A64 3000+ vs Barton@2.43ghz benchmarks. *UPDATE: AN50R 2.4ghz+ benchies added- more comin'*

[DAPUNISHER]

I have cheapo Apacer 3200DDR with Samsung TCC4 chips and it looks like these slightly slower than optimal timings don't effect scores by much at all based on the Tom's article so I won't be moving to faster ram.

*All test run on SOYO K8USA Dragon Ultra Black Label with AMD 8151/ALI M1563.***Shuttle AN50R used for testing 2.4ghz+ with latest tests in bold***


Barton@2.43ghz tests run using ram@422DDR 3-3-3-7
A64 3000+@2.1ghz tests run using ram@420DDR 2.5-3-3-7
A64 3000+@2.15ghz tests run using ram@430DDR 2.5-3-3-7
A64 3000+@2.2ghz test run using ram@440DDR 2.5-3-3-7
A64 3000+@2.3ghz tests run using ram@384DDR 2.5-3-3-6
*All test run using 5800U@525/1080 DET. 53.03* 1024x768x32


PCMark2002


Barton@2.43ghz

CPU Score 7481

Memory Score 6791

HDD Score 1080


A64@2.1ghz

CPU Score 6738

Memory Score 8214

HDD Score 1610


A64@2.15ghz

CPU score 6959

Memory score 8730

HDD score 1580


A64@2.2ghz

CPU score 7119

Memory score 8942

HDD score 1556


A64@2.25ghz

CPU score 7261

Memory score 8703

HDD score 1448


A64@2.3ghz

CPU score 7419

memory score 8129

HDD score 1530


A64@2.4ghz 6:5 3-4-4-7 2.5xLTD

CPU score 7707

Memory score 8090

HDD score 848



3DMark 2003 5800U@525/1080 DET. 53.03

Barton@2.43ghz 6113

A64@2.1ghz 6195


A64@2.15ghz 6178


A64@2.2ghz 6177


A64@2.3ghz 6133


CPU score

Barton@2.43ghz 788


A64@2.1ghz 856


A64@2.15ghz 828


A64@2.2ghz 885


A64@2.3ghz 880



3DMark 2001se


Barton@2.43ghz 17393


A64@2.1ghz 18420


A64@2.15ghz 18636


A64@2.2ghz 18530


A64@2.3ghz 18800


A64@2.4ghz 6:5 3-4-4-7 2.5xLTD 18670



AquaMark 3


Barton@2.43ghz 50.72 FPS


A64@2.1ghz 46.92 FPS


A64@2.15ghz 53.32 FPS


A64@2.2ghz 50.08 FPS


A64@2.3GHZ 50.18 FPS


CPU Score

Barton@2.43ghz 8163


A64@2.1ghz 9359


A64 @2.15ghz 9582


A64@2.2ghz 9764


A64@2.3ghz 9438


GFX Score

Barton@2.43ghz 7356


A64@2.1ghz 6261


A64@2.15ghz 7389


A64@2.2ghz 6735


A64@2.3ghz 6834


SuperPi 1M


Barton@2.43ghz 43s


A64@2.1ghz 43s


A64@2.15ghz 42s


A64@2.3ghz 42s


A64@2.42ghz 1:1 3-4-4-9 2.5xLTD 39s


SuperPi 2m


A64@2.2ghz 1min 37sec


A64@2.42ghz 1:1 3-4-4-9 2.5xLTD 1min 31sec


SETIBench WU


Barton@2.43ghz *not tested*


A64@2.15ghz 2hrs 5min 17sec


A64@2.3ghz 2hrs 4min 55sec


POV 3.5 optimized engine for Athlon XP *does recognize and utilize K8 features*


Barton@2.43ghz 24min 57sec


A64@2.3ghz 25min 45sec


A64@2.15ghz 27min 11sec


UT2K3 DEMO benchmark


Barton@2.43ghz flyby 224 BotMatch 79


A64@2.15ghz flyby 276 BotMatch 101


A64@2.3ghz flyby 284 BotMatch 105


A64@2.48ghz 6:5 3-4-4-7 2.5xLTD flyby 295 BotMatch 111


ScienceMark Primordia Bench

A64@2.2ghz 389.26 sec

A64@2.4ghz 1:1 3-4-4-9 2.5xLTD 365 sec

 

[Corporate Thug]

AWESOME, thanx

 

[MetroRider]

nice scores and good work for the testing done!

looks like your Barton @ 2.43 GHz sure it giving the A64 a run for its money in most benchmarks, hehe. of course, the UT demo score is nice to see as well (favoring the A64)

 

[mechBgon]

Nice work! Interesting to see that the UT2003 Demo benchies favor the A64 more strongly than the rest of the application benchies seem to. Do you have some new RAM on your agenda soon? Can't wait for Episode 2: The Clawhammer Strikes Back

 

[Markfw]

Nice work, but you are crippling the a64 with cas2.5

 

[DAPUNISHER]

 

[Markfw]

While you are spending money, please do it right and get some PC3500 CAS2 (Hyperx comes to mind)

 

[Technonut]

Nice work... Was the UT2003 benchmark run @ 800x600? What about AquaMark?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

All test were run@1024x768 which is my LCD's native res, I better add that to the first post.

EDIT: Here's the 3000+ itself pic

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Here's a few compare URLs

3DMock '03

3DMock '01

PCMock 'o2

AquaMock

 

[Peter D]

Is 2.3 the highest you were able to OC with the Soyo board?

Thanks for all the scores by the way

 

[Richdog]

Good work mate. Interesting to see how with the higher latencies the score for the A64 is within the margin of err for some benchmarks even at a difference of 200Mhz (2.1-2.3Ghz).

However, your benchmark results for the Barton clearly show that upgrading at the moment if you have a highly overclockable T-Bred (like me) or Barton (like you) would be a waste of time and money. I'll be waiting a year or over until the process matures and some REALLY killer chips start to appear.

Also with my preference for gaming over anything else, upgrading the graphics card over my CPU will be more of a priority for quite a while to come.

Excellent benchmarks though!:beer:

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Thanks guys Something to consider with these benchmarks is that some are vid card limited more so than CPU from the scores I've gotten, like 3Dmark '03 and AquaMark for instance. Also, some of the Benchmarks are more clockspeed, cache, and latency dependent, like SETIbench and POVRAY. The 1 good game test and CPU effecting test I ran were UT2k3 and 3Dmark '01 and they showed the best gains. Benchmarks like PCmark *and Sandra which I didn't waste any energy on* don't do the A64 CPU performance justice IMHO, but they do show how well the memory and HDD performance improved over my dual channel nF2 system, and the overall system performance is very noticable to me. Decompressing files on the HDD such as zip or self-extractors, and actually playing a game Like Halo@1024x768 with everything on high and specular on, immediately impressed me. Sometimes in big fights frame rates would get boderline with a little chop but wih this setup it's very smooth and more enjoyable game play.

As to the Soyo, it'll run this 3000+@2.3ghz with the divder for ram just fine, give it just 1mhz more and it's time to clear the CMOS. No AGP/PCI lock on this board from all indications. Also, at 2.3ghz I have to raise the HT voltgae from the default 1.2v to 1.4v, I need to look around to see if anyone has a clockgen or something for this board. I'm using the stock cooler so 2.3ghz is plenty till I get better cooling.

 

[hytek369]

nice summary

 

[DAPUNISHER]

DVDShrink back up of Gladiator A64@2.2ghz 19min 20sec.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

added a venus 12 and dropped temps 6c on low over stock cooler :heart:

 

[Jhatfie]

DAPUNISHER,

How do you like the Soyo K8USA? They look to be a tad expensive, but I am not to excited with the current Via or Nforce3 boards out....at least until the Nforce3 250 surfaces. I've been eyeballing getting a Athlon64 system, but only the lack of good motherboard choices are holding me back right now.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Jhatfie
DAPUNISHER,

How do you like the Soyo K8USA? They look to be a tad expensive, but I am not to excited with the current Via or Nforce3 boards out....at least until the Nforce3 250 surfaces. I've been eyeballing getting a Athlon64 system, but only the lack of good motherboard choices are holding me back right now.

I'd keep waiting and see if the nF3 250 or a performance SiS 755 comes soon. THis thing is fast and stable up to 230fsb but it's no go after that which points to no AGP/PCI lock. Also, I've seen there was a problem with SATA raid not working *I haven't tried it* that SOYO just fixed so buying one of the boards on the shelf now might mean it'd have to be RMA'd just to get it working.

On the bright side, the HDD performance, and overall system speed is very fast. The black PCB looks good, the 9in1 card reader is very well designed and the cable easy to use, the S/PDIF module is another easily installed and well designed unit, and having the ability to use the IDE raid for extra HDD's is nice too. The fact that it's a true AMD chipset, rebadged or not, was another thing I like. The capacitors are too close to the socket for the CoolerMaster and stock cooler, but the Venus 12 was cake although the lever just barely cleared the caps to get in the fully locked position. I'm gonna keep it because it grows on me more everyday and the bios flash straightened out the quirks I was experiencing. HTH

 

[Duvie]

Ofcourse you are going to keep it...I need you to do a review with 64bit shortly and we could have a very good comparison...Plus you are about the only one that has done most of the apps I have tested on this machine so I see some comparisons to mine....


i have a review waiting to be put on the board but I didn't know doing it in word and then saving it as a webpage was such a hassle...I may to link each of the picture or charts separately...

Will see I hope it will be out this evening....

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Good deal Duvie, looking forward to seeing how that clockspeed and HT impact things :beer:

 

[Jhatfie]

Thanks for the feedback DAPUNISHER. I think I can hold out for a little while longer to see what the nforce3 250's can do. I also hear that Asus has a SIS 755 based board due out sometime soon not to mention the possible VIA "Pro" chipset that may or may not have a AGP/PCI lock due out sometime during the same timeframe. I'm hoping to do some good OC'ing. I have a Whitewater block just waiting to go to work. D-tek sez' that their Athlon64 tops should be ready any time now.....

 

[DAPUNISHER]

No problem Jhatfie, definitely post up some overclocking results when you have them.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Nice work, but you are crippling the a64 with cas2.5

wrong it would appear. The timings don't seem to have much of an impact on A64 so I'll be sticking with my good old reliable cheapo ram

 

[pelikan]

Thanks for all the benchmarks. UT2003 looks real strong. And I appreciate your description of the feel of the A64 and its performance in Halo.
If you want more than 230 you could get a pci card that will keep your hdd at stock. Your nvidia card can probably handle being pushed a bit further out of spec.
I've read from users who have tested different ram that ras to cas is where the performance is and that it's quite significant. Tom may have been crippling the A64 in order to pimp for intel.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: pelikan
Thanks for all the benchmarks. UT2003 looks real strong. And I appreciate your description of the feel of the A64 and its performance in Halo.
If you want more than 230 you could get a pci card that will keep your hdd at stock. Your nvidia card can probably handle being pushed a bit further out of spec.
I've read from users who have tested different ram that ras to cas is where the performance is and that it's quite significant. Tom may have been crippling the A64 in order to pimp for intel.

Well we saw that one coming!!!!


Maybe you should just get some to run it yourself, Dapunisher.....You ave a nice setup and some good test to see first hand....