A8-6410? Heads up: it's Beema, not Richland

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bhvm

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that's great pricing. the Indian prices are still much higher. about 600 usd for beema. (machine I brought )thanks to stupid taxes and duties. still it's a bargain because i5s start above 800 anyways.
 

Abwx

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Are you certain the battery life is better with the Beema? That celeron only has a TDP of 7.5W and "SDP" of 4.5W

Dont pay attention to SDP, the S say scenario and not sure that yours is the same as the one envisioned by Intel as you could have quite different tasks than the ones they used to estimate their SDP.

As for the TDP it can sound good but if the CPU is not that fast for said tasks it will be used at high CPU utilisation, read close to its max TDP.

On the CPU front the two offerings you posted have same turbo frequency, the 6410 will be somewhere 20-30% faster depending of the usages, as for the GPU that s simply not comparable.
 

bhvm

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Wow, how is that $70 more expensive now? You'd think prices would go down.

Aren't there any decent Beema laptops with a decent screen and speakers for under $400? How do manufacturers make dirt cheap tablets with nice hardware but crappy laptops



Are you certain the battery life is better with the Beema? That celeron only has a TDP of 7.5W and "SDP" of 4.5W



don't bother with tdp. if you scroll above, I have posted power consumption figures and the whole damm Laptop runs on 6-7w with amd a8.

a8s can't be compared to ceelrons, celerons are more like a4 or something.

a8 is a proper quad core chip while your celeron is dual core. totally different animals.
 

GxCoud

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Does anyone know how to set the AMD A8 - 6410 with R5 graphics (R5 6410) into gaming mode? I am playing lol in mid settings and I am getting drops of 47 to 15-20 fps. Also, can anyone guide me on getting this laptop on high performance? Thanks!
 

bhvm

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Does anyone know how to set the AMD A8 - 6410 with R5 graphics (R5 6410) into gaming mode? I am playing lol in mid settings and I am getting drops of 47 to 15-20 fps. Also, can anyone guide me on getting this laptop on high performance? Thanks!

which Laptop you have? what games you're playing?
does your Laptop have dedicated card as well?

try going to battery icon and click 'high performance'
 

hardy83

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I just ordered the HP Pavilion x360 - 13z Touch (G3S52AV) with this processor in it. This seemed the most powerful tablet style I could find with Windows.

Does anyone know if it's overclockable or not? I have a PNY 240GB SSD lying around I may install in it. Is RAM upgradable in this thing? Can the CPU be upgraded either?

Does the keyboard get disabled when flipped in tablet mode? It seems like it would have to be or you'd be accidentally hitting keys.

Is this going to beat the HD 4400 in graphics performance? I was going to get the i5-4210U, but assumed the AMD graphics were superior, but from what I've been reading this may be wrong.

This is mostly for office type work, but I will also be playing a lot of my 3D-games on it. Civilization 5, Company of Heroes, Simcity 2013, Galactic Civilization, Beyond Earth, and others.

Is there a more powerful tablet type I can get with better graphics performance?

Thanks for any help.
-=Mark=-

I own this laptop for the same reasons you got it. It's the best hybrid for the price.

No you can't overclock it. HP is dumb and locks virtually everything in the BIOS. You can't even give the IGP more RAM.

Yes the RAM (2 slots) is upgradable, but in another genius decision, you literally have to take the whole laptop apart to get to the ram slots.
You take all the screw out, remove the keyboard, remove the fan and battery out, then have to take out the motherboard (unhook the speakers, screen, wifi etc and pull it out of the case) to get to the RAM underneath.
The HDD is easy to access (I did put an SSD (Samsung EVO 250GB) in there. I'm so sick of 5400 HDDs). As well as the fan which is nice for cleaning.

Yes the keyboard disables when it's flipped in tablet mode. Though I have had it bugged out once and stay enabled, I just have to flip it back to laptop, then back to tablet.

I don't know if it beats a 4400, but to get a hybrid with a 4400, it's going to cost 1000+.
I know the screen on this HP hybrid is not that good but, to get any better, you're going into the 1000+ range, with the best hybrid, the Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro being $1300+.
I got this hybrid for $700 CAD after tax. It already had 8GB of RAM. (Canadian prices are a rip off, you can probably get it far cheaper in the US)

I don't know if you can play those games, but I was able to play Skyrim with some medium settings on at a decent frame rate even with the HD texture pack installed.
MMOs like Rift and Defiance struggled though, and Diablo 3 ran OKAY, but not great. Though I know MMOs run bad because they are CPU hungry more than GPU.
I was able to play Puzzle Agent smoothly though! lol

I however, have a question. I read on this board that this APU is dual channel. I got this HP Hybrid with 8GB, but soon found they used a single 8GB chip rather than 4GB x 2 putting the RAM in single channel.
My question, is if this APU really is dual channel. Would it be worth getting another 8GB chip to get my ram to put it dual channel to improve the performance?
Can computer companies like HP limit the RAM in the bios to be single channel?
 

bhvm

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I own this laptop
I however, have a question. I read on this board that this APU is dual channel. I got this HP Hybrid with 8GB, but soon found they used a single 8GB chip rather than 4GB x 2 putting the RAM in single cha
My question, is if this APU really is dual channel. Would it be worth getting another 8GB chip to get my ram to put it dual channel to improve the performance?
Can computer companies like HP limit the RAM in the bios to be single channel?
amd a8 6410 based on BEEMA 15w (you called call it ULV in Intel terms is single channel apu.
the kaveri ones are dual channel.
 

GxCoud

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Hi! I have a Toshiba Satellite C55D-b5212. It has AMD A8-6410 APU with 4gb memory and R5 graphics. I think it has the same one as yours, guys. Also, is the GPU R5 M230? or just a plain R5 6410? I heard that the GPU of APUs are usually named after the APU itself, so I'm a bit confused. Thanks!

Also, if any of you owns this Toshiba laptop, is it possible to increase the RAM? ))
 
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bhvm

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Hi! I have a Toshiba Satellite C55D-b5212. It has AMD A8-6410 APU with 4gb memory and R5 graphics. I think it has the same one as yours, guys. Also, is the GPU R5 M230? or just a plain R5 6410? I heard that the GPU of APUs are usually named after the APU itself, so I'm a bit confused. Thanks!

Also, if any of you owns this Toshiba laptop, is it possible to increase the RAM? ))

I don't have Idea of your specific model, but-
a8 6410 has an onboard graphics called r5 6410. that's thankfully simple naming scheme than past where onboard graphics had different names.

r5 m230 is a weak dedicated graphics that performs close to dedicated 8570m. perhaps it's a rename of 8570m

you might be able to select one of the gpu depending on your required performance and Battery runtime.
 
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