.2GHz but im sure you will continue to spread your FUD against the FX6300 no matter what.

 

[Mallibu]

In all of the above tests the 2120 scores better than the i3 3220. Seems legit:thumbsup: .

You can search the internet for more results and post 50 of them here. FX is still slower in majority of games in the majority of the reviews. Deal with it.